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		<title>Wolrdviews Refuted- Enter Materialism</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a brief article, Dr. Al Mohler of Southern Baptist Seminary addresses the more prevalent worldview of the natural sciences, materialism: http://www.albertmohler.com/blog_read.php?id=1122 For a quick review, a worldview is a set of lenses which one looks through to understand the world around him.  It is a person&#8217;s understanding of how matter works, what is the nature of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=272&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a brief article, Dr. Al Mohler of Southern Baptist Seminary addresses the more prevalent worldview of the natural sciences, materialism:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/blog_read.php?id=1122">http://www.albertmohler.com/b</a><a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/blog_read.php?id=1122">log_read.</a><a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/blog_read.php?id=1122">p</a><a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/blog_read.php?id=1122">hp?id=1122</a><a href="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/c25c096497f1e3ffce0caaef_09062007_135744.jpg" title="c25c096497f1e3ffce0caaef_09062007_135744.jpg"></a></p>
<p>For a quick review, a worldview is a set of lenses which one looks through to understand the world around him.  It is a person&#8217;s understanding of how matter works, what is the nature of the supernatural, what is at the core of human existence, what happens after death, etc.</p>
<p>Materialism is the view that attempts to explain everything by purely natural phenomenons and does away with the spiritual- ie: man is just matter- salts and minerals- and will return to salts and minerals upon death.  This view shaped the policies of Soviet Russia, and has been addressed prayerfully from the Christian perspective in Richard Wurmbrand&#8217;s <em><a href="https://www.vombooks.com/qry/qe_store.taf?_function=detail&amp;_peid=479&amp;_id=A345142999&amp;_code=P&amp;_nc=ee8adadc7e95464161db7d6ca7cf458a">Tortured for Christ</a></em>. </p>
<p> <a href="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/c25c096497f1e3ffce0caaef_09062007_135744.jpg" title="c25c096497f1e3ffce0caaef_09062007_135744.jpg"><img src="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/c25c096497f1e3ffce0caaef_09062007_135744.thumbnail.jpg?w=510" alt="c25c096497f1e3ffce0caaef_09062007_135744.jpg" /></a></p>
<p>One powerful refutation of materialism comes in the book where a simple factory worker stands up against a lecturer stating that man is only salts and minerals and will return to such on death.  The worker asks to speak after the lecture.  Permission is granted and he stands up, throws his chair down and stares at it.  Then he walks up to the lecturer and strikes him in the face.  The lecturer becomes irate and demands his arrest.  When questioned about his actions, the worker explains, &#8220;When I threw the chair down, it did nothing, it was just matter.  When I struck you, you became angry.  Man is more than matter, we are spiritual beings!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>The Patient has the Problem</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two years ago I was performing my EMT clinicals.  One of the EMTs gave me a word I haven&#8217;t forgotten.  When we waited in the break area between calls, I skimmed a medical book and commented that the hardest part of the job for me would be to see the more grotesque injuries.  I&#8217;m ok [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=271&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two years ago I was performing my EMT clinicals.  One of the EMTs gave me a word I haven&#8217;t forgotten.  When we waited in the break area between calls, I skimmed a medical book and commented that the hardest part of the job for me would be to see the more grotesque injuries.  I&#8217;m ok seeing my own blood, but wince at someone else&#8217;s injuries- avulsions, contusions, open fractures, lacerations, etc.  The EMT answered me, but I didn&#8217;t think he&#8217;d heard.  He said, &#8220;The patient is the one with the problem.&#8221; </p>
<p>The pateint has the trauma.  You treat them.  You are not the one with the overdose or trauma at the end of the day.  It is someone else.</p>
<p>The praticality comes when applying this to theology.  As I&#8217;ve put my ear to the culture and listened to doctrines, more influenced by the spirit of the age than the Spirit of Christ, I&#8217;ve come away feeling the maladies.  Denial of Hell, diplomacy on the virgin birth, denial on the penal substitutionary atonement, mitigation sin, mitigation of the deity of Christ, etc.  I&#8217;ve come away feeling queasy myself.  Then I remembered, at the end of the day, the patient has the problem.  I remembered, you don&#8217;t defend a lion, you turn it loose; you loose the cure for all maladies of theological traumas, the Word of God, and let it speak itself.  God&#8217;s breath cuts and pierces and treats these maladies better than any surgeon&#8217;s scalpel.  I don&#8217;t need to address every scoffer that comes around, but I need to be ready to turn the scalpel loose on those who would here and be quickened under its power.</p>
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		<title>The Curse is Cast</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A quick glance at the news today brought this headline to sight (warning- offensive content).  &#8220;Call-Girl Centerfold? Penthouse magazine wants woman at center of Eliot Spitzer call-girl scandal&#8221; Shameless exhibition is too trite of a phrase to describe this situation, but nothing more fitting is coming to mind.  It&#8217;s sad that the sin that will change [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=270&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="left">A quick glance at the news today brought this headline to sight (<strong>warning- </strong>offensive content). </p>
<p>&#8220;<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337662,00.html">Call-Girl Centerfold?</a> Penthouse magazine wants woman at center of Eliot Spitzer call-girl scandal&#8221;</p>
<p>Shameless exhibition is too trite of a phrase to describe this situation, but nothing more fitting is coming to mind.  It&#8217;s sad that the sin that will change the life of three daughters and a wife is now being exalted and spread, to dissolve more marriages and marr more lives.  What good came from it the first time?  Why is it still being spread?  Paul&#8217;s answer two thousand years ago is timely.  We have forgotten God and been given over to his gifts, which we have in turn exalted and made our Gods.  Like the plague that fell on Israelite exiles who were given meat until they could eat no more because of their complaining, we are in a land diseased with its lusting.  It&#8217;s no longer secret, it&#8217;s no longer shameful.  Listen to Paul&#8217;s words:</p>
<p align="center"><em>Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.</em></p>
<p align="center">Romans 1:24-25</p>
<p align="left">Paul&#8217;s solution to our problem:</p>
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<div align="left"> <em>if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved</em> (Rom 10:9-10).</div>
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<div align="left"><em>So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord!</em> (Rom 10:21-25a). </div>
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		<title>Good Analysis, Poor Recommendation</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An article in the local paper caught my attention this morning.  According to a federal study, 1/4 teen girls between 14-19 has contracted a sexually transmitted disease (STD).    The article does a good job explaining the problem and crunching the numbers.  But the recommendation by &#8220;U.S. health officials&#8221; is more telling.  The recommendation?   &#8221;Better screening, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=268&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An <a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/T/TEEN_STDS?SITE=INLAF&amp;SECTION=HEALTH&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT">article</a> in the local paper caught my attention this morning.  According to a federal study, 1/4 teen girls between 14-19 has contracted a sexually transmitted disease (STD).    The article does a good job explaining the problem and crunching the numbers.  But the recommendation by &#8220;U.S. health officials&#8221; is more telling.  The recommendation?   &#8221;Better screening, vaccination and prevention.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sex has become an area of life like life itself.  Rather than asking why it is there, we jump in and indulge.  Science asks some questions, but is too satisfied with the superficial answers and misses the question. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear that human suffering is bad.  It&#8217;s clear that STDs are a form of suffering and are bad for us.  Like science&#8217;s bent on evolution, it observes and takes note of species mutations, then sidesteps the profound inquiry of the child, &#8220;What came first, the chicken or the egg?&#8221;  Science traces a line back in time past the chicken, past the egg, and then fading into obscurity as time and matter and chance simmer into primordial goop.  It misses again on why human languages differ, sidestepping the basics of Babel and appealing to ape dialectics.</p>
<p align="center"><a href="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/chicken-egg.jpg" title="chicken-egg.jpg"><img src="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/chicken-egg.thumbnail.jpg?w=510" alt="chicken-egg.jpg" /></a> </p>
<p>But maybe in the end STDs aren&#8217;t a result of inadequate screening or vaccination.  Maybe if we taught and saw and felt that long ago we turned away from God to create our lives and ended up under his curse, we might get further than if we put a screening facility in every high school and vaccinated every child.  Maybe we&#8217;d identify the result of depression and disease and a thousand other anomalies resulting from plundering the prize of sex from the trophy house of marriage to the squalor of the slums.  Maybe, just maybe, if we taught and ackowledged that sex outside of marriage should be opposed as the desire to murder and rape and steal, we might find a backbone to fight it and reduce the devestations of STDs and abortions.  There is to sex the creative force that tells us we were ourselves created and are ourselves accountable for our creating.  And Jesus is the creator of us and sex and the one to heal and clean us from any sexual sin, if only we would acknowledge to him our sin and struggles- that we can never vaccinate or screen or prevent enough- having made such a pollution of his gifts, and ask for him to teach us who he is and who we are and to follow his prescribed limits for his gifts. </p>
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		<title>He Always Trusted</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;All who see me mock me; they make mouths at me; they wag their heads; &#8216;he trusts in the LORD; let him deliver him; let him rescue him, for he delights in him!&#8217; &#8220;Yet you are he who took me from the womb; you made me trust you at my mother&#8217;s breasts,&#8221;  (Ps 22:7-9). As [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=267&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All who see me mock me; they make mouths at me; they wag their heads; <em>&#8216;he trusts in the LORD; let him deliver him; let him rescue him, for he delights in him!&#8217;</em></p>
<p>&#8220;Yet you are he who took me from the womb; you made me trust you at my mother&#8217;s breasts,&#8221;  (Ps 22:7-9).</p>
<p>As Easter nears, remember that Jesus <em>always</em> trusted God during the incarnation.  From his mother&#8217;s womb, from his mother&#8217;s breasts.   And remember, &#8217;no deceit was found in his mouth&#8217;&#8230; ever. </p>
<p>Jesus&#8217;s trusting of God allowed God&#8217;s will to be accomplished through his life.  God&#8217;s will was his death. </p>
<p>Sometimes if circumstances seem unjust, unfair, overwhelming- not as a cause of disobedience but a result of obedience - it may be God&#8217;s hand moving to bloom the fruit of fruition. </p>
<p>William Cowper, a sickly saint acquainted with a suicidal darkness noted on the mysterious movements of God, &#8221;His purposes will ripen fast, unfolding every hour.  The bud may have a bitter taste, but sweet will be the flower.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t lose hope of the divine flower of God bringing his work to completion in your life.</p>
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		<title>Complementarian Quotes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are some snippets that have helped me see the value and state of gender roles and created differences between men and women.  Enjoy: &#160; The state of men in many places: In Seattle, the young men are, generally, pathetic. They are unlikely to go to church, get married, have children, or do much of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=266&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Here are some snippets that have helped me see the value and state of gender roles and created differences between men and women. </font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Enjoy:</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p><b><font face="Times New Roman">The state of men in many places:</font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"><em>In Seattle, the young men are, generally, pathetic. They are unlikely to go to church, get married, have children, or do much of anything else that smacks of being responsible. But they are known to be highly skilled at smoking pot, masturbating, playing video games, playing air guitar, free-loading, and having sex with their significant others&#8230; If there is any hope for a kingdom culture to be built in Seattle, getting the young men to undergo a complete cranial-rectal extraction is priority number one.</em></font><a name="_ftnref1" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn1"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[1]</span></span></span></span></a></p>
<p><b><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></b><b><font face="Times New Roman">Leadership</font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0 1in;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">P.T. Forsyth says that hierarchy- the placing of one above another-not was meant not for privilege, prerogative, favoritism, or dominion, but for leadership.<span>  </span>And leadership means service, sacrifice, help, uplifting, redemption, and a cross.<span>  </span>Leadership is not meant to exploit, but to lift; not to exterminate, but to rescue; not to rend, but redeem; not to devour, but to carry; not for primacy, but for priority.<span>  </span>It means, in the last analysis, obedience, service, even death, for the sake of others.</font><a name="_ftnref2" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn2"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[2]</span></span></span></span></a></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><span><font face="Times New Roman">            </font></span></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><b><font face="Times New Roman">Can women still influence men for Christ in areas of deep passion and conviction?</font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0 1in;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">It is obvious that we cannot and should not prohibit women from influencing men.<span>  </span>For example, prayer is certainly a God-appointed means women should use to get men to where God wants them to be.<span>  </span>Praying women exert far more power in this world than all political leaders put together.<span>  </span>This kind of powerful influence is compounded immensely when one considers the degree to which the world is shaped and guided by the effects of how men and women are formed by their mothers.<span>  </span>This influence is perhaps more effective than all the leadership of men put together</font><a name="_ftnref3" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn3"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[3]</span></span></span></span></a></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p>
<p style="margin:0 1in;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Women, then, have engaged in significant ministries, even if those ministries were unofficial.<span>  </span>One thinks of Abigail in I Samuel 25.<span>  </span>Abigail was not a prophetess and had no other official ministry that we know of.<span>  </span>Nevertheless, her humble and gentle advice to David persuaded him not to kill Nabal.<span>  </span>How many unrecorded events there must be of women persuading men, humbly and gently, to pursue a more righteous course!<span>  </span>What a good model this story is for traditionalists who think being a leader means they must always know the truth and that their opinion is always right.<span>  </span>David was certainly the leader in this account, but his humility is evident in that he listened to Abigail and was persuaded.<span>  </span>For women, Abigail is a model of gentle and humble persuasion.<span>  </span>There was no stridency or imperiousness about her manner.<span>  </span>She was winsome, yet bold.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0 1in;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"><span>            </span>The unofficial ministries of women, therefore, are of great importance, and some men, by desiring leadership for its status and power as the Gentiles do (Mark 10:42ff.), have contributed to the idea that these ministries are insignificant.<span>  </span>Such a secular concept of ministry has done great damage in Christ’s church.</font><a name="_ftnref4" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn4"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[4]</span></span></span></span></a></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">- pg 210</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p>
<p style="margin:0 1in 0 0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">There are so many ministries today in which a woman can advance the cause of Christ and righteousness!<span>  </span>I will list a few here so that one can get some idea of the wide scope available: engaging in personal witnessing and joining campus organizations committed to spreading the gospel, ministering to the sick and elderly, fighting against abortion, fighting against pornography, helping with literacy, writing to government leaders to support the cause of righteousness, helping with disabled, aiding the poor, ministering in prisons, counseling and praying with the troubled and confused, supporting missionaries and the church financially, visiting newcomers to the church, extending hospitality to the lonely, using artistic gifts by ministering in music, the visual arts, drama, and theater, helping in youth ministry, etc.</font><a name="_ftnref5" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn5"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[5]</span></span></span></span></a></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn1" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref1"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[1]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Mark Driscoll, Radical Reformission</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn2" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref2"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[2]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Elisabeth Elliot.<span>  </span>The Mark of a Man.<span>  </span>pg 134.</font></p>
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<div><a name="_ftn3" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref3"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[3]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2"><font face="Times New Roman"> Pg 61, John Piper.<span>  </span><i>What is the Difference?<span>  </span>Manhood and Womanhood Defined According to the Bible</i></font></font></div>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn4" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref4"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[4]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Thomas Schreiner.<span>  </span>Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood.<span>  </span>ed. John Piper and Wayne Grudem.<span>  </span>Pg 210</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><a name="_ftn5" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref5"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[5]</span></span></span></span></a><font face="Times New Roman"> Thomas Schreiner.<span>  </span>Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood.<span>  </span>ed. John Piper and Wayne Grudem.<span>  </span>Pg 223</font></p>
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		<title>The Dr.&#8217;s Prescription</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I stumbled upon this remedy for treating depression a couple years ago from &#8220;The Dr.&#8221; (Martyn Lloyd-Jones), and it has done my soul well.  May it do the same for you: Have you realized that most of your unhappiness in life is due to the fact thyat you are listening to yourself instead of talking [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=265&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stumbled upon this remedy for treating depression a couple years ago from &#8220;The Dr.&#8221; (Martyn Lloyd-Jones), and it has done my soul well.  May it do the same for you:</p>
<p><em>Have you realized that most of your unhappiness in life is due to the fact thyat you are listening to yourself instead of talking to yourself?  Take those thoughts that come to you the moment you wake up in the morning.  You have not originated them but they are talking to you, they bring back the problems of yesterday, etc.  Somebody is talking.  Who is talking to you?  Your self is talking to you.  Now this man&#8217;s treatment [in Psalm 42] was this: instead of allowing this self to talk to him, he starts talking to himself.  &#8220;Why art thou cast down, O my soul?&#8221; he asks.  His soul has been depressing him, crushing him.  So he stands up and says: &#8220;Self, listen for a moment, I will speak to you.&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>Invitation to the Classics- The Holy War</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The city of Mansoul is visited by Diabolus (Satan) and Incredulous (Unbelief) in this classic.  With Innocence and Resistance destroyed by the enemies of Mansoul, the city soon is taken captive through the Eye Gate and Ear Gate. Lord Will be Will takes charge as Reason and Understanding are deposed and imprisoned. This is the stage in [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=264&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p align="left">The city of Mansoul is visited by Diabolus (Satan) and Incredulous (Unbelief) in this classic.  With Innocence and Resistance destroyed by the enemies of Mansoul, the city soon is taken captive through the Eye Gate and Ear Gate.</p>
<p align="left">Lord Will be Will takes charge as Reason and Understanding are deposed and imprisoned.</p>
<p align="left">This is the stage in John Bunyan&#8217;s <em>Holy War.</em>  An allegory depicting the story of stories- the creation of man, his exile from Eden, and God&#8217;s ensuing, pursuing love to deliver him from the corruption of his rebellion even as evil is leavened throgh the flesh of man.  With sobering scences and comical characters- the diabolianians, once identified within the city, crucified atop the city gates in full view of Diabolus in the vein of Colossians 3 &#8220;mortify your members&#8221; (KJV) &#8221;put to death whatever is earthly inside of you&#8221; or of Mr. Godly Fear and Mr. Carnal Delight- it can be explained to children and doubles as a primer on spiritual warfare. </p>
<p align="left">The story being told in terms like this is one of the best ways to awaken a knowledge to the truth and a sense of urgency.  As Bunyan commented elsewhere,<em> Praying in the Spirit,</em> one of the best ways to teach children [or anyone] to pray isn&#8217;t giving them some creed or scripted prayer, but to tell them, &#8220;of damnation and of salvation&#8230; of how to avoid the one and enjoy the other&#8230;&#8221;  This manner of teaching, he says, will be the quickest way to elicit hearty groans flowing from their hearts and chests, to teach them to <em>pray in the Spirit, </em>and to deliver them from the hypocrisy of those who &#8220;honor God with their lips while their hearts are far from him.&#8221; </p>
<p align="left">Before picking up the latest &#8220;bestseller&#8221; think about what are some of the best sayers of the truth.  Will that book on the New York Time&#8217;s list persist as a wealth of wisdom and warning in 100 years, or will it crumble away within a generation awaiting the next fad?  Take a step back in time and see that as we hit the big themes, &#8220;there is nothing new under the sun.&#8221; </p>
<p align="left">When it comes time to read, Joel R. Beeke says in <em>Feed My Sheep</em>, ask yourself whether or not that book will increase your love for God, help you to conquer sin, or if your time could be better spent reading another book.  For me, this book has been instrumental in appreciating the spiritual war in the heavenlies all around-seeing the enemy of soul&#8217;s tempting and entreating entrance at each of the five sesnes-, in awakening an urgency to the battle, equipping with a practicality against it, and in sensing the love and joy of God for his people.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where we left off last&#8230; Do complementarians hate women?  Are they just modern mysogynysts? Find out now!  &#160; The Egalitarian view seeks the inclusion of women in all areas of ministry based on the following observations from Scripture: 1) Calling roles or distinctions into question based on gender is wrong and like doing so based [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=259&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Where we left off last&#8230; Do complementarians hate women?  Are they just modern mysogynysts?</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Find out now!</font> </p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">The Egalitarian view seeks the inclusion of women in all areas of ministry based on the following observations from Scripture: </font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">1) Calling roles or distinctions into question based on gender is wrong and like doing so based on ethnicity (Jew or Greek) or social status (slave or free)</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Galatians 3:28- No distinctions in Christ between men and women</font></li>
</ul>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">2) A woman apostle is acknowledged by Paul</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Rom 16:7- Junia, <i>the latino disciple</i></font></li>
</ul>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">3) Women play a prophetic role in the Old Testament (ex: Deborah, Miriam, etc.), and are foretold to prophesy after the Ascension (Acts 2:17-18).</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">4) Women are referred to as “fellow-workers” with Paul, the same way Timothy, Titus, and other male disciples.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">5) Women serve in the office of deacon in the New Testament (Rom 16:1)</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">The complementaria argument views men and women as being designed to fit together not only biologically in marriage, but also emotionally and in various roles.:</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Humans are created male and female as nature is night and day, sea and land.<span>  </span></font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Both are: </font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Equally valuable</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Equally fallen</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Equally needing of a savior</font></li>
</ul>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Men are designed to initiate and lead</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Women are designed to nurture, receive, and affirm</font></p>
<p><b><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></b><b><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></b><b><font face="Times New Roman">Questions for Discussion:</font></b></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Is the egalitarian interpretation of Galatians 3:28 the best one?</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">What else is suggested by the immediate context of Galatians 3:28?</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">How do these observations relate to Paul’s instruction for church governance? </font></li>
</ul>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">On the other side:</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Do complementarians realize we are in the 21<sup>st</sup> century?</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Doesn’t the complementarian view just continue to exploit, demean, and repress women?</font></li>
</ul>
<p><b><font face="Times New Roman">Brief Response to points 1-5 of Egalitarian position</font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">1) Context in Gal 3 is not addressing / defining what it means to be a man or woman.<span>  </span>This does not, for example, mean that no distinction should be made between men and women, say in marriage (ie: “No longer male no female” does not apply to marriage covenant and does not throw out Paul’s advice to husbands and wives in Eph 5, it does not mean since there is no longer male nor female, that marriage can now apply to a man and a man or a woman and a woman).</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Elsewhere (Titus 2, I Timothy 2, etc.) Paul lays out clear distinctions for structure of church.<span>  </span></font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Gal 3:28 in context is referring to equal fallenness, need of savior, and value in God’s eyes of Jews, Gentiles, slaves, masters, men and women.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">This does not support egalitarian position.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">2) Woman apostle can have several different translations.<span>  </span>Jesus had no woman apostle.<span>  </span>Was his failure to due to cultural / traditional structure and pressure?<span>  </span>If so, why did he heal on a Sabbath, not have his disciples observe washing before eating, feed “crumbs” to a Gentile, etc.?<span>  </span>Was having a woman disciple too controversial for him?<span>  </span><br />
One phrase that is obscure, is not enough to base the egalitarian position on.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">3) Women did play role of prophet and will continue to prophesy.<span>  </span>However, they never were priests or elders in the Old Testament and are forbidden from teaching / usurping power from men in I Timothy 2:12.<span>  </span>It’s unlikely that Paul’s argument against women teaching over men in I Tim 2:12 is only cultural, because he follows it up by appealing to the order in Creation (I Timothy 2:13-14).</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">4) Women are fellow workers and should be treated as such.<span>  </span>This does not mean each worker has the same role.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">5) Women may have been deacons, and were definitely instructed to teach each other and younger women in the faith (Titus 2)</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman">Spiritual gifts: Spiritual gifts are given generously throughout the church (I Cor 12-14), but they are still regulated.<span>  </span>Women are still endowed with spiritual gift of teaching, but that should come in proper context, just as speaking in tongues has a certain context where, when it’s not obeyed, is not building up Christ’s body (I Cor 14:6-25).</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman">Many of the above points were researched and clarified, much more exhaustively by Tom Schreiner in <em>Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood</em>, edited by John Piper and Wayne Grudem.</font></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two different schools of thought on how men and women should relate to each other and what their responsibilities are in the church.  1) Egalitarian- There should be no gender distinction in roles of men and women in the function or leadership of the church, to include ordination of women, or in society in general; [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=260&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="left" style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Two different schools of thought on how men and women should relate to each other and what their responsibilities are in the church.<span>  </span></font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"><strong>1) Egalitarian-</strong> There should be no gender distinction in roles of men and women in the function or leadership of the church, to include ordination of women, or in society in general; in marriage the wife and husband not only are created equal as female and male, but there is no biblically-prescribed hierarchy giving the husband any authority over the wife. </font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"><strong>2) Complementarian-</strong> God has created men and women equal in their essential dignity and human personhood, but different and complementary in function with male headship in the home and in the Church.&#8221;  Men are expected to take spiritual responsibility, often called &#8220;headship,&#8221; for leadership in the home and in the church. Women are restricted from holding the teaching office of the church and from spiritual leadership in the home and in marriage. </font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">I am a complementarian.<span>  </span>I believe that is what the Bible teaches.<span>  </span>I am ok with people disagreeing with me.<span>  </span>I don’t see its teaching as a salvation issue, but I do see it as an issue of healthy doctrine and I would divide from a church with a woman pastor.</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p>
<p align="center" style="text-align:center;margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:16pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">Egalitarian Approach</font></span></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Men and women are each created with authority over nature, Men and women are created inherently equal in their capacities to serve and lead, and negating an office of authority based on gender parallels the horrors of owning slaves and the horrors of racism.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Here are some points and Scriptures egalitarians frame their theology on:</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">1) Calling roles or distinctions into question based on gender is wrong and like doing so based on ethnicity (Jew or Greek) or social status (slave or free)</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Galatians 3:28- No distinctions in Christ between men and women</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Times New Roman">2) A woman is acknowledged by Paul as an apostle</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Rom 16:27- Apostleship given to a woman</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Times New Roman">3) Women play a prophetic role throughout the Bible</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Exod 15:20-21- Miriam is a prophetess and led the assembly of women in song</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">II Kings 22:14-20- Huldah is a prophetess and is consulted by messengers of Josiah</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Judges 4:4-5- Deborah was a prophetess and a judge over men</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Luke 2:36-38- Anna served as a prophetess and spoke to the people of the savior who would redeem Jerusalem</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Acts 2:17-18; Joel 2:28-32- God’s spirit would cause both men and women to prophesy, both men <b>and women</b> to dream dreams</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Times New Roman">4) Women are referred to as “fellow-workers” with Paul</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Romans 16:3- Priscilla referred to a fellow worker in Christ.<span>  </span>The same term is used for Timothy (Romans 16:21), Apollos (I Corinthians 2:9), Titus (II Corinthians 8:23), etc.</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Times New Roman">5) Women serve in the office of deacon in the New Testament</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">I Timothy 3:11 </font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Romans 16:1- Phoebe is referred to as a deacon</font></li>
</ul>
<p><b><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></b><b><font face="Times New Roman">Summary:</font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">To summarize the egalitarian position, positions of authority are now obliterated based on gender as are racial and social positions (Galatians 3:28) in Christ.<span>  </span>Women serve throughout Scripture as prophetesses, are referred to as fellow-workers, serve as deacons in the church, and one was also noted as an apostle.<span>  </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><b><font face="Times New Roman">NEXT TIME: </font></b></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Is the egalitarian interpretation Galatians 3:28 the best one?</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">What else is suggested by the immediate context of Galatians 3:28?</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">How do these observations relate to Paul’s instruction for church governance? </font></li>
</ul>
<p><b><span style="font-size:16pt;"><font face="Times New Roman"></font></span></b><b><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:16pt;">Complementarian Approach</span></font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Complementarian view starts by looking at created structures in the beginning of Genesis and how they <i>fit together</i> or <i>complement each other</i>:</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Night and day (Gen 1:5)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Sea and sky (Gen 1:6)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Dry land and sea (Gen 1:10)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Sun and stars (Gen 1:16)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Day 6- Men and women (Gen 1:27)</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Times New Roman">Other ideas of <i>complements </i>are:</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Peanut butter and jelly</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Hot fudge brownie and ice cream</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Bert and Ernie</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><b><font face="Times New Roman">Gen 2- <i>God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve</i></font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Gen 2:20- There was not a suitable helper fit for Adam.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Gen 2:18- God said he would make a helper fit for Adam</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Woman comes <i>from </i>man.<span>  </span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Woman <i>fits</i> man</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Man is given responsibility in naming woman</font></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Question: Is the way woman <i>fits </i>man only biological?</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Question: What, if anything, does Adam’s naming of Eve represent?</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Times New Roman">Though both sinned, Adam is called out by God and is identified later in Scripture as the one in whom all sinned (he bears a <i>special </i>responsibility)</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Gen 3:9</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Rom 5:12-15</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><b><font face="Times New Roman">Gen 3- Complementary curses</font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Curses attack strengths of each character</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Gen 3:16- curse on woman- pain in childbearing, desire for husband&#8217;s rule power (manipulation), he shall rule over her, woman will desire to rule over her husband</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Gen 3:17- curse of man- Will work ground in pain, in sweat of face fighting weeds, thorns, etc.</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><b><font face="Times New Roman">Isaiah 3 Woman</font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Women in positions of authority over men is spoken of as being chaotic and an inversion of order</font></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Isaiah 3:12- Women ruling paralleled to infants in charge of the people</font></li>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><b><font face="Times New Roman">Authority and vows</font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Men bear responsibility for their vows before God while women’s vows can be negated by their husbands or fathers</font></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Numbers 30</font></li>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Times New Roman">Other issues to look at: Instructions for church governance (qualifications for elders / overseers, headship in marriage- Eph 5)</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><b><font face="Times New Roman">FOR NEXT POST: </font></b></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Do complementarians hate women? (No, next question)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">What are the implications of this view / How does this play out in everyday life?</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Is complementarianism really just modern misogyny?</font></li>
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">How are the roles, outlined in the egalitarian view for women of prophetess, apostle, deacon assimilated into the complementarian view?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">Much of the analysis of this is taken from Tom Schriener in <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"><em>Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood</em>.<span>  </span>ed. John Piper and Wayne Grudem.<span>  Thanks for the great work and analysis by the men and women in that book.</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>Clearing the Conscience</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do everything to the glory of God,&#8221; (I Cor 10:31). At a recent meeting, I saw a mock sketch of the church budget: 30% building fund 20% facilities maintenance 25% missions and community outreach 25% staff salaries 20% of every offering dollar going to repalce light bulbs and clean toilets [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=258&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do everything to the glory of God,&#8221; (I Cor 10:31).</p>
<p>At a recent meeting, I saw a mock sketch of the church budget:</p>
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<div>30% building fund</div>
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<div>20% facilities maintenance</div>
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<div>25% missions and community outreach</div>
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<div>25% staff salaries</div>
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<p>20% of every offering dollar going to repalce light bulbs and clean toilets and take out garbage?  Could we just run this off of volunteers? </p>
<p>&#8220;Well no,&#8221; the pastor said, &#8220;in my experience that hasn&#8217;t worked.&#8221;</p>
<p>For the gospel to be preached and taught on a regular basis, order and structure is a really valuable thing.  To have gas, electric, phones puts the church in touch with the community and a place for the community to come in and fellowship.</p>
<p>Then it hit me.  Not all of my life is prayer or small groups or Sunday sermons or teaching Bible lessons.  Those are good things, but there are bills to be paid, a house to be maintained, etc.  In everything of life, do it to the glory of God.  It cleared my conscience of the guilt of not spending more time in the Bible when I need to fix a broken appliance or do laundry or do some little things, but those are part of the ~20% of my budget to maintain my life.  Aside from that, there&#8217;s the physical body to be a steward of as &#8220;You are not your own, you were bought for a price,&#8221; and &#8220;Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit?&#8221; </p>
<p>So though I&#8217;m a little slow, I&#8217;m learning and having my conscience cleared to be ok doing some of the more mundane things in life.</p>
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		<title>Reflections on Communion</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple years ago, in the book Feed My Sheep, I came across the statement, &#8220;You don&#8217;t get a better Christ in Communion, but sometimes you get Christ better.&#8221; Tonight at Communion as I was thinking about Jesus and his disciples, I thought soberly about God&#8217;s forgiveness.   Jesus knew what Peter would do, he knew [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=257&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple years ago, in the book Feed My Sheep, I came across the statement, &#8220;You don&#8217;t get a better Christ in Communion, but sometimes you get Christ better.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tonight at Communion as I was thinking about Jesus and his disciples, I thought soberly about God&#8217;s forgiveness.   Jesus knew what Peter would do, he knew of his coming denial, he knew of the abandonment of the rest, the betrayal by Judas, but he still ate with them. </p>
<p>A couple weeks ago, my pastor asked a question for reflection, &#8220;Would God love me if he really knew me?&#8221;</p>
<p>Jesus really knew Peter.  Peter was about to curse and deny him.  But Jesus really loved Peter.  Jesus really loved his disciples.  Jesus really loves his disciples. </p>
<p>Looking at this, can anything, as Paul asked, separate us from the love of God, the past or present, angels or demons, rulers, authorities or anything else in creation?</p>
<p>Run to God with your denial and fear and shame.</p>
<p>He already knows. </p>
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		<title>Simon, Simon</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Simon, Simon, Satan has demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail.&#8221; (Luke 22:31-32a).  Perhaps in this act, by Peter being sifted like wheat, Jesus agreed to the terms of Satan, that the hypocrisy might be filtered from Peter&#8217;s life.  So, by the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=256&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Simon, Simon, Satan has demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail.&#8221; (Luke 22:31-32a). </p>
<p>Perhaps in this act, by Peter being sifted like wheat, Jesus agreed to the terms of Satan, that the hypocrisy might be filtered from Peter&#8217;s life.  So, by the pulverizing and filtering of this man did Jesus purify and use him, ground to a powdery consistency, to spread his kingdom.  So does he rid Paul of grounds for boasting by allowing a demon to torment him and tell the apostle, &#8220;my power is sufficient for you&#8230; my power is perfected in weakness.&#8221; </p>
<p>And so does He take us, with this, that, or another pride or boast, leavened through the life, and purify the heart.  Praying for our faith and holding us sure as the enemy assaults, in some hour of darkness, does he then pull out the leaven from the broken pile of dust that would not be extracted from the whole life.  So does brother James admonish and encourage disciples to &#8220;be joyful when facing trials of many kinds&#8221; and Paul encourage us that, &#8220;suffering ends in hope, filled with the love of God.&#8221;  And it says, &#8220;no discipline at the time seems pleasant, but later it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness,&#8221; because the purifying is humiliating and painful.  But later, when we have a more fair estimation of ourselves, do we thank God and enter into trials with, or at least learn to come from them in hindsight, with joy. </p>
<p>&#8220;Strike the shepherd and the sheep will be scattered,&#8221; Isaiah tells us.  Make it look like God is in a vice and can&#8217;t get escape, as Peter watching his master betrayed, and we are robbed of hope and curse and deny.  But God&#8217;s always was and always is the power and he knows what he is doing.  And his power, even in it&#8217;s foolishness, is wiser than the wisdom of men.  Follow him and let him do the sifting and disciplining, and trust him with what he is doing.  Amen</p>
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		<title>The Practice of the Presence of Doctrine, by Sir Lawrence</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over a hundred years ago I heard that Spurgeon said regarding the defense of Scripture, &#8220;You don&#8217;t defend a lion, you turn it loose!&#8221; You don&#8217;t defend the doctrines of Scripture, passed down from God through angels and miracles and his Son, to men, you turn them loose. The virgin birth is one of the clearest [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=255&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over a hundred years ago I heard that Spurgeon said regarding the defense of Scripture, &#8220;You don&#8217;t defend a lion, you turn it loose!&#8221;</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t defend the doctrines of Scripture, passed down from God through angels and miracles and his Son, to men, you turn them loose.</p>
<p>The virgin birth is one of the clearest teachings in Scripture.  Listen to the words of God:<br />
<em> </em></p>
<p><em>Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of the things that have been accomplished among us, just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word have delivered them to us, it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely for some time past, to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, that you may have certainty concerning the things you have been taught.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8230;In the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, <strong>to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph</strong>, of the house of David. And the virgin’s name was Mary. And he came to her and said, &#8220;Greetings, O favored one, the Lord is with you!&#8221; But she was greatly troubled at the saying, and tried to discern what sort of greeting this might be. And the angel said to her, &#8220;<strong>Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son,</strong> and you shall call his name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end.&#8221; </em></p>
<p><em> And Mary said to the angel, <strong>&#8220;How will this be, since I am a virgin?&#8221;</strong></em></p>
<p><em> And the angel answered her, <strong>&#8220;The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy— the Son of God.</strong> And behold, your relative Elizabeth in her old age has also conceived a son, and this is the sixth month with her who was called barren. For <strong>nothing will be impossible with God.&#8221;</strong> And Mary said, &#8220;Behold, I am the servant of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word.&#8221; And the angel departed from her.</em></p>
<p>Luke 1:1-4,26-35</p>
<p><em>Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, <strong>before they came together she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit.</strong> And her husband Joseph, being a just man and unwilling to put her to shame, resolved to divorce her quietly. But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, &#8220;Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for <strong>that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.</strong> She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.&#8221;  All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet:<br />
  &#8220;Behold, <strong>the virgin shall conceive and bear a son,</strong> and they shall call his name Immanuel&#8221; (which means, God with us). When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him: <strong>he took his wife, but knew her not until she had given birth to a son.</strong> And he called his name Jesus.</em></p>
<p>Matthew 1:18-24</p>
<p>A few observations:</p>
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<div>The angel of the Lord visited a virgin</div>
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<div>Mary was assured she would conceive <em>by the power of God</em>. </div>
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<div>Joseph was not yet married to Mary</div>
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<div>Joseph was ready to leave Mary because it appeared she was pregnant in the natural way.</div>
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<div>Jesus, son of God, son of man, came to take away our sins!</div>
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		<title>Why haven&#8217;t I been blogging?</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/11/14/why-havent-i-been-blogging/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, congratulations again to Mark and Michelle on their baby. Between several jobs (two to three) and not having internet at home, blogging has not been the most accessible tool or relevant use of my time.  That, and I&#8217;ve had to take a step back from the books and theology I love to read and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=254&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, congratulations again to Mark and Michelle on their baby.</p>
<p>Between several jobs (two to three) and not having internet at home, blogging has not been the most accessible tool or relevant use of my time.  That, and I&#8217;ve had to take a step back from the books and theology I love to read and step into other&#8217;s lives. </p>
<p>Some questions for you to chew on:</p>
<p>What is &#8220;the gospel&#8221;?</p>
<p>What would be the one or two overarching takeaways you would want to instill into a disciplee?</p>
<p>Is the difference between men and women only physiological?</p>
<p>What, if anything, are the differences in roles of men and women in the ministry?</p>
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		<title>Why haven&#8217;t you been blogging?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[To my fellow bloggers, here&#8217;s a short apologia for my absence online. I recently (a month or so ago) left my cushy engineering job and have been working 2 part time gigs locally, while continuing my seminary studies. I also moved apartments this summer and no longer have internet access at home. Further, my wife [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=253&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To my fellow bloggers, here&#8217;s a short apologia for my absence online.</p>
<p>I recently (a month or so ago) left my cushy engineering job and have been working 2 part time gigs locally, while continuing my seminary studies.  I also moved apartments this summer and no longer have internet access at home.   Further, my wife is 1 week overdue w/ our first child.</p>
<p>So, somewhere between working two jobs, learning more greek and starting hebrew, and prepping the house for the first child, I have haven&#8217;t found time to write.  I hope you haven&#8217;t been heartbroken without your (bi?) weekly dose of Chesterton.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  But here&#8217;s something that is encouraging that I read for class last night:</p>
<p>E. Earle Ellis in his contribution to <em>Interpreting the New Testament Text</em> (eds. Bock, Fanning), Chapter 23 on Colossians 1:12-20, says the following regarding the corporate and individual visions of redemption in the New Testament:</p>
<p>&#8220;Col. 1:12-14 sets forth the same present eschatology [as other corporately salvific passages in Paul], but does this not, as in Romans 5-8 and in Ephesians 2, in terms of a corporate inclusion of all God&#8217;s chosen ones in Christ&#8217;s death, resurrection, and exaltation in AD 33, but in terms of an individual incorporation into him at one&#8217;s conversion. (footnote to <strong>O&#8217;Brien</strong>, <em>Colossians</em>&#8230;pg. 27)&#8230; In God&#8217;s gracious purpose the individual actualization, although temporally separated, does not exclude the prior corporate reality.  Nor is the prior corporate reality independent of the later individual actualization.  Both are complementary parts of one inseparable whole whose fulfillment is as certain as the character and the word of God himself.&#8221;(pg. 424)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if anybody else will dig this quote, but Ellis&#8217; exposition in <em>Interpreting</em> was 13 pages of dynamite.  If you&#8217;re preaching on Col. 1:12-20, check this chapter out.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Indispensable Basic Truth?  It&#8217;s never God&#8217;s will for us to be sick; He wants every person healed every time</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are a couple quotes that I&#8217;ve read in the past couple of days. I&#8217;ve briefly addressed one of them at my other blog, but was wondering if any of the faithful here would want to interact with these quotes. Here&#8217;s another indispensable basic truth you must know and understand about healing: It&#8217;s never God&#8217;s [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=252&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are a couple quotes that I&#8217;ve read in the past couple of days.  <a href="http://potc.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/does-god-cause-sickness/" target="_blank">I&#8217;ve briefly addressed one of them at my other blog</a>, but was wondering if any of the faithful here would want to interact with these quotes.</p>
<blockquote><p> Here&#8217;s another indispensable basic truth you must know and understand about healing: It&#8217;s never God&#8217;s will for us to be sick; He wants every person healed every time. That&#8217;s nearly-too-good-to-be-true news, but that&#8217;s the Gospel. Most Christians don&#8217;t know or believe that. They think the Lord makes them sick, or at the very least, He allows Satan to make them sick to either punish or correct them. That kind of thinking will get you killed; it&#8217;s not what the Bible teaches. <a href="http://awmi.net/extra/article/healing_knowledge" target="_blank">Full article here</a></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>If a person really believed that God is the one who put sickness on them because He is trying to work something for good in their life, then they should not go to the doctor or take any medicine. That would be resisting God&#8217;s plans. They should let the sickness run its course and thereby get the full benefit of God&#8217;s correction. Of course, no one advocates that. That is absurd. It is even more absurd to believe that God is the one behind the tragedy.  <a href="http://awmi.net/extra/article/sovereignty_god" target="_blank">Full article here</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>New Blog</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/08/24/new-blog/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those of you interested I&#8217;ve started a new personal blog. Even with the new blog, I still plan on blogging here (as the groans come-a-flying). Lord willing, I would like to post something on here about once a week, maybe more. Anyways, feel free to stop by my blog and say hi!<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=251&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you interested I&#8217;ve started a <a href="http://potc.wordpress.com/" title="Ponderings of The Cross" target="_blank">new personal blog</a>.</p>
<p>Even with the new blog, I still plan on blogging here (as the groans come-a-flying).  Lord willing, I would like to post something on here about once a week, maybe more.</p>
<p>Anyways, feel free to stop by my blog and say hi!</p>
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		<title>ESV Bible Online</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/08/23/esv-bible-online/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This may be old news for most of you, but I have recently discovered a very handy and useful feature on ESV Bible Online. Whenever I do an in-depth study of a text I like to read it without headings, chapters, and at time verse numbers. This makes it easier for me to focus on [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=248&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be old news for most of you, but I have recently discovered a very handy and useful feature on <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/" title="ESV Online" target="_blank">ESV Bible Online</a>.</p>
<p>Whenever I do an in-depth study of a text I like to read it without headings, chapters, and at time verse numbers.  This makes it easier for me to focus on the text and connect the thought flow of the writer.</p>
<p>Before, I would copy the text into a word file and go off and delete all the headings, chapters, etc.  This process, at times, proved cumbersome.  Now, I have discovered that you can do this on-line all by the simple click of a couple buttons.</p>
<p>First click on the options ling at the upper right hand of the page.</p>
<p>.<img src="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/esv-opt.jpg?w=228&#038;h=140" alt="ESV Opt" height="140" width="228" /></p>
<p>Next, it will bring you to an option menu, where you can customize the text that you&#8217;re reading or searching.</p>
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<p>I have found these options to be very helpful for studying the Word.</p>
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		<title>Idol Talk</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark Driscoll has a short message on idolatry in America.  I&#8217;ve found it encouraging and a place for introspection to be done in my life.  In the video, an Indian woman, beside an altar to a chicken god, blasts America as the land where people build shrines to their sports teams and to their restaurants.  Idolatry in [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=247&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Driscoll has a short message on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCjHm9kzHBg">idolatry in America</a>.  I&#8217;ve found it encouraging and a place for introspection to be done in my life.  In the video, an Indian woman, beside an altar to a chicken god, blasts America as the land where people build shrines to their sports teams and to their restaurants. </p>
<p>Idolatry in my own life- I&#8217;ve always loved football growing up.  I felt God tug on my heart in college and barely watched football and specifically did not watch the Super Bowl in college.  Spending time with Jesus in the Word was better and that has not been taken away.  Many have much better examples and experiences, but I have found Jesus 10,000x better than the biggest sports game of the year.  May we continue to find Jesus better than sports or anything else. </p>
<p>Idolatry to be done away- Driscoll hammers it with the restaurant and food illustrations.  Paul warns in Philippians 3, &#8220;many walk as enemies of the cross of Christ, their God is their belly, their end is destruction, with minds set on earthly things.&#8221;  It is a severe thing to seek first after food.  Where do I cross the lines in living to eat rather than eating to live?  I get up and am lethargic until I start to eat.  May I (and we) seek to eat to the glory of God (I Cor 10:31) with what he&#8217;s given, and not make an idol of food.</p>
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		<title>Deflecting Criticism</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do you deflect criticism and harsh words?  What do you do with the comments you receive, some about yourself some about your beliefs, that come across very bluntly?  Each of us needs a model to process and deal with criticism.  We need to be able to process that which is true on the one hand while [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=246&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>How do you deflect criticism and harsh words?  What do you do with the comments you receive, some about yourself some about your beliefs, that come across very bluntly?  </em></p>
<p>Each of us needs a model to process and deal with criticism.  We need to be able to process that which is true on the one hand while filtering out that which is bad and does not define us.  The Bible&#8217;s words to &#8220;be slow to speak and slow to anger,&#8221; are good to remember in moments of criticism.  There may be a grain of truth or a heap of truth in what we are being told. </p>
<p>In the end, here are a few things to process comments.  First, we should remember that Satan means Accuser and he continually stands by to accuse Christians, BUT his power is gone.  The blood of Jesus, being washed in and refreshing your mind in what it means to be washed in the blood of Jesus means more than just we&#8217;re not condemned, but that we have a right standing with God (Rev 11:12, II Cor 5:21, Rom 8:1).  So if the comment is paralyzing you, plead the power of and refresh your mind on what is the power of Christ&#8217;s blood, repent of unrepented sin, and trust in God to justify you.  Study the Armor of God (Eph 6).  Are you saved from Hell and for Heaven (helmet)?  Are your words and actions girded with truth and integrity (belt)?  Study the rest of the armor!</p>
<p>So that is first.  But keep a few other practical notes in mind when being criticized.  How important is the comment?  Is dismantling something central to your beliefs, or is it rebuking a word of sarcasm, stylistic preference, or something else?  One of the above may have to be reconsidered, one may have to be repented of, and one can be shrugged aside and personal preference.  Next, consider the source- who is providing the criticism?  A close friend will require a much more thorough answer than a stranger off the street. </p>
<p>With these as a few notes, may we be able to press on in heavenly journey and receive, process and throw off those criticisms which prod, pain, and paralyze and follow Christ as ones who have been set free!</p>
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		<title>Senior High Ministry Reflections</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/senior-high-ministry-reflections/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[            Interning with the senior high this summer has made me reflect on one word.  Discipleship.  Jesus made disciples.  He told his disciples to go and make other disciples.  When a man starts to follow Jesus, he is told he should find someone to disciple.  But what does that mean?             Last year when I [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=245&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal"><span>            </span>Interning with the senior high this summer has made me reflect on one word.<span>  </span>Discipleship.<span>  </span>Jesus made disciples.<span>  </span>He told his disciples to go and make other disciples.<span>  </span>When a man starts to follow Jesus, he is told he should find someone to disciple.<span>  </span>But what does that mean?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>            </span>Last year when I tried to lead an 8<sup>th</sup> grade small group, I found the boys were not often interested in what I had to say.<span>  </span>They <em>were</em> interested in kicking sand into a cloud of dust that blocked them from my view, blowing air horns when I talked, and turning their memory verse bookmarks into anything from aeronautical instruments to New Year’s Eve confetti.<span>  </span>How could I break through to them?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>            </span>The answer was easy but challenging.<span>  </span>I needed to step into their lives.<span>  </span>I went to one and then another one of their basketball games.<span>  </span>The tone changed in the small group and they started to listen and interact.<span>  </span>I needed to step into their lives, to see what they were passionate about, and to start to know who they were</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>            </span>That time spilled over into this summer as they have gone into high school.<span>  </span>On a trip back from Colorado one of them asked me, “Larry, can we have small group tonight.”<span>  </span>I knew he was serious and I started to laugh and give thanks as we gathered and they led conversation discussing what changes they wanted to make and what they wanted to apply from experiencing God at camp.<span>        </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>            </span>Since a real faith is a practical faith and impacts those around thus, discipleship has meant leaving church for Bible study and getting something that will brighten someone’s day immediately after study.<span>  </span>It has meant accountability in setting goals- physical, social, and spiritual- each week.<span>  </span>It has meant pressing into the lives of students and seeing if and where there are areas they need to reconcile with a sibling or parent and to exhort them to do that.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>            </span>I could have talked about so much with the senior high ministry, from the garage sale where we raised over $4000, to the trip to Colorado where the power of the worship left several of the boys in tears, to the trip to New Orleans where strangers bought groceries for us in gratitude they had not been forgotten, to the service of students in anything from vacation Bible school to picking up trash at the Taste of Tippecanoe.<span>  </span>But as I review our work with them, discipleship, stepping into their lives, has been a crucial bridge to direct them on the Christian journey.</p>
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		<title>Postmodern Knowledge</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am in gratitude to David Wells for his concise summary of postmodern epistemology.  Certainty itself is hacked away. &#8220;The dichotomy which postmodern epistemology wants to force is one between knowing everything exhaustively or knowing nothing certainly at all.  And since it would be arrogant in the extreme to claim to know what God alone [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=244&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in gratitude to David Wells for his concise summary of postmodern epistemology.  Certainty itself is hacked away.</p>
<p>&#8220;The dichotomy which postmodern epistemology wants to force is one between  knowing everything exhaustively or knowing nothing certainly at all.  And since  it would be arrogant in the extreme to claim to know what God alone knows the  only other option, it seems is to accept the fact that our knowledge is so  socially conditioned, so determined by our own inability to escape our own  reality, that we are left with no certain knowledge of reality at all.  This is  the epistemological position accepted by Richard Middleton and Brian Walsh. All  attempts at `getting reality&#8217; right, they say, have proved to be failures and  Christians should concede as much.&#8221;  <em>Above All Earthly Powers</em>, p. 158 (footnote 46)</p>
<p>For encouragement that we can be certain in what we know about God, see I John 2:26-27, &#8220;I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you.  But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you.  But as his anointing teaches you about evreything- and is true and is no lie,  just as it has taught you- abide in him&#8221; and also I John 5:20, &#8220;And we <strong>know</strong> that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that <strong>we may know </strong>him who is true; and <strong>we are in him who is true</strong>, in his Son Jesus Christ.  He is the <strong>true God </strong>and eternal life&#8221; and Luke 1:3-5 &#8220;it seemed good to me&#8230; to write an orderly account for you&#8230; <strong>that you may have certainty</strong> concerning the things you have been taught.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Contending for the Faith (2)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 14:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Virgin Birth Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.-Jude 3 One popular Christian author and pastor summarizes the idea of viewing doctrine (teaching) and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=243&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="center"><strong>The Virgin Birth</strong></p>
<p><em><span style="font-family:Arial;">Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you appealing to you to <strong>contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.</strong></span></em><span style="font-family:Arial;">-Jude 3</span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">One popular Christian author and pastor summarizes the idea of viewing doctrine (teaching) and specifically the virgin birth, the following way:</span><em><span style="font-family:Arial;">What if tomorrow someone digs up definitive proof that Jesus had a real, earthly, biological father named Larry, and archeologists find Larry’s tomb and do DNA samples and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the virgin birth was really just a bit of mythologizing the Gospel writers threw in to appeal to the followers of the Mithra and Dionysian religious cults that were hugely popular at the time of Jesus, whose gods had virgin births? </span></em><em><span style="font-family:Arial;">But what if, as you study the origin of the word “virgin” you discover that the word “virgin” in the gospel of Matthew actually comes from the book of Isaiah, and then you find out that in the Hebrew language at that time, the word “virgin” could mean several things. And what if you discover that in the first century being “born of a virgin” also referred to a child whose mother became pregnant the first time she had intercourse? </span></em><em><span style="font-family:Arial;">What if that spring [doctrine] were seriously questioned? Could a person keep on jumping? Could a person still love God? Could you still be a Christian? Is the way of Jesus still the best possible way to live? Or does the whole thing fall apart? </span></em><em><span style="font-family:Verdana;"></span></em><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">This sounds different than what the Bible says:</span><span style="font-family:Arial;">Luke writes a letter to his friend and begins it telling him how time and detail he took to make sure he had his facts right</span></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial;">“Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of the things that have been accomplished among us, just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word have delivered them to us, it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely for some time past, to write an orderly account… that you may have <strong><em>certainty</em></strong> concerning the things you have been taught”<span>  </span>(Luke 1:1-4).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial;">Halfway through the chapter, an angel appears to Mary and tells her she will have a child.<span>  </span>Her response?<span>  </span>She says, “How will this be, since I am a virgin?” (Luke 1:34).<span>  </span></span><span style="font-family:Arial;">The angel of GOD responds “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy- <strong><em>the Son of God</em></strong>”<span>  </span>(Luke 1:35).</span><strong><span style="font-family:Arial;">Son of God<em> </em></span></strong><span style="font-family:Arial;">above indicates that Jesus is God’s Son, or God is one of Jesus’s parents (ie: Father).<span>  </span></span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">Jesus’ disciple Matthew also found the virgin birth of Jesus miraculous and important enough to tell us (see Matthew </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">1:18</span><span style="font-family:Arial;">-25).</span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">Isaiah prophesies how Jesus will come into the world hundreds of years before: “behold, the virgin shall conceive…” (Isaiah 7:14).</span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">From the fourth century, the church had a unified statement of truths about God the Christian faith called the Nicene Creed.<span>  </span>This has been endorsed by all different denominations of Christians since.<span>  </span>It has defined who God has revealed himself as- the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.<span>  </span></span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">The virgin birth is both taught clearly in the Bible and upheld historically.<span>  </span>Doing away with it obscures the way God came into this world and lived as a man.<span>  </span>It is not open to negotiation.</span></p>
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		<title>Contending for the Faith (1)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought it would be fruitful to post some notes from this summer&#8217;s Bible study.  My theme has been Jude 3 and hammering home some of the definitive beliefs of the Christian in this postmodern milieu we find ourselves in.  The old saying goes that wherever the boundaries are established, there will the battle take [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=242&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it would be fruitful to post some notes from this summer&#8217;s Bible study.  My theme has been Jude 3 and hammering home some of the definitive beliefs of the Christian in this postmodern milieu we find ourselves in.  The old saying goes that wherever the boundaries are established, there will the battle take place.  I&#8217;m ready to contend for these:</p>
<p align="center"><strong>The Resurrection</strong></p>
<p><em><span style="font-family:Arial;"></span></em><em><span style="font-family:Arial;">Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you appealing to you to <strong>contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.</strong></span></em><span style="font-family:Arial;">-Jude 3</span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Arial;">In popular Christianity, statements come up like the following:</span><span style="color:#333333;font-family:Arial;">I have friends who I am quite sure are Christians who do not believe in the bodily resurrection…</span><span style="color:#333333;font-family:Arial;">Marcus Borg really does not believe Jesus Christ was bodily raised from the dead. But I know Marcus well: he loves Jesus and believes in him passionately. The philosophical and cultural world he has lived in has made it very, very difficult for him to believe in the bodily resurrection.</span><span style="font-family:Arial;">Borg, mentioned above, has spent decades denying the virgin birth, miracles of Jesus (turning water to wine, walking on water, feeding multitudes, and more), and even that Jesus was God.<span>  </span>These exclude him from orthodox Christianity, but what if we limit the above statement to just the resurrection?<span>  </span>What does the Bible say about it?</span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Arial;">Although this comes from a popular writer, is it Christian??</span><span style="font-family:Arial;">The Bible tells us:</span><span style="font-family:Arial;">If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that <strong>God rasied him from the dead</strong>, you will be saved.<span>  </span>For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">-Romans 10:9-10</span><span style="font-family:Arial;">Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, <strong><em>if</em></strong><em> </em>you hold fast to the word I preached to you- unless you believed in vain.<span>  </span>For I delivered to you as of <strong>first importance</strong> what I also received: that <strong>Christ died for our sins</strong> in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that <strong>he was raised on the third day </strong>in accordance with the Scriptures</span><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span>            </span>I Corinthians 15:1-4</span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John all affirm the empty tomb, Jesus’ physical resurrection, and his interactions with the disciples after his death.<span>  </span>In his life he proved his power of nature (calming of storm), over the spiritual realm (casting out of demons), over the physical realm (turning water to wine), over knowledge (knowing all that was done by the Samaritan woman); in his resurrection he proves his power over death itself, the last enemy.<span>  </span></span><em><span style="font-family:Arial;">Death is swallowed up in victory.<span>  </span>O death, where is your victory?<span>  </span>O death, where is your sting –I Corinthians </span></em><em><span style="font-family:Arial;">15:54</span></em><em><span style="font-family:Arial;">-55</span></em><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">The take away-</span></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial;">See to it that you are rooted and grounded in Christ.<span>  </span>See to it that no one, ‘takes you captive by human ideas (Colossians 2:6-8).<span>  </span></span></p>
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		<title>Weekly Dose of Chesterton &#8211; Proposed Origin of Religion</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is commonly affirmed, again, that religion grew in a very slow and evolutionary manner; and even that it grew not from one cause; but from a combination that might be called a coincidence. Generally speaking, the three chief elements in the combination are, first, the fear of the chief of the tribe&#8230;, second, the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=241&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is commonly affirmed, again, that religion grew in a very slow and evolutionary manner;  and even that it grew not from one cause; but from a combination that might be called a coincidence.  Generally speaking, the three chief elements in the combination are, first, the fear of the chief of the tribe&#8230;, second, the phenomena of dreams, and third, the sacrificial associations of the harvest and the resurrection symbolized in the growing corn.  I may remark in passing that it seems to me very doubtful psychology to refer one living and single spirit to three dead and disconnected causes, if they were merely dead and disconnected causes&#8230;Nor could anyone imagine any connection between corn and dreams and an old chief with a spear, unless there was already a common feeling to include them all.  But if there was such a common feeling it could only be the religious feeling; and these things could not be the beginnings of a religious feeling that existed already.  I think anybody&#8217;s common sense will tell him that it is far more likely that this sort of mystical sentiment did exist already; and that in the light of it dreams and kings and corn-fields could appear mystical then, as they can appear mystical now.</p>
<p>G.K. Chesterton from <em>The Everlasting Man</em>, pg. 47.</p>
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		<title>Collaborative 40 Day Fast &#8211; Veterinary Missions</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today is my day in the collaborative 40 Day (Blog) Fast, round 2. If you&#8217;ve been following the fast, thanks for stopping in. I&#8217;m touched by the nature of changing the world this way. What a small thing it is for me to fast and pray for a day, yet collaboratively God may be pleased [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=240&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today is my day in the <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/collaborative-40-day-fast/">collaborative 40 Day (Blog) Fast, round 2</a>.  If you&#8217;ve been following the fast, thanks for stopping in.  I&#8217;m touched by the nature of changing the world this way.  What a small thing it is for me to fast and pray for a day, yet collaboratively God may be pleased to use this in sweeping change in the world for his renown.</p>
<p>The ministry that shares the Gospel and cares for physical needs that I&#8217;d like to draw your attention to is the <a href="http://www.cvmusa.org/NETCOMMUNITY/Page.aspx?&amp;pid=183">Christian Veterinary Mission USA</a>.  Now I have never been on a trip with them, or even been to a seminar or conference.  But my father in law is a veterinarian and has made me aware of their work.</p>
<p>The exciting piece is that sustainable healthy living in 3rd world communities can be brought about in part through the foundation of healthy and productive livestock.  In fact, Jared Diamond in his popular <em>Guns, Germs, and Steel</em> argues that the technological and political primacy of Europe during the last several centuries is directly related to available crops and domesticatable livestock being available to that region for the last several thousand years.<br />
A sustained shift out of crippling poverty and famine in the third world through healthier livestock, in Jesus name &#8211; that&#8217;s a group we need to support.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cvmusa.org/NETCOMMUNITY/Page.aspx?&amp;pid=183">CVMUSA</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Want to listen in on the thoughts of a current missionary to one of the world&#8217;s largest unreached people groups? Now is your chance! Check out Alan&#8217;s blog here. Drop him an encouraging line while you&#8217;re at it &#8211; learning Japanese and communicating the Gospel cross-culturally is hard!<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=238&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Want to listen in on the thoughts of a current missionary to one of the world&#8217;s largest unreached people groups?  Now is your chance!  Check out Alan&#8217;s blog <a href="http://yagimaster.blogspot.com/">here</a>.  Drop him an encouraging line while you&#8217;re at it &#8211; learning Japanese and communicating the Gospel cross-culturally is hard!</p>
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		<title>Iraqi Security Forces</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/07/31/iraqi-security-forces/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are interested in the Iraqi rebuilding/security effort, here&#8217;s a cool article you should read.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=237&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are interested in the Iraqi rebuilding/security effort, here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?entry=6554">cool article</a> you should read.</p>
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		<title>Summer of Reading:  Book Recommendations</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/07/25/summer-of-reading-book-recommendations/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Biographies: Jonathan Edwards: A life, by George M. Marsden is a brilliant biography that goes deep into the life of a theological giant. One of the many things I liked about this biography was it brings you into the reasons and motives for most of his works. Classics: Count of Monte Cristo, by Alexander Dumas [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=236&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Biographies:</strong></p>
<p>Jonathan Edwards: A life, by George M. Marsden is a brilliant biography that goes deep into the life of a theological giant.  One of the many things I liked about this biography was it brings you into the reasons and motives for most of his works.</p>
<p><strong>Classics:</strong></p>
<p>Count of Monte Cristo, by Alexander Dumas is an excellent adventure novel.  I usually don&#8217;t like to read books after I&#8217;ve seen the movie (the one that came out several years ago), but this was well worth it.  The movie and the book are nothing alike except for the similar themes of revenge and imprisonment.</p>
<p>Treasure Island, by Robert Louis Stevenson is another adventure novel that was a joy to read.  If you want to find out where the name &#8220;Long John Silver&#8221; comes from, I would suggest reading this book.</p>
<p>Persuasion by Jane Austen was my fourth Austen novel.  Though it wasn&#8217;t as good as some of here other works (IMHO), it still displayed the good ole Jane Austin style of writing that I&#8217;ve come to like.  I find her to be a very talented and witty author.</p>
<p><strong>Gospel:</strong></p>
<p>God is the Gospel by John Piper, is a typical piper book, loaded with scripture and a strong theological foundation.  This may be one of my favorite Piper books because God used it to give me a better and deeper understanding of the gospel.</p>
<p>Living the Cross Centered life by C.J. Mahaney is another book that gave me a better understanding of the gospel.  The book was loaded with gospel truths and practical advice that encourages you to live the cross centered life.</p>
<p><strong>Recent Fiction:</strong></p>
<p>Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince by J.K. Rowling.  Yes, I am a Harry Potter fan and I don&#8217;t just read them to engage the culture!  Rowling is a brilliant author who has brought us one of the most popular serious of all time.  She brings to life a story that is very intricate and always throws you for a loop.</p>
<p>Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows by J.K. Rowling is the final book in the Harry Potter series.  Does Harry and Voldermort live or die?  Is Snape good or bad?  What is the seventh Horcrux?  Those are all questions that are answered in this book.  And yes, I was one of those people who spent all of last Saturday reading it.  All I can say is Wow!</p>
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		<title>Killer Keller Quote</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;When I first began reading through the Bible I looked for some unifying themes. I concluded that there are many and that if we make just one theme the theme (such as ‘covenant’ or ‘kingdom’) we run the danger of reductionism. However, one of the main ways to read the Bible is as the ages-long [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=235&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When I first began reading through the Bible I looked for some unifying themes. I concluded that there are many and that if we make just one theme <em>the </em>theme (such as ‘covenant’ or ‘kingdom’) we run the danger of reductionism. However, one of the main ways to read the Bible is as the ages-long struggle between true faith and idolatry. In the beginning, human beings were made to worship and serve God, and to rule over all created things in God’s name (Gen 1:26­–28). Paul understands humanity’s original sin as an act of idolatry: “They exchanged the glory of the immortal God&#8230;and worshipped and served created things rather than the creator”(Rom 1:21–25).  Instead of living for God, we began to live for ourselves, or our work, or for material goods. We reversed the original intended order. And when we began to<strong> </strong>worship and serve created things, paradoxically, the created things came to rule over <em>us</em>. Instead of being God’s vice-regents, ruling over creation, now creation masters us. We are now subject to decay and disease and disaster. The final proof of this is death itself.  We live for our own glory by toiling in the dust, but eventually we return to the dust—the dust “wins” (Gen 3:17–19). We live to make a name for ourselves but our names are forgotten. Here in the beginning of the Bible we learn that idolatry means slavery and death.&#8221;</p>
<p>read on <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/articleprint.php?a=2">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>4th of July Bike Tour</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/07/17/4th-of-july-bike-tour/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know you all have been waiting with baited breath for the release of the 4th of July Bike Tour Video. Now it&#8217;s here! Enjoy.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=234&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know you all have been waiting with baited breath for the release of the 4th of July Bike Tour Video.  Now it&#8217;s here!  Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>Hebrews</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/07/16/hebrews/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bryanr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am on the verge of launching into a study of the book of Hebrews and was wondering if anyone would like to join. I am also curious if any of you have suggested commentaries or other resources that would be helpful? I have wanted to do this study for a while but have been [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=233&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am on the verge of launching into a study of the book of Hebrews and was wondering if anyone would like to join.  I am also curious if any of you have suggested commentaries or other resources that would be helpful? I have wanted to do this study for a while but have been putting it off.  It will require significant time and energy which is now available and accompanied by an inprocrastinatable hunger brought on by Heb 1:1-4.</p>
<p>I appreciate any help and would like to study and discuss Hebrews on this blog if anyone else is interested.</p>
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		<title>Weekly Dose of Chesterton &#8211; Romance of Thrift</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Get ready, this is really a dose of Chesterton. Enjoy! &#160; &#160; The larger part of womankind, however, have had to fight for things slightly more intoxicating to the eye than the desk or the typewriter; and it cannot be denied that in defending these, women have developed the quality called prejudice to a powerful [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=232&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">Get ready, this is <strong>really</strong> a dose of Chesterton.  Enjoy!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">The larger part of womankind, however, have had to fight for things slightly more intoxicating to the eye than the desk or the typewriter; and it cannot be denied that in defending these, women have developed the quality called prejudice to a powerful and even menacing degree. But these prejudices will always be found to fortify the main position of the woman, that she is to remain a general overseer, an autocrat within small compass but on all sides.<span>  </span>On the one or two points on which she really misunderstands the man&#8217;s position, it is almost entirely in order to preserve her own.<span>  </span>The two points on which woman, actually and of herself, is most tenacious may be roughly summarized as the ideal of thrift and the ideal of dignity.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">Unfortunately for this book it is written by a male, and these two qualities, if not hateful to a man, are at least hateful in a man. But if we are to settle the sex question at all fairly, all males must make an imaginative attempt to enter into the attitude of all good women toward these two things. The difficulty exists especially, perhaps, in the thing called thrift; we men have so much encouraged each other in throwing money right and left, that there has come at last to be a sort of chivalrous and poetical air about losing sixpence.<span>  </span>But on a broader and more candid consideration the case scarcely stands so.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">Thrift is the really romantic thing; economy is more romantic than extravagance.<span>  </span>Heaven knows I for one speak disinterestedly in the matter; for I cannot clearly remember saving a half-penny ever since I was born.<span>  </span>But the thing is true; economy, properly understood, is the more poetic.<span>  </span>Thrift is poetic because it is creative; waste is unpoetic because it is waste.<span>  </span>It is prosaic to throw money away, because it is prosaic to throw anything away; it is negative; it is a confession of indifference, that is, it is a confession of failure.<span>  </span>The most prosaic thing about the house is the dustbin, and the one great objection to the new fastidious and aesthetic homestead is simply that in such a moral menage the dustbin must be bigger than the house. If a man could undertake to make use of all things in his dustbin he would be a broader genius than Shakespeare.<span>  </span>When science began to use by-products; when science found that colors could be made out of coaltar, she made her greatest and perhaps her only claim on the real respect of the human soul.<span>  </span>Now the aim of the good woman is to use the by-products, or, in other words, to rummage in the dustbin.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">A man can only fully comprehend it if he thinks of some sudden joke or expedient got up with such materials as may be found in a private house on a rainy day.<span>  </span>A man&#8217;s definite daily work is generally run with such rigid convenience of modern science that thrift, the picking up of potential helps here and there, has almost become unmeaning to him.<span>  </span>He comes across it most (as I say) when he is playing some game within four walls; when in charades, a hearthrug will just do for a fur coat, or a tea-cozy just do for a cocked hat; when a toy theater needs timber and cardboard, and the house has just enough firewood and just enough bandboxes.<span>  </span>This is the man&#8217;s occasional glimpse and pleasing parody of thrift.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">But many a good housekeeper plays the same game every day with ends of cheese and scraps of silk, not because she is mean, but on the contrary, because she is magnanimous; because she wishes her creative mercy to be over all her works, that not one sardine should be destroyed, or cast as rubbish to the void, when she has made the pile complete.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">The modern world must somehow be made to understand (in theology and other things) that a view may be vast, broad, universal, liberal and yet come into conflict with another view that is vast, broad, universal and liberal also. <span> </span>There is never a war between two sects, but only between two universal Catholic <span> </span>churches.<span>  </span>The only possible collision is the collision of one cosmos with another.<span>  </span>So in a smaller way it must be first made clear that this female economic ideal is a part of that female variety of outlook and all-round art of life which we have already attributed to the sex: thrift is not a small or timid or provincial thing; it is part of that great idea of the woman watching on all sides out of all the windows of the soul and being answerable for everything.<span>  </span>For in the average human house there is one hole by which money comes in and a hundred by which it goes out; man has to do with the one hole, woman with the hundred.<span>  </span>But though the very stinginess of a woman is a part of her spiritual breadth, it is none the less true that it brings her into conflict with the special kind of spiritual breadth that belongs to the males of the tribe.<span>  </span>It brings her into conflict with that shapeless cataract of Comradeship, of chaotic feasting and deafening debate, which we noted in the last section.<span>  </span>The very touch of the eternal in the two sexual tastes brings them the more into antagonism; for one stands for a universal vigilance and the other for an almost infinite output.<span>  </span>Partly through the nature of his moral weakness, and partly through the nature or his physical strength, the male is normally prone to expand things into a sort of eternity; he always thinks of a dinner party as lasting all night; and he always thinks of a night as lasting forever.<span>  </span>When the working women in the poor districts come to the doors of the public houses and try to get their husbands home, simple minded &#8220;social workers&#8221; always imagine that every husband is a tragic drunkard and every wife a broken-hearted saint.<span>  </span>It never occurs to them that the poor woman is only doing under coarser conventions exactly what every fashionable hostess does when she tries to get the men from arguing over the cigars to come and gossip over the teacups.<span>  </span>These women are not exasperated merely at the amount of money that is wasted in beer; they are exasperated also at the amount of time that is wasted in talk. It is not merely what goeth into the mouth but what cometh out the mouth that, in their opinion, defileth a man. They will raise against an argument (like their sisters of all ranks) the ridiculous objection that nobody is convinced by it; as if a man wanted to make a body-slave of anybody with whom he had played single-stick. But the real female prejudice on this point is not without a basis; the real feeling is this, that the most masculine pleasures have a quality of the ephemeral.<span>  </span>A duchess may ruin a duke for a diamond necklace; but there is the necklace.<span>  </span>A coster may ruin his wife for a pot of beer; and where is the beer?<span>  </span>The duchess quarrels with another duchess in order to crush her, to produce a result; the coster does not argue with another coster in order to convince him, but in order to enjoy at once the sound of his own voice, the <span> </span>clearness of his own opinions and the sense of masculine society.<span>  </span>There is this element of a fine fruitlessness about the male enjoyments; wine is poured into a bottomless bucket; thought plunges into a bottomless abyss.<span>  </span>All this has set woman against the Public House&#8211;that is, against the Parliament House.<span>  </span>She is there to prevent waste; and the &#8220;pub&#8221; and the parliament are the very palaces of waste. In the upper classes the &#8220;pub&#8221; is called the club, but that makes no more difference to the reason than it does to the rhyme.<span>  </span>High and low, the woman&#8217;s objection to the Public House is perfectly definite and rational, it is that the Public House wastes the energies that could be used on the private house.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">As it is about feminine thrift against masculine waste, so it is about feminine dignity against masculine rowdiness.<span>  </span>The woman has a fixed and very well-founded idea that if she does not insist on good manners nobody else will.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">Babies are not always strong on the point of dignity, and grown-up men are quite unpresentable.<span>  </span>It is true that there are many very polite men, but none that I ever heard of who were not either fascinating women or obeying them.<span>  </span>But indeed the female ideal of dignity, like the female ideal of thrift, lies deeper and may easily be misunderstood. It rests ultimately on a strong idea of spiritual isolation; the same that makes women religious.<span>  </span>They do not like being melted down; they dislike and avoid the mob That anonymous quality we have remarked in the club conversation would be common impertinence in a case of ladies.<span>  </span>I remember an artistic and eager lady asking me in her grand green drawing-room whether I believed in comradeship between the sexes, and why not.<span>  </span>I was driven back on offering the obvious and sincere answer &#8220;Because if I were to treat you for two minutes like a comrade you would turn me out of the house.&#8221;<span>  </span>The only certain rule on this subject is always to deal with woman and never with women.<span>  </span>&#8220;Women&#8221; is a profligate word; I have used it repeatedly in this chapter; but it always has a blackguard sound.<span>  </span>It smells of oriental cynicism and hedonism.<span>  </span>Every woman is a captive queen.<span>  </span>But every crowd of women is only a harem broken loose.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">I am not expressing my own views here, but those of nearly all the women I have known.<span>  </span>It is quite unfair to say that a woman hates other women individually; but I think it would be quite true to say that she detests them in a confused heap.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">And this is not because she despises her own sex, but because she respects it; and respects especially that sanctity and separation of each item which is represented in manners by the idea of dignity and in morals by the idea of chastity.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">from G.K. Chesterton&#8217;s <em>What&#8217;s Wrong With the World</em></p>
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		<title>Weekly Dose of Chesterton</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Of course, the main fact about education is that there is no such thing. It does not exist, as theology or soldiering exist. Theology is a word like geology, soldiering is a word like soldering; these sciences may be healthy or no as hobbies; but they deal with stone and kettles, with definite things. But [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=231&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">&#8220;Of course, the main fact about education is that there is no such thing.<span>  </span>It does not exist, as theology or soldiering exist. Theology is a word like geology, soldiering is a word like soldering; these sciences may be healthy or no as hobbies; but they deal with stone and kettles, with definite things. But education is not a word like geology or kettles. Education is a word like &#8220;transmission&#8221; or &#8220;inheritance&#8221;; it is not an object, but a method.<span>  </span>It must mean the conveying of certain facts, views or qualities, to the last baby born.<span>  </span>They might be the most trivial facts or the most preposterous views or the most offensive qualities; but if they are handed on from one generation to another they are education.<span>  </span>Education is not a thing like theology, it is not an inferior or superior thing; it is not a thing in the same category of terms.<span>  </span>Theology and education are to each other like a love-letter to the General Post Office.<span>  </span>Mr. Fagin was quite as educational as Dr. Strong; in practice probably more educational.<span>  </span>It is giving something&#8211;perhaps poison.<span>  </span>Education is tradition, and tradition (as its name implies) can be treason.</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">This first truth is frankly banal; but it is so perpetually ignored in our political prosing that it must be made plain.<span>  </span>A little boy in a little house, son of a little tradesman, is taught to eat his breakfast, to take his medicine, to love his country, to say his prayers, and to wear his Sunday clothes. Obviously Fagin, if he found such a boy, would teach him to drink gin, to lie, to betray his country, to blaspheme and to wear false whiskers.<span>  </span>But so also Mr. Salt the vegetarian would abolish the boy&#8217;s breakfast; Mrs. Eddy would throw away his medicine; Count Tolstoi would rebuke him for loving his country; Mr. Blatchford would stop his prayers, and Mr. Edward Carpenter would theoretically denounce Sunday clothes, and perhaps all clothes.<span>  </span>I do not defend any of these advanced views, not even Fagin&#8217;s. But I do ask what, between the lot of them, has become of the abstract entity called education.<span>  </span>It is not (as commonly supposed) that the tradesman teaches education plus Christianity; Mr. Salt, <span> </span>education plus vegetarianism; Fagin, education plus crime.<span>  </span>The truth is, that there is nothing in common at all between these teachers, except that they teach.<span>  </span>In short, the only thing they share is the one thing they profess to dislike:<span>  </span>the general idea of authority. It is quaint that people talk of separating dogma from education. Dogma is actually the only thing that cannot be separated from education. It is education.<span>  </span>A teacher who is not dogmatic is simply a teacher who is not teaching.&#8221;</span></p>
<p>~G.K. Chesterton from <em>What&#8217;s Wrong With the World</em></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[A group is doing it right now, here.  I&#8217;ve joined some friends who will be starting when the first group finishes.  Check it out and sign up here.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=230&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A group is doing it right now, <a href="http://thesecretlifeofkat.com/pages/40dayfast">here</a>.  I&#8217;ve joined some friends who will be starting when the first group finishes.  Check it out and sign up <a href="isaiah543.wordpress.com/collaborative-40-day-fast/">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Weekly Dose of Chesterton</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/06/27/weekly-dose-of-chesterton-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Men invent new ideals because they dare not attempt old ideals. They look forward with enthusiasm, because they are afraid to look back. G.K. Chesterton, from What&#8217;s Wrong With the World.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=229&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Men invent new ideals because they dare not attempt old ideals. They             look forward with enthusiasm, because they are afraid to look back.</p>
<p>G.K. Chesterton, from <em>What&#8217;s Wrong With the World</em>.</p>
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		<title>RAID THE PIGGY BANKS!!!</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/06/22/raid-the-piggy-banks/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just got an email from a friend pointing me to the DG store.  On June 27-28, all books in the DG store are going for $5!!! (see the banner ad.) Have you always wanted to give that special someone (named Mark) the Piper books he doesn&#8217;t have?  Now is your chance! Ok, really, this [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=228&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got an email from a friend pointing me to the <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Store/">DG store</a>.  On June 27-28, all books in the <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Store/">DG store are going for $5!!! (see the banner ad.)</a></p>
<p>Have you always wanted to give that special someone (named Mark) the Piper books he doesn&#8217;t have?  Now is your chance!</p>
<p>Ok, really, <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Store/">this</a> is incredible.  I&#8217;m emailing my small group to see if we want to give away books to people, etc.</p>
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		<title>Oh my, that&#8217;s funny</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Sacred Sandwich is advertising the new Pirates of the Magisterium. This reminds me of 2 things: 1. If you&#8217;ve never tasted the biting sarcasm of the Sacred Sandwich, you should do so here. 2. I&#8217;ve seen some other pirates about recently&#8230; but they&#8217;re the kind that affirm Sola Scriptura.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=227&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.sacredsandwich.com">The Sacred Sandwich</a> is advertising the new <a href="http://www.sacredsandwich.com/advertisement19.htm"><em>Pirates of the Magisterium</em></a>.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.sacredsandwich.com/images/potm_bwposter.jpg" height="683" width="400" /></p>
<p>This reminds me of 2 things:</p>
<p>1. If you&#8217;ve never tasted the biting sarcasm of the Sacred Sandwich, you should do so <a href="http://www.sacredsandwich.com">here</a>.</p>
<p>2. I&#8217;ve seen some <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8854490@N08/tags/potc/">other pirates</a> about recently&#8230; but they&#8217;re the kind that affirm Sola Scriptura.</p>
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		<title>Request for Resources</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey 5Pointers, In the Johanine Epistles class I&#8217;m currently taking, I have to write a little research paper (7-10 pages). The topic I picked last night is &#8220;The Atonement in 1 John.&#8221; There are plenty of meaty verses in 1 John to cover the page limit, and some interesting statements to wrestle with (e.g. &#8220;not [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=226&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey 5Pointers,</p>
<p>In the Johanine Epistles class I&#8217;m currently taking, I have to write a little research paper (7-10 pages).  The topic I picked last night is &#8220;The Atonement in 1 John.&#8221;  There are plenty of meaty verses in 1 John to cover the page limit, and some interesting statements to wrestle with (e.g. &#8220;not only for our sins, but also for the whole world&#8221; or &#8220;the Son of God appeared to destroy the works of the Devil&#8221; or &#8220;he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins&#8221;).</p>
<p>If you have any resources I should consider while researching these passages (and others), please let me know about them in the comments!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a list of texts (off the top of my head) that I will consult:</p>
<p>Lexicons/Dictionaries: TDNT, BDAG</p>
<p>Commentaries: Bruce, Marshall, Stott, Thompson, Boice, Carson (Gospel of John)</p>
<p>Themed  Works: Owen (Death of Death), Murray (Redemption), Pinnock (Grace Unlimited), Olsen (Beyond Calvinism&#8230;)</p>
<p>Thanks for your input.  And if my paper is any good I&#8217;ll put some of it online.   <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also, if you think of it, I could use your prayers as I research and write.</p>
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		<title>Text on Mormonism, Online</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In listening to AOMin&#8216;s DL today (program dated 06/19/07), Dr. White mentioned that Letters to a Mormon Elder is available online for your reading and referencing. You can check it out here for free. I have been way behind in reading all the posts on Pros Apologian on LDS stuff, but I&#8217;ll get to them [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=225&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In listening to <a href="http://www.aomin.org">AOMin</a>&#8216;s DL today (program dated 06/19/07), Dr. White mentioned that <a href="http://www.novus2.com/alphamin/LETTERS/MAINPAGE.htm"><em>Letters to a Mormon Elder</em></a> is available online for your reading and referencing.  You can check it out <a href="http://www.novus2.com/alphamin/LETTERS/MAINPAGE.htm">here</a> for free.</p>
<p>I have been way behind in reading all the posts on <em>Pros Apologian</em> on LDS stuff, but I&#8217;ll get to them eventually. Meanwhile, I hope this resource helps you in sharing the Gospel.</p>
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		<title>Weekly Dose of Chesterton</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/06/19/weekly-dose-of-chesterton/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Progress is Providence without God. That is, it is a theory that everything has always perpetually gone right by accident. It is a sort of atheistic optimism, based on an everlasting coincidence far more miraculous than a miracle.&#8221; ~G.K. Chesterton (HT: ACS)<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=224&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Progress is Providence without God. That is, it is a theory             that everything has always perpetually gone right by accident. It is             a sort of atheistic optimism, based on an everlasting coincidence far             more miraculous than a miracle.&#8221; ~G.K. Chesterton</p>
<p>(HT: <a href="http://www.chesterton.org">ACS</a>)</p>
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		<title>No one likes it&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/06/13/no-one-likes-it/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nobody likes it when a friend or acquaintence can dish out the jokes but can&#8217;t recieve them back. What&#8217;s worse is when it is on a national scale. I think this news piece is the back end of this universal human fault. Clearly, this is a place where the Brits and Americans have it on [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=222&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody likes it when a friend or acquaintence can dish out the jokes but can&#8217;t recieve them back.  What&#8217;s worse is when it is on a national scale.  I think <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6747801.stm">this news piece </a>is the back end of this universal human fault.</p>
<p>Clearly, this is a place where the Brits and Americans have it on the French.  A half-frenchman (Wallonie, right?) makes a joke, and the French can&#8217;t take it.  C&#8217;est la vie.</p>
<p>I know I could work against this frenchness in me and be less concerned with what others say about me, such that I&#8217;m not going to pounce on somebody to justify myself after thier joke.</p>
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		<title>Daily Dose of Chesterton</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/06/11/daily-dose-of-chesterton-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Our national claim to political incorruptibility is actually based on exactly the opposite argument; it is based on the theory that wealthy men in assured ositions will have no temptation to financial trickery. Whether the history of the English aristocracy, from the spoliation of the monasteries to the annexation of the mines, entirely supports this [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=220&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">&#8220;Our national claim to political incorruptibility is actually based on exactly the opposite argument; it is based on the theory that wealthy men in assured ositions will have no temptation to financial trickery.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Whether the history of the English aristocracy, from the spoliation of the monasteries to the annexation of the mines, entirely supports this theory I am not now inquiring; but certainly it is our theory, that wealth will be a protection against political corruption. he English statesman is bribed not to be bribed. <span> </span>He is born with a silver spoon in his mouth, so that he may ever afterwards be found with the silver spoons in his pocket. So strong is our faith in this protection by plutocracy, hat we are more and more trusting our empire in the hands of families which inherit wealth without either blood or manners. ome of our political houses are parvenue by pedigree; they hand on vulgarity like a coat of-arms. In the case of any a modern statesman to say that he is born with a silver spoon in his mouth, is at once inadequate and excessive. He is born with a silver knife in his mouth.<span>  </span>But all this only illustrates the English theory that poverty is perilous for a politician.&#8221;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">From G.K. Chesterton&#8217;s <em>What&#8217;s Wrong with the World</em>.</p>
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		<title>A fun way to support missionaries&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/06/10/a-fun-way-to-support-missionaries/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hold a Settler&#8217;s Tournament! Get a bunch of guys together and have a tournament w/ an entrance fee &#8211; then give all the money to some missionaries that could use it. It&#8217;s just that simple. In the picture below, you can catch a glimpse of Joel, the &#8220;Lord of Catan.&#8221; I think he easily won [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=218&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold a Settler&#8217;s Tournament!  Get a bunch of guys together and have a tournament w/ an entrance fee &#8211; then give all the money to some missionaries that could use it.  It&#8217;s just that simple.</p>
<p>In the picture below, you can catch a glimpse of Joel, the &#8220;Lord of Catan.&#8221;  I think he easily won by two points.  Congrats Joel!</p>
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		<title>Wow this is sad.</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/06/07/wow-this-is-sad/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t know what to do about this as of yet, but I think linking to it here is a good start. Basically a violinist, leaving the airport in MN was beat up and tased for riding his bicycle home. Yeah. Unbelievable. Now, if you&#8217;ll excuse me, I&#8217;m going to ride my bicycle home.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=217&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what to do about <a href="http://greencycles.blogspot.com/">this</a> as of yet, but I think linking to it here is a good start.  Basically a violinist, leaving the airport in MN was beat up and tased for riding his bicycle home.  Yeah.  Unbelievable.</p>
<p>Now, if you&#8217;ll excuse me, I&#8217;m going to ride my bicycle home.</p>
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		<title>You haven&#8217;t read this yet?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read it.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=216&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/2007/06/06/nothing-to-see-here/">Read it.</a></p>
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		<title>Romance and Infancy</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/06/06/romance-and-infancy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As many of you know, my wife and I are expecting our first child. Fortunately for me, my wife has plunged into the world of literature on the subject and is becoming acquainted with all manner of philosophy on child health and rearing. Since we recently finished The Man Who Was Thursday together, we tried [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=215&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>  As many of you know, my wife and I are expecting our first child.  Fortunately for me, my wife has plunged into the world of literature on the subject and is becoming acquainted with all manner of philosophy on child health and rearing.  Since we recently finished <a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/chesterton/thursday.html"><em>The Man Who Was Thursday</em></a> together, we tried our hand at book one of<a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/augustine/confess.html"> Augustine&#8217;s <em>Confessions</em></a>.  Having read enough of it previously to know he talks about childhood and infancy, I was eager to read it with the wife.  Here&#8217;s an excerpt we came across yesterday that, I think, will be prophetic for our youngster.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>I began to smile; first in sleep, then waking: for so it was told me of myself, and I believed it; for we see the like in other infants, though of myself I remember it not. Thus, little by little, I became conscious where I was; and to have a wish to express my wishes to those who could content them, and I could not; for the wishes were within me, and they without; nor could they by any sense of theirs enter within my spirit. So I flung about at random limbs and voice, making the few signs I could, and such as I could, like, though in truth very little like, what I wished. And when I was not presently obeyed (my wishes being hurtful or unintelligible), then I was indignant with my elders for not submitting to me, with those owing me no service, for not serving me; and avenged myself on them by tears. Such have I learnt infants to be from observing them; and that I was myself such, they, all unconscious, have shown me better than my nurses who knew it.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Pretty Cool</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 13:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here. And here.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=213&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.aomin.org/index.php?itemid=2006">Here</a>.</p>
<p>And <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4313978.stm">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>A Timely Exhortation</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 21:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>larry5</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Listen to brother James&#8217; sobering words.  &#8220;Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.  For we all stumble in many ways, and if anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=212&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen to brother James&#8217; sobering words. </p>
<p>&#8220;Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.  For we all stumble in many ways, and if anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his whole body.&#8221;</p>
<p>James 3:-1-2</p>
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		<title>1730s Marriage in Northampton</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 14:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been reading &#8220;Jonathan Edwards: A Life&#8221; by George M. Marsden the past week.  If you couldn&#8217;t tell by the title, it’s a biography on the life of Jonathan Edwards.  The book has been engaging and stimulating, even for a biography.  One part that completely caught me by surprise was the average marrying age of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=211&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">I&#8217;ve been reading <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Jonathan-Edwards-George-M-Marsden/dp/0300105967/ref=sr_1_1/102-5420252-7532951?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1179410120&amp;sr=8-1" title="A Life" target="_blank">&#8220;Jonathan Edwards: A Life&#8221; by George M. Marsden</a> the past week.<span>  </span>If you couldn&#8217;t tell by the title, it’s a biography on the life of Jonathan Edwards.<span>  </span>The book has been engaging and stimulating, even for a biography.<span>  </span></p>
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One part that completely caught me by surprise was the average marrying age of Northampton in the late 1720s and early 1730s.<span>  </span>From my previous understanding of marriage history (which is very limited), I would assume people during this era would have been married by, at the latest, their twentieth birthday.<span>  </span>I’ve always been under the impression that “back in the day,” people were marrying a lot younger and today’s marriage culture is a new phenomenon.<span>  </span>The “new” concept of marriage at an older age may not always have been the norm.<span>  </span>As Marsden points out, most men and women in Northampton around 1730 were in their late twenties when married (Edwards was early/mid twenties).<span>  </span>Now, this may have been a fluke and a rare occurrence, but shows that our “new” marriage culture <strong>may </strong>not be so new after all.<span>  </span></p>
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		<title>Good News &amp; Bad News</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 23:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, I&#8217;ll start with the good news.  If you wear a helmet when you bike, you have a chance when a delivery truck runs over your head!  Otherwise, you&#8217;re toast.  Talk about an ad for Giro helmets! Now, for the bad news.  Champaign has repealed the ban on smoking in restaurants and bars.  Some bar [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=210&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I&#8217;ll start with the good news.  If you wear a helmet when you bike, you have a chance <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/15/mangled.helmet.ap/index.html">when a delivery truck runs over your head!</a>  Otherwise, you&#8217;re toast.  Talk about an ad for Giro helmets!</p>
<p>Now, for the bad news.  <a href="http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2007/05/16/champaign_repeals_3-month-old_ban_on_bar_club_smoking">Champaign has repealed the ban on smoking in restaurants and bars.</a>  Some bar owners have complained about loss of profits.  The rest of society complains about rising health care costs&#8230;so what does our city council do?  5 to 4 they act like they weren&#8217;t using Giro helmets (see above).</p>
<p>The good news: the state of IL will likely place a statewide ban on smoking in public places later this year.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Watch this video &#8211; tell us what you think</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/05/07/watch-this-video-tell-us-what-you-think/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 13:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Resurgence&#8217;s Banned Church Planting Video (HT:Unashamed Workman)<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=208&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://theresurgence.com/md_blog_2007-04-28_banned_church_planting_video">Resurgence&#8217;s Banned Church Planting Video</a></p>
<p>(HT:<a href="http://unashamedworkman.wordpress.com/"></a><a href="http://unashamedworkman.wordpress.com/">Unashamed Workman</a>)</p>
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		<title>Pursuant to Our Discussion of Seminaries&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/pursuant-to-our-discussion-of-seminaries/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[from the Reformation 21 article on Domestication of Radical Ideas. &#8230;in all of the effort to free the Bible from domesticated categories, it is sometimes forgotten that the taming of Christianity is not limited to the biblical text. For example, once theological education became competitive big business, the marketing of it turned into something well [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=207&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from the Reformation 21 article on <a href="http://www.reformation21.org/Counterpoints/Counterpoints/327/vobId__5857/">Domestication of Radical Ideas</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;in all of the effort to free the Bible from domesticated categories, it is sometimes forgotten that the taming of Christianity is not limited to the biblical text. For example, once theological education became competitive big business, the marketing of it turned into something well beyond the simple description to prospective students of what goes on at a seminary or a college. There is a complex relationship between traditional curricula, the demands of the church, the expectations of the students, and the ability of the marketplace itself not simply to satisfy needs but also to create needs and open up new markets. The implications of theology as commodity have not yet been self-consciously addressed by educational institutions; and, given the nature of the free market as something of a sacred cow in current Western thinking, such questions are unlikely to be pressed in the foreseeable future.</p></blockquote>
<p>(HT: <a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com">JT</a>)</p>
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		<title>Unsatisfactory Definition of Insanity</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/04/27/unsatisfactory-definition-of-insanity/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 03:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Can you tell I&#8217;m up past my bedtime?) We&#8217;ve all heard it, something like: &#8220;doing the same thing and expecting a different result is a definition of insanity.&#8221; I&#8217;ve heard it from college profs, read it in magazines and blogs &#8211; it seems to be accepted in our culture. The problem is, that if we [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=206&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Can you tell I&#8217;m up past my bedtime?)</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all heard it, something like: &#8220;<font face="Trebuchet MS, Georgia, Times New Roman, serif" size="2">doing the same thing and expecting a different result is a definition of insanity.</font>&#8221;  I&#8217;ve heard it from college profs, read it in magazines and blogs &#8211; it seems to be accepted in our culture.  The problem is, that if we stopped and actually considered it, we&#8217;d realize either it&#8217;s an unsatisfactory definition, or we&#8217;re all insane.</p>
<p>Everybody goes to sleep each night and wakes up in the morning.  Do we expect a different result after a night&#8217;s rest?  Do we expect today to be different from yesterday?  Yes.  We&#8217;d be crazy not to.</p>
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		<title>How about some John Stott too!</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/04/26/how-about-some-john-stott-too/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 02:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been reading The Cross of Christ by John Stott and here are some excerpts that I&#8217;ve read the past couple of days. Enjoy and I would recommend this book as well! The reason why many people give the wrong answers to questions about the cross, and even ask the wrong questions, is that they [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=205&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading <span style="font-style:italic;">The Cross of Christ</span> by John Stott and here are some excerpts that I&#8217;ve read the past couple of days.  Enjoy and I would recommend this book as well!</p>
<blockquote><p>The reason why many people give the wrong answers to questions about the cross, and even ask the wrong questions, is that they have carefully considered neither the seriousness of sin nor the majesty of God (Stott 91)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>All inadequate doctrines of the atonement are due to inadequate doctrines of God and humanity.  If we bring God down to our level and raise ourselves to his, then of course we see no need for a radical salvation, let along for a radical atonement to secure it.  When, on the other hand, we have glimpsed the blinding glory of holiness of God and have been so convicted of our sin by the Holy Spirit that we tremble before God and acknowledge what we are, namely &#8220;hell-deserving sinners,&#8221; then and only then does the necessity of the cross appear so obvious that we are astonished we never saw it before.  (Stott 111)</p></blockquote>
<p>Stott, John. <span style="text-decoration:underline;">The Cross of Christ</span>. 20<span class="misspell">th</span> Anniversary Ed. Downers Grove: InterVarsity Press, 2006.</p>
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		<title>Daily Dose of Chesterton</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/04/24/daily-dose-of-chesterton/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Chesterton&#8217;s chapter on Mr. Berhnard Shaw in the work Heretics, he suggests what should be running through Shaw&#8217;s mind when he catches a sight of his own feet: What are those two beautiful and industrious beings,” I can imagine him murmuring to himself, “whom I see everywhere, serving me I know not why? What [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=204&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Chesterton&#8217;s chapter on Mr. Berhnard Shaw in the work <em>Heretics</em>, he suggests what should be running through Shaw&#8217;s mind when he catches a sight of his own feet:</p>
<blockquote><p>What are those two beautiful and industrious beings,” I can     imagine him murmuring to himself, “whom I see everywhere, serving me I know     not why? What fairy godmother bade them come trotting out of elfland when I     was born?  What god of the borderland, what barbaric god of legs, must I     propitiate with fire and wine, lest they run away with me?”</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Campus Ministry Question</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/04/20/campus-ministry-question/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’ve been pondering a question the past several weeks and have started asking others their thoughts. Why do a lot of Christians who go off to college find non-church organizations (i.e. Campus Crusade, Navigators, IV, etc) more attractive than a local church? Now I humbly ask for your thoughts and opinions! Soli Deo Gloria, Adam [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=203&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve been pondering a question the past several weeks and have started asking others their thoughts.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Why do a lot of Christians who go off to college find non-church organizations (i.e. Campus Crusade, Navigators, IV, etc) more attractive than a local church?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now I humbly ask for your thoughts and opinions!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Soli Deo Gloria, Adam</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>Ten Questions for Expositors</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/04/18/ten-questions-for-expositors/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t know about you, but I&#8217;ve throughly enjoyed Unashamed Workman&#8217;s &#8220;Ten Questions for Expositors&#8221; series. You should check it out! Here is a list of those he interviewed so far. Tim Keller Philip Ryken Voddie Baucham Excerpt from Baucham, 7. What are the greatest perils that preacher must avoid? Laziness, pride and the fear [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=202&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="font-family:Arial;"><font size="2">I don&#8217;t know about you, but I&#8217;ve throughly enjoyed <a href="http://unashamedworkman.wordpress.com/" title="Unashamed Workman's" target="blank_">Unashamed Workman&#8217;s</a> <span style="font-style:italic;">&#8220;Ten Questions for Expositors&#8221;</span> series.  You should check it out!  Here is a list of those he interviewed so far.</font></p>
<p><font size="2"><a href="http://unashamedworkman.wordpress.com/2007/04/04/ten-questions-for-expositors/">Tim Keller</a></font></p>
<p><font size="2"><a href="http://unashamedworkman.wordpress.com/2007/04/11/ten-questions-for-expositors-ryken/">Philip Ryken</a></font></p>
<p><font size="2"><a href="http://unashamedworkman.wordpress.com/2007/04/18/10-questions-for-expositors-voddie-bauckham/" title="Voddie Baucham" target="blank_">Voddie Baucham</a></font></p>
<p><font size="2">Excerpt from Baucham,</font></p>
<blockquote><p><font size="2"><strong> 7. What are the greatest perils that preacher must avoid?</strong></font></p>
<p style="font-family:Arial;"><font size="2">Laziness, pride and the fear of men. Laziness will keep us from plumbing the depths of the Word. Pride will keep us from prayer, and the fear of men will keep us from preaching the hard things.<br />
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		<title>Missions Reading List</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/04/14/missions-reading-list/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 14:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Perspectives program has a helpful reading list, split up for all 15 weeks of the Perspectives course. You can check out the titles and course outline here. Go check it out!<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=200&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.perspectives.org/">Perspectives program</a> has a helpful reading list, split up for all 15 weeks of the Perspectives course.  You can check out the titles and course outline <a href="http://www.perspectives.org/coordinators/booktable.html">here</a>.  Go check it out!</p>
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		<title>Seminary: Cemetery?</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/04/14/seminary-cemetery/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 14:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The common joke goes something like that. But there is a grain of truth in it that motivates many commentators. In reading the introduction to D.A. Carson&#8217;s Exegetical Fallacies, 2nd Edition, I found some commentary that is helpful in the quest to allow seminary to be a spiritual green house, rather than a mortuary. Carson [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=201&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The common joke goes something like that.  But there is a grain of truth in it that motivates many commentators.  In reading the introduction to D.A. Carson&#8217;s <em>Exegetical Fallacies, 2nd Edition</em>, I found some commentary that is helpful in the quest to allow seminary to be a spiritual green house, rather than a mortuary.</p>
<p>Carson describes the shift away from devotionally minded Bible reading into critical biblical study as experienced by a fictitious seminary student.  Most seminarians probably come from just such a situation &#8211; fluent in their tradition&#8217;s interpretation and eager for devotional insights, yet unacquainted with critical issues in the text and variant theological perspectives.  The jarring process the exegete undergoes in studying a text Carson describes as “distanciation.”  (Both my computer dictionary and my old red Webster&#8217;s failed me on that one!)  If you look up distanciation on the web, in English, you should find that it describes the process of being confronted with views that differ from your own, after which you must evaluate critically and reestablish your own view.  This process of alienation must happen when we come to the biblical text, otherwise we are just reading our own views or our preferred tradition into the text.</p>
<p>It is clear how this could contribute to some negative effects in the lives of seminarians!  Three responses Carson identifies are “a defensive pietism that boisterously denounces the arid intellectualism&#8230; all around” or “the vortex of a kind of intellectual commitment that squeezes out worship, prayer, witness, and meditative reading of Scripture” or one “may stagger along until he is rescued by graduation and returns to the real world.”(pg. 23)</p>
<p>Carson does not leave us with these three common responses, but suggests that we can enjoy the best of both worlds – intellectual and devotional satisfaction.  “Work hard at incorporating your entire Christian walk (practical/devotional) and commitment (intellectual), and the topic of this study (exegesis, specifically pitfalls therein) will prove beneficial.(pg 24)” [parenthesis added by me.]</p>
<p>So, this post has three encouragements: 1. Wrestle with the text and embrace the shifts in your worldview on account of interacting with Scripture, to be more conformed to it.  2.  There is in fact good stuff in the introductions to books!  3.  Seminary need not be Cemetery!</p>
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		<title>Seminary Selection</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 13:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those of you who are thinking about seminary, here is a helpful post by Mark Dever about factors to consider when selecting.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=197&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who are thinking about seminary, <a href="http://blog.togetherforthegospel.org/2007/04/how_to_pick_a_s.html" title="How to pick a seminary">here </a>is a helpful post by Mark Dever about factors to consider when selecting.</p>
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		<title>Reflections</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have had the past couple of days to reflect upon what I learned from the retreat I spoke at this past weekend. Overall I enjoyed it a lot and am thankful for the opportunity God had given me. Here are some things that I’m learning, in no particular order. 1. Ungodly regret (2 Corinthians [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=196&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">I have had the past couple of days to reflect upon what I learned from the retreat I spoke at this past weekend.<span>   </span>Overall I enjoyed it a lot and am thankful for the opportunity God had given me.<span>   </span>Here are some things that I’m learning, in no particular order.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1.<span>  </span>Ungodly regret (2 Corinthians 7)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It is easy to sit back and dwell upon things I should have said or clarifications I should have provided.<span>   </span>During this time I seem to become focused upon my words and how I could have done better.<span>   </span>There is nothing wrong with evaluating and using it as a time for God to teach and mold you, but when the focus is on yourself and how you could improve to make yourself look better, then that is when your trust is resting in yourself.<span>   </span>On Saturday evening this was the case, I cared more about how good of job I did, which resulted in disappointment and regret in the worldly sense.<span>   </span>My pride was more important than the glory of God.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2.<span>  </span>God is Sovereign (Philippians 2:15-18)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am a huge proponent of sound doctrine and accurately handling the word of truth, and I try by the grace of God to do so as well.<span>   </span>Though I desire this, I know that I haven’t been perfect.<span>  </span>Thinking back to some of the things I&#8217;ve believed and shared in the past, I can quickly point to instances where those things weren’t biblical.  Though God commands us to have healthy doctrine, it is His doctrine and He is in control of His word.<span>  </span>He can take the little truth that is there and use it for His glory.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">3.<span>  </span>Disagreement</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Whether it comes from a misunderstanding or different beliefs, people may not agree with you.<span>   </span>It is easy for me to become unsettled if someone doesn’t necessarily agree with what I had to say.<span>   </span>This once again comes from a man centered focus rather than a Christ exalting one.<span>   </span>Not everyone is going to agree with you, regardless, if you’re right or wrong.<span>  </span>  Paul and other heroes of the faith were always being opposed and opposing people frequently.<span>   </span>Though I’m not comparing my self to Paul and others, by any means, it is a fact that if you preach the truth there will be opposition.<span>   </span>Now, disagreement should always take you back to the Scripture.<span>   </span>God will use His word to confirm a truth or reform you to the truth.<span>   </span>And if you&#8217;re wrong praise God that he has used someone to draw you closer to the Truth.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">4.<span>  </span>Can’t expect everyone to understand right away</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">When you think your talk makes perfect sense, it may not make sense to others.<span>   </span>Some people may be tracking with you right away, but others may have a hard time following.<span>   </span>I know, for myself, I have to take time to process information and that may take days or weeks to comprehend what was shared at a talk.<span>   </span>So, if someone isn’t registering with you right away, that’s OK.<span>   </span>The Spirit works in His own time and that’s different for each individual.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’m sure there are other things that I’m learning, but those are some that are sticking out right now.<span>   </span>I have found it fascinating that God continues to teach you as you&#8217;re teaching others.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Soli Deo Gloria</p>
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		<title>Literature and Amazing Grace</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For class, my professor challenged us all to read a how to book on evaluating different forms of media- whether art, movies, literature, or poetry.  I read Richard Foster&#8217;s How to Read Literature Like a Professor. This helped me focus on the broader scope of what is at play when I read.  For example, consider what [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=195&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For class, my professor challenged us all to read a <em>how to </em>book on evaluating different forms of media- whether art, movies, literature, or poetry.  I read Richard Foster&#8217;s <em>How to Read Literature Like a Professor.</em></p>
<p>This helped me focus on the broader scope of what is at play when I read.  For example, consider what genre you are drawing from- is it allegory, prose, poetry, satire, etc.?  What might some of the elements symbolize in the book?  And then as I stepped back to consider the question, <em>Why read literature?</em>  I was helped by my professor&#8217;s response: read for entertainment- because you enjoy reading.  It&#8217;s a toold to help us teach and help us learn.  And it&#8217;s helpful to understand the present time, past times, and what vantage point the author is coming from.  </p>
<p>To demonstrate how this has helped me, I&#8217;ll explain a few areas I noticed when watching the movie <em>Amazing Grace.</em><font face="Times New Roman"><span>    <span style="font-family:Georgia;"><span>           </span></span></span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span><span style="font-family:Georgia;"><span></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Georgia;">The main idea is repeated-that Wilberforce persevered to end the slave trade.<span> </span>Right after the Parliament passesa bill that would effectively stop 80% of the slave trade, Wilberforce is seenin the darkness of his house, breaking glass.<span> </span>His wife, fully pregnant, runs down thestairs.<span> </span>He crawls to her and they begindiscussing their child who, she says, will play with him in the garden.<span> </span>In the nextscene the father runs through the garden with his boy on his shoulders,laughing.<span> </span>Then his wife runs to them and tellsWilberforce he must come quickly.<span> </span>He appears in front of his friend,William Pitt, who informs him that soon power will shift and his abolition billwill pass.<span> </span>The next scene, the Parliament is insession and overwhelmingly approves his abolition bill.</span><span></span></p>
<p></span></span><span style="font-family:Georgia;"><span>            </span>To move from the bill stopping 80% of the trade to the final bill abolishing all of slavery, the director simply doesn’t flash us from success in Parliament to success two years later.<span> <span> </span></span>He shows that Wilberforce’s wife is expecting.<span> <span> </span></span>Then she talks of him playing with the child in the garden which demonstrates a future time and new birth.<span> <span> </span></span>The darkness after the passage of the first bill is drowned out by the singing and laughing with the child two years later in the garden.<span> <span> </span></span>Instead of constructing a sheer gulf between the approval one bill and the final abolition bill, the director walks us along a graded path, easing us, through the darkness of night, through the child, through the light and joy of the garden, through the visit to William Pitt, that old power is waning and that new life has begun.<span> <span> </span></span><span><span> </span><span> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:Georgia;"><span>Another structural element present is that of allusions- references to other forms of literature or other works.<span> <span> </span></span>For example, symbols within the movie can be read different ways depending on the background of the listener.<span> <span> </span></span>In one scene the former slave Oloudah Equiano, when asked how he survived his trafficking across the ocean replied, “Your life is a thread.<span> <span> </span></span>It breaks or it doesn’t.” <span><span> </span></span>As I heard that, I ran a quick internal check of what it meant for life to be “a thread.”<span> <span> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Georgia;"><span style="font-family:Georgia;">In Greek mythology, the three sisters of fate determined life span.<span> <span> </span></span>The first sister drew out the <em>thread </em>of life, the second sister measured it and the third sister cut it.<span> <span> </span></span>Therefore, it quite possibly meant that the fates had not decided for Equiano to go yet; his thread of life had not reached its end.<span> <span> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:Georgia;">Yet another way to understand this thinking is understanding more of Equiano’s background.<span> <span> </span></span>In West African thinking, likely Equiano’s origin due to his history and accent, not all questions are returned with linear answers.<span> <span> </span></span>So when Equiano is asked how he survived, he doesn&#8217;t simply say he adjusted his hips to keep them from dislocating or collected droplets of sweat to keep himself hydrated or fell back on some other instinct.<span> <span> </span></span>He replies that his life simply did not break.<span> <span> </span></span>It seems that, here too, the element of fate is involved, though coming from a different cultural landscape.<span> <span> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:Georgia;">And yet even modern molecular biology and the cellular components it elucidates, coming into existence more than a hundred years after this story, can enrich Equiano’s analogy.<span> <span> </span></span>This understanding of life as a thread has to do with cell replication.<span> <span> </span></span>Inside the nucleus of each human cell, DNA is stored which serves as the genetic blueprint of life.<span> <span> </span></span>At the end of DNA is a region of repeating DNA, called telomeres, of which a fraction get lopped off following each replication.<span> <span> </span></span>The DNA is getting cleaved and some scientists speculate that this action plays a role in our aging and dying.<span> <span> </span></span>Whether or not this theory holds, it remains established that though DNA is wound up in the nucleus, when it is unwound, it becomes a long strand- like a thread.<span> <span> </span></span>Even the term biologists use to indicate DNA- single-<em>stranded </em>double-<em>stranded</em>, leading-<em>strand</em>, lagging-<em>strand</em>, etc.-alludes to the idea of a thread.<span> <span> </span></span>And encoded in each thread of DNA, <em>fates</em> are determined.<span> <span> </span></span>They predispose one to early mortality or to chemical dependency or to immune-deficiency and numbers of other <em>fates</em>.<span> <span> </span></span></span><span><span style="font-family:Georgia;">Each of these frameworks helps explain Equiano’s reply.<span> <span> </span></span>Although they were likely not the writer’s intent, they demonstrate that literature makes a thread whose ideas and allusions span generations and cultures.<span> <span> </span></span>Why have some of the strongest and ablest perished in their prime while some of the sick and diseased have continued to live has not been answered on a linear scale.<span> <span> </span></span>How did Equiano survive when often two-thirds or more of the slaves would die?<span> <span> </span></span>His answer points to fate.<span> <span> </span></span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Georgia;"><span>            </span>And so literature is not just a form relevant to a select few.<span> <span> </span></span>It has and does make up the culture we live in.<span> <span> </span></span>Understanding its techniques and methods enhances our enjoyment of literature.<span> <span> </span></span>And just like a basic understanding of framing architecture does not denude the beauty in well-built houses like a dissection does to the life of an animal, so too a basic understanding of literary elements does not rob us of the different components that give life to stories.<span> <span> </span></span>These basic elements enhance the experience of plays and music, movies and novels.<span> <span> </span></span>They are devices to teach and learn, applicable in the sciences and essential in the arts. <span> </span></span></span></font></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wrestling with several issues and consultation with the youth pastor I help has led me, in the spirit of Jude 3, to identify some (though not all) of the propositional truths at the center of the Scriptures.   This is referred to as the Bounded Set theory of Christianity which has been heavily emphasized since the reformation.  It [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=194&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrestling with several issues and consultation with the youth pastor I help has led me, in the spirit of Jude 3, to identify some (though not all) of the propositional truths at the center of the Scriptures.   This is referred to as the <em>Bounded Set </em>theory of Christianity which has been heavily emphasized since the reformation.  It hedges, or fences, what is definitely out as far as being Christian.  Deny the resurrection, you&#8217;re still a son of Adam, but you are not a Christian. </p>
<p>Complementing the Bounded Set is a theory more emphasized recently called the <em>Centered Set</em> theory.  It allows for various stylistic components and forms of worship, and takes as its litmus test the various fruit of the Spirit, that no one will condemn.  Are you loving?  serving?  growing in patience?  etc.  It&#8217;s emphasis is on lifestyle.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, some of the contemporary and emerging church emphasies have thrown away the bonded set, or so muddied its boundaries that heresies come in unchecked leading to death.  And unfortunately, it can define love in such a way that asks whether or not we are accepting people and making them feel comfortable at the expense of truth.  A good definition of this comes from John Piper, &#8220;Relationships trump truth.&#8221; </p>
<p>We need both the Bounded and Centered Set views.  We need the proper knowledge of Chirst.  We need the proper response to Christ yielded from it, including living out a life worhty of the gospel (Phil 1) that highlights the Spirit&#8217;s transforming power in our lives.  Here are some of the Bounded Set propositions I have come to.  The essential nature of a select few may be debated, but it would be wise to view anything else with a critical eye from someone denying one of them:</p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">God</font></span></strong></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">One God- existing in three persons (Is 9:6)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Holy, perfect, sinless (Mt 5:48, Ps 24:3, Isa 6:3, Lev 19:2)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Created everything from nothing (Col 1)</font><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span></strong></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">Jesus</font></span></strong></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Always was, begotten NOT created (Col 1, John 1)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Born of the Virgin Mary (Luke 1:26-38, 2:6-7)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Substitutionary Atonement- God’s sacrifice to God for sin- Lamb of God (John 1:29)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Lived sinless (Heb 4:15)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Fully God / Fully Man (The Bible)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">The one way to God (John 14:6)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Lord / King / Master (Rom 1, et al.)<strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font size="+0"> </font></span></strong></font></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">Who is Man</font></span></strong></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">A creature created in God’s Image (Gen 1:27)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Given authority over nature (Gen 1:28-31)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Created as Male and Female- Two COMPLEMENTARY not interchangeable stewards of his creation (Gen 1:27)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Born into sin- (Rom 5:12, Ps 51:5)</font></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">Who is the Holy Spirit</font></span></strong></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">God- person of the Trinity (I Cor 12:4-6, II Cor 13:14)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">The promised counselor from Jesus to lead us in the way (Is 9:6, John 16-17)</font></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"></span></strong><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">Satan</font></span></strong></p>
<ul>
<li>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Powerful / Personal Evil</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Father of Lies, Liar from the beginning (John 8:44)</font></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"></span></strong><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">Hell</font></span></strong></span></strong></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Hell- An eternal punishment that most of humanity will enter </font><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span></strong></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">What is the Bible</font></span></strong></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Inerrant in its original manuscript (Num 23:19, Ps 12:6, Prov 30:5)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">Inspired by God (Ex 31:18, 32:6, Deut 31:24-26, Isa 30:8, John </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">14:26</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">, Isa 30:8)</span></p>
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<p>Feel free to comment or add anything on the above.  Loving Jesus for who He is.</p>
<p>Larry</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger,&#8221; (James 1:19)  is not only good advice but essential in discerning and evaluating truth claims. Last fall, I came across the following statements by N.T. Wright in The Australian: &#8220;[N.T. Wright] An eminent theologian, an expert on the historical and biblical Jesus [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=193&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger,&#8221; (James 1:19)  is not only good advice but essential in discerning and evaluating truth claims.</p>
<p>Last fall, I came across the following statements by N.T. Wright in The Australian:</p>
<p>&#8220;[N.T. Wright] An eminent theologian, an expert on the historical and biblical Jesus and a staunch believer in the resurrection, he baulks at denouncing those who are not.  </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;I have friends who I am quite sure are Christians who do not believe in the bodily resurrection,&#8217; he says carefully, citing another eminent scholar, American theologian Marcus Borg&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;Marcus Borg really does not believe Jesus Christ was bodily raised from the dead. But I know Marcus well: he loves Jesus and believes in him passionately. The philosophical and cultural world he has lived in has made it very, very difficult for him to believe in the bodily resurrection. &#8216;&#8221; (Article by Jill Rowbotham, Apr 13, 2006 <em>Not all Christians believe in the resurrection</em>)</p>
<p>I saw some bloggers immediately condemn Wright and I started to lean in that direction.  Then I started to ask questions.  What if Borg does believe in the resurrection in a spiritual sense and affirms most everything else about Jesus?  Would he be excluded as he tried passionately to follow the Jesus his philosophical and cultural worldview would not allow?  Be slow to speak&#8230;</p>
<p>Wright defends the historical Jesus and especially the resurrection voluminously, eloquently, and passionately.  He also reaches out to and engages his academic brothers of the liberal persuasion.  He challenges the liberal world to consider his Jesus.</p>
<p>But his statements are provocative.  They were the more so coming near Easter last year from a scholar who has spent decades on the first century period and historical Jesus.  And being provoked, I picked up one of Marcus Borg&#8217;s most recent books, <em>Jesus: Uncovering the Life, Teachings, and Relevance of a Religious Revolutionary.  </em>It was an uncomfortable process leading me to evaluate the skeletal system of the faith.</p>
<p>Here are several observations about the Jesus that Borg knows:</p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Not the second person of the Trinity</font><a name="_ftnref1" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn1" title="_ftnref1"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[1]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Fully man, Not God before Easter</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Not the Son of God</font><a name="_ftnref2" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn2" title="_ftnref2"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[2]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Not raised to life from the dead</font><a name="_ftnref3" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn3" title="_ftnref3"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[3]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Not born of the Virgin Mary</font><a name="_ftnref4" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn4" title="_ftnref4"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[4]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Not sinless</font><a name="_ftnref5" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn5" title="_ftnref5"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[5]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">A wisdom teacher on level with Buddha and Lao Tzu</font><a name="_ftnref6" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn6" title="_ftnref6"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[6]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">One among many ways to God</font><a name="_ftnref7" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn7" title="_ftnref7"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[7]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Not necessary to be believed in</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Jesus did not die FOR the sins of the world</font><a name="_ftnref8" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn8" title="_ftnref8"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[8]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Jesus’ crucifixion was NOT necessary</font><a name="_ftnref9" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn9" title="_ftnref9"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[9]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Jesus died for political reasons</font><a name="_ftnref10" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn10" title="_ftnref10"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[10]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal">Didn&#8217;t perform miracles like changing water to wine, walking on water, etc.</li>
</ul>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">In contrast to Borg’s Jesus, the testimony borne in the Scripture of Jesus is contradictory on almost every point:</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Always was, begotten NOT created (Col 1:15-19, John 1:1-5)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Rose from the dead (I Cor 15, Mark 16, Matthew 28, Luke 24, and John 20-21)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Born of the Virgin Mary (Luke 1:26-38, 2:6-7)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Died for the sins of the world (John 3:16) as a Substitutionary Atonement- God’s sacrifice to God for sin- Lamb of God (John 1:29, 3:14)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Lived sinless (Heb 4:15)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">The One way to God (John 14:6)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Necessary to be believed in (Rom 10:9)</font></li>
</ul>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal">What is obvious is that these are two radically different pictures of Jesus and by Wright saying he has friends who don&#8217;t believe in the resurrection but he is quite sure are Christians, and then identifying Borg as one, is profoundly troubling.  There is no doubt, from his construction of Jesus and his denial of the testimony that led to the death of many of the apostles that Borg is preaching another gospel (the severity of which is highlighted in Gal 1:8). </p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal">At best, this demonstrates fuzziness as far as Wright&#8217;s understanding of the gospel.  Borg&#8217;s own <a href="http://www.westarinstitute.org/Periodicals/4R_Articles/Borg_bio/borg_bio.html">autobiographical sketch</a> identifies growing up in a traditional Lutheran community and fails to liberate him from having a cultural or philosophical worldview from which he can deny the bodily resurrection.  Wright is quite wrong about the standing of his friend.</p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal">Practically, it is one thing to say Wright should not waffle on the eternal standing of his liberal friends.   It is quite another for us to do the same, being ready to have friends and family who drive us out and hate us for the name of Christ because we ourselves have a better hope (Matt 10:34-39, Luke 6:22, Heb 10:34-36). </p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn1" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref1" title="_ftn1"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[1]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman">Borg 136 “Was Jesus- the pre-Easter Jesus- God?<span>  </span>No.&#8221;<span>  </span>also Pg 321.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn2" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref2" title="_ftn2"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[2]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 135-136</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn3" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref3" title="_ftn3"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[3]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 274-276</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn4" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref4" title="_ftn4"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[4]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 60-63. </font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn5" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref5" title="_ftn5"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[5]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 120 tells us Jesus “decided to undergo, “John’s baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins,” and on pg 173 Borg entertains as an interesting possibility the notion that Jesus was the prodigal spoken of in Luke 15.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn6" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref6" title="_ftn6"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[6]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 166</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn7" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref7" title="_ftn7"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[7]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 328</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn8" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref8" title="_ftn8"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[8]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 274 “According to the gospels, Jesus did not die for the sins of the world.<span>  </span>The language of sacrificial substitution is absent from their stories.<span>  </span>But in an important sense he was killed <em>because </em>of the sins of the world.”</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn9" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref9" title="_ftn9"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[9]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 274 “Did Good Friday have to happen?<span>  </span>As divine necessity?<span>  </span>No.<span>  </span>As human inevitability?<span>  </span>Virtually.”</font></p>
<p><a name="_ftn10" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref10" title="_ftn10"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[10]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2"><font face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 274</font></font></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometime in the past week(s) we passed 5,000 visitors. Stats really aren&#8217;t that important to me, but I can&#8217;t speak for the others who claim to blog at this site .  I&#8217;m guessing if they cared they would post more and try to drive the traffic up by posting on some controversial topic. Anyways back [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=192&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometime in the past week(s) we passed 5,000 visitors.  Stats really aren&#8217;t that important to me, but I can&#8217;t speak for the others who claim to blog at this site <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  .   I&#8217;m guessing if they cared they would post more and try to drive the traffic up by posting on some controversial topic.  Anyways back to the stats, to be honest today was the first day in a while I checked out our blog stats.  And our traffic has been turtleishly slow recently.   This past week we averaged around 10 visit per day, while during our peak I think we would average around 35 (this is an educated guess).  Our highest day ever was 147.  I know those aren&#8217;t stellar numbers, but what I do interpret from the numbers is we&#8217;ve been slacking in our posting.  You&#8217;d think with 5 people involved in the blog we would have more posting, nudge nudge.  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>We&#8217;ll I just want to confess and say that I&#8217;m a terrible blogger and slacker, but I&#8217;m still alive and kicking.  How about the other bloggers?  You there?</p>
<p>I see Mark&#8217;s still alive, sorry for bumping you brother.  Your post is much better than mine.</p>
<p>Speaking of controversy&#8230;  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobus_Arminius" title="Jacobus Arminius" target="_blank">Jacobus Arminius</a> is my Homeboy!</p>
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		<title>Shot in the arm</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are like me, you find it very easy to stop thinking and praying about reaching out with the gospel to our muslim neighbors here in the US. I don&#8217;t like that inertia. Grab the feed of the Crescent Project podcast and keep these necessary things in front of yourself. Fouad Masri publishes the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=190&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are like me, you find it very easy to stop thinking and praying about reaching out with the gospel to our muslim neighbors here in the US.  I don&#8217;t like that inertia.</p>
<p>Grab the feed of the <a href="http://www.crescentproject.org">Crescent Project</a> podcast and keep these necessary things in front of yourself.  Fouad Masri publishes the podcast once a month &#8211; and you know you&#8217;ve got a spare 15 minutes this month.  It&#8217;s worth it.</p>
<p>(By the way, if you&#8217;re really pumped, check out thier staff opportunities, too!)</p>
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		<title>Goin&#8217; to the chapel and we&#8217;re gonna get Married</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/03/30/goin-to-the-chapel-and-were-gonna-get-married/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was reading parts of Piper’s sermon last week titled, Lionhearted and Lamblike: The Christian Husband as Head, Part 2 and came across this quote talking about leadership in physical protection. This is too obvious to need illustration—I wish. If there is a sound downstairs during the night and it might be a burglar, you [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=191&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">   I was reading parts of Piper’s <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Sermons/ByDate/2007/2022_Lionhearted_and_Lamblike_The_Christian_Husband_as_Head_Part_2/" title="The Christian Husband as Head, Part 2">sermon </a>last week titled,<em> Lionhearted and Lamblike: The Christian Husband as Head, Part 2</em><a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Sermons/ByDate/2007/2022_Lionhearted_and_Lamblike_The_Christian_Husband_as_Head_Part_2/" target="_blank"> </a>and came across this quote talking about leadership in physical protection.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> This is too obvious to need illustration—I wish. If there is a sound downstairs during the night and it might be a burglar, you don’t say to her: This is an egalitarian marriage, so it’s your turn to go check it out. I went last time.” And I mean that even if your wife has a black belt in karate. After you’ve tried, she may finish off the burglar with one good kick to the solar plexus. But you better be unconscious on the floor, or you’re no man. That’s written on your soul, brother, by God Almighty. Big or little, strong or weak, night or day, you go up against the enemy first. Woe to the husband—and woe to the nation—that send their women to fight their battles.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">   I found myself visualizing this scenario in my head, which brought out a good chuckle.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">   On a more serious note, I have thoroughly enjoyed his series on marriage even though I’m still single.<span>  </span>The series has provided great biblical truths about men, women, and marriage.<span>  </span>The world has seriously rejected and reinterpreted these biblical truths, and ashamedly I’ve done so also.<span>  </span>May my understanding of marriage come from the Bible and not from my presuppositions based on worldly, man centered knowledge.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On another note, I’m done with the preparation for my talks tomorrow and I praise God for the strength, wisdom, and perseverance to complete them.<span>  </span>I really enjoyed preparing, even though there were some rough patches.<span>  </span>Sorry for not posting any of it on the blog, I quickly realized that I wasn’t going to have time to post.<span>  </span>Lord willing, I’ll post some things from it next week.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">To God be the glory</p>
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		<title>Hebrews Participation</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ladies and Gents, as I prepare for a couple of talks I&#8217;m going to recruit your help.  Currently I&#8217;m going to base the talks off of Hebrews 3:12-14, 12 Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. 13 But exhort one another [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=188&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">Ladies and Gents, as I prepare for a couple of talks I&#8217;m going to recruit your help.  Currently I&#8217;m going to base the talks off of Hebrews 3:12-14,<span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;"><br />
</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;">12 Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. 13 But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end.</span></p>
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<p>OK, now I want <span style="font-weight:bold;">you</span> to make some observations about this text.  Don&#8217;t be shy, give me at least 5 observations and feel free to bring in more context as well.  Different perspectives will be useful, but if no one participates, this may be the last time I ask for your help in my preparation. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Over the course of the next couple weeks I&#8217;ll post parts of the talks so you can get a flavor for what I&#8217;m going to share.  And feel free to give your two cents worth as well.  Maybe this will bring the blog back to life&#8230; <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Books:  Must Reads</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you haven&#8217;t read &#8220;The Holiness of God&#8221; by R.C Sproul, you need to move it up on the reading list. It has planted itself firmly in my top 5 book list. Another book I&#8217;ve been working on for a while and almost finished is &#8220;Overcoming Sin and Temptation&#8221; by John Owen. If you haven&#8217;t [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=187&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you haven&#8217;t read <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Holiness-God-R-C-Sproul/dp/0842339655" title="The Holiness of God" target="_blank"><em>&#8220;The Holiness of God&#8221;</em></a> by R.C Sproul, you need to move it up on the reading list.  It has planted itself firmly in my top 5 book list.</p>
<p>Another book I&#8217;ve been working on for a while and almost finished is <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Overcoming-Sin-Temptation-John-Owen/dp/1581346492/ref=sr_1_1/002-1540023-2358452?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1173359120&amp;sr=1-1" title="Overcoming Sin and Temptation" target="_blank"><em>&#8220;Overcoming Sin and Temptation&#8221;</em></a> by John Owen.  If you haven&#8217;t read this book or don&#8217;t plan too, you need to put down your Hardy Boys or Nancy Drew and get some meat. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>True or False</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 03:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While reading a systematic theology (of sorts) I came across the following statement, which I&#8217;d like you to comment on. This was taken from a discussion of the church and it&#8217;s mission. I am not concerned so much with what the quote says regarding the church, but what it says about God. What do you [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=186&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While reading a systematic theology (of sorts) I came across the following statement, which I&#8217;d like you to comment on.  This was taken from a discussion of the church and it&#8217;s mission.  I am not concerned so much with what the quote says regarding the church, but what it says about God.  What do you think?  True or False? (and why!)</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;The church does not exist for itself alone any more than God has not chosen to exist for God alone.&#8221;</strong></p>
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		<title>The church for me</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[CEFC is a great church, God is working here, but I think it&#8217;s time for my wife and I to attend Holy Kiss Baptist Church.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=185&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CEFC is a great church, God is working here, but I think it&#8217;s time for my wife and I to attend <a href="http://tominthebox.blogspot.com/2007/02/church-goes-glam-rock-to-attrack-old.html#links">Holy Kiss Baptist Church</a>.  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Monergism Updated</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/monergism-updated/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monergism has a new and slick website. It is way cooler than the old site with the same great resources. If you&#8217;ve never been there you should check it out! www.monergism.com<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=184&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monergism has a new and slick website.  It is way cooler than the old site with the same great resources.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve never been there you should check it out!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.monergism.com" title="Monergism.com" target="_blank">www.monergism.com </a></p>
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		<title>Sermon Quote</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/02/12/sermon-quote/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mikeb</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My pastor preached a really good sermon on tithing this morning and quoted a sermon he gave last year in a sermon series called &#8220;Buried Treasure&#8221; (www.bethelweb.org). Great series! Anyway, here is a cool quote about the fine line of teaching &#8220;tithing&#8221; and its application in our Christian lives: &#8220;If you don&#8217;t make it a [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=183&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My pastor preached a really good sermon on tithing this morning and quoted a sermon he gave last year in a sermon series called &#8220;Buried Treasure&#8221; (www.bethelweb.org).  Great series!  Anyway, here is a cool quote about the fine line of teaching &#8220;tithing&#8221; and its application in our Christian lives:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you don&#8217;t make it a rule, people who love money don&#8217;t start there.  If you make it a rule, legalists stop there.&#8221; (http://www.bethelweb.org/sermons/2006/060219.pdf)</p>
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		<title>Hear No Evil</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>larry5</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Can everyone who has a cell phone take it out and raise it in the air?&#8221; The MC asked. &#8220;Now, everyone who has a phone, make sure that you turn it off.&#8221; Ten minutes later I laughed, but no one could hear me. Even if every cell phone in the room was on, no one [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=182&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Can everyone who has a cell phone take it out and raise it in the air?&#8221; The MC asked. &#8220;Now, everyone who has a phone, make sure that you turn it off.&#8221; Ten minutes later I laughed, but no one could hear me. Even if every cell phone in the room was on, no one would hear them ringing.  The praise music was that loud.</p>
<p>The overriding theme in worship at youth retreats I have helped lead is that the louder the music, the better the worship. Now this view presupposes several things: first, that worship is only or primarily singing and not praying, pouring over God&#8217;s Word, telling people about God, or stuyding the lives, teachings, and wisdom of bygone saints. Second, this view seems to presuppose that God is honored more by a destructive decibal level than the hearts of those singing and the choice of lyrics in the songs. Now I would like to proceed carefully, because the best way to be rid of a fly is not to pound it against the wall with a sledgehammer, but to swat it with a rolled up newspaper or magazine; if I come down too hard, I find my critique of this peripheral issue doing more harm than good, all the while missing the fly.  If I miss the &#8220;fly&#8221; with the newspaper, it still stands as little more than a minor nuisance, but a nuisance nonetheless.</p>
<p>Hearing is one of those God-given faculties that, like the ability to run or speak, the gift of a wife or a child or a godly mother and father, is not given to all, but is a grace from God. It is unique and helpful to us as is seeing or tasing or smelling or touching. Now my contention is this- when the music gets too loud, I can neither hear the person next to me, nor in front of me, nor even myself.  Damage is done, permanent damage is done, to my hearing.  I, for the choice of several minutes of worship, have lessened the worship I can do later by listening to the hand of the Creator in the song of a carol of a bird or the lullaby of a cricket or the roar of a waterfall (all your breakers and your waves have rolled over me -Ps 42).</p>
<p>The other struggle I have is that when the music gets so loud, I stop thinking about singing to God and start focusing more on the singer. I can hear nothing else, and the intensity of the beat points back to the musician, and in my experience, away from God.  And does playing the music so loud that one can hear nothing else cause us to be more reflective of the words, or mindlessly repeat them as they have been burned into our brains. Would we do this with another sense?  Would it be advisable that, upon making a worship video, the graphics editor would intensify the light source of the media to watch, thereby burning our retinas?  And one may, it seems, counter that God did this very thing to Paul, focusing his eyes on Christ whom he was persecuting. Paul we are told, possibly as a result of this, struggled with very real problems with his eyes, but he never forgot how God changed his life one day to Damascus. Yet I would respond this that it was God who blinded Paul, and man did not work as an agent in that act  (excepting the prayers likey lifted up on Paul&#8217;s behalf); and secondly, Paul did not want this ailment, and we are told that many would have given their eyes to him (Gal 4:15).</p>
<p>Finally, there is a carnality at work in this that leads away from maturity in Christ, but back towards more experience with spiritual excesses.  Music and TV at home are turned to levels that keep people from talking in regular voices.  Music in cars is blasted to recreate that <em>worship feeling</em> so that people, feet away from each other, can be worlds away emotionally and otherwise.  Though there are many other factors at play, I have found the previous two to be true. </p>
<p>I maintain that raising the volume to levels similar to those of industrial machinery does damage and creates a tolerance for such noise that will detract from other worship and carry over to other environments, hampering dialogue and relationships.</p>
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		<title>A Helpful Explanation of what is meant by the “Active” and “Passive” Obedience of Christ</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;The real use and purpose of the [Active/Passive Obedience] formula is to emphasize the two distinct aspects of our Lord&#8217;s vicarious obedience. The truth expressed rests upon the recognition that the law of God has both penal sanctions and positive demands. It demands not only the full discharge of its precepts but also the infliction [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=181&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;The real use and purpose of the </span><span>[Active/Passive Obedience] </span><span>formula  is to emphasize the two distinct aspects of our Lord&#8217;s vicarious obedience.<span>  </span>The truth expressed rests upon the recognition that the law of God has both penal sanctions and positive demands.<span>  </span>It demands not only the full discharge of its precepts but also the infliction of penalty for all infractions and shortcomings.<span>  </span>It is this twofold demand of the law of God which is taken into account when we speak of the active and passive obedience of Christ.<span>  </span>Christ as the vicar of his people came under the curse and condemnation due to sin and he also fulfilled the law of God in all its positive requirements.<span>  </span>In other words, he took care of the guilt of sin and perfectly fulfilled the demands of righteousness.<span>  </span>He perfectly met both the penal and the preceptive requirements of God&#8217;s law.<span>  </span>The passive obedience refers to the former and the active obedience to the latter.<span>  </span>Christ&#8217;s obedience was vicarious in the bearing of the full judgment of God upon sin, and it was vicarious in the full discharge of the demands of righteousness.<span>  </span>His obedience becomes the ground of the remission of sin and of actual justification.&#8221;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From John Murray’s <em>Redemption Accomplished and Applied</em>, pg. 21 &amp; 22.<span>  </span></p>
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		<title>On Writing Well</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My lovely wife gave me On Writing Well, by William Zinsser this Christmas. In a desire to write well I have set about reading Zinsser&#8217;s insights. It is my goal over the next several weeks to post on the chapters I&#8217;ve read (one per week), and you can judge the improvement of my writing as [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=180&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Writing-Well-30th-Anniversary-Nonfiction/dp/0060891548/sr=8-2/qid=1168875197/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/104-7445708-2711101?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books"><img src="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/onwritingwell.thumbnail.jpg?w=128&#038;h=128" alt="On Writing Well" align="left" height="128" width="128" /></a>My lovely wife gave me <em>On Writing Well</em>, by William Zinsser this Christmas.<span>  </span>In a desire to write well I have set about reading Zinsser&#8217;s insights.<span>  </span>It is my goal over the next several weeks to post on the chapters I&#8217;ve read (one per week), and you can judge the improvement of my writing as I report and review.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Chapter 1: The Transaction</p>
<p><span id="more-180"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Zinsser explains that the transaction between author and reader is the communication of the &#8220;humanity and warmth&#8221; of the author.<span>  </span>What is the vehicle of this transaction?<span>  </span>The language used.<span>  </span>This is startlingly obvious, and yet helpfully insightful.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> This insight comes after Zinsser explains that we write to be known.<span>  </span>I&#8217;m struck by the vanity of the writing endeavor.<span>  </span>It reveals me as selfish, but it’s true.<span>  </span>Where this vanity persists, there is also, subtly, a God-likeness.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Am I saying that we are like God by being vain?<span>  </span>Well, God is not vain, but he is the most God-focused person in the universe.<span>  </span>(How else would you understand passages like Isaiah 48:11?)<span>  </span>So, in this sense, in wanting to be known, by expressing ourselves to others, we are like God.<span>  </span>The chief difference of course is that we are creatures and not God.<span>  </span>Further, God is good to us by revealing himself to us.<span>  </span>In fact, the greatest good in the universe &#8211; knowing and delighting in God &#8211; is achieved by the revealing of God to us.<span>  </span>I&#8217;m sorry to disappoint you, but my self-revelation in this text is not your greatest good.<span>  </span>Hence, my writing teeters on vanity, while God&#8217;s writing is a blessing of the first order.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Once again, this seems startlingly obvious, and yet insightful.<span>  </span>We bear the image of God, so of course our creative activities will be marked by a similarity to his.<span>  </span>He has written his name on his creation, and his incarnation.<span>  </span>As people made in his image, it should be expected that we would follow suit in what we make.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Zinsser’s identification of “humanity and warmth&#8221; as best communicated with &#8220;clarity and strength&#8221; in ‘writing well’ ignites two additional thoughts:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1.)<span>  </span>God&#8217;s writing (the Scripture) communicates the &#8216;divinity and life&#8217; of God to us.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2.)<span>  </span>As writers (even casual ones like me) we desire communication of the &#8220;humanity and warmth&#8221; within us.<span>  </span>What is my humanity?<span>  </span>What is the warmth of my life? Indeed, it is the Man, the Definer of Humanity, Christ Jesus.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Zinsser seeks and teaches a transaction through non-fiction writing of the personhood of the author.  Redeemed humanity bears forth Christ, the image of the invisible God.  May our writing share Christ through us, in such a transaction.</p>
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		<title>Dr. Mohler</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 15:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just wanted to make aware anyone who wasn&#8217;t.  Dr. Mohler is extremely sick with a condition called pulmonary emboli.  He is currently in intesive care so&#8230;keep him in your prayers.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=178&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to make aware anyone who wasn&#8217;t.  Dr. Mohler is extremely sick with a condition called pulmonary emboli.  He is currently in intesive care so&#8230;keep him in your prayers.</p>
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		<title>A Bad Argument</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 04:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>larry5</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I&#8217;ve formulated areas of contention I have with the New Paul Perspective (NPP), I terminated one.  As St. Augustine showed me in a slightly different address, the argument was bad. My line of thought went like this, &#8220;The NPP sprung out of liberal theology; it&#8217;s original theology runs so bad as to be unorhodox; [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=177&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve formulated areas of contention I have with the New Paul Perspective (NPP), I terminated one.  As St. Augustine showed me in a slightly different address, the argument was bad. My line of thought went like this, &#8220;The NPP sprung out of liberal theology; it&#8217;s original theology runs so bad as to be unorhodox; therefore a distilling of the material and subsequent refined NPP objective is bad because of where it came from.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/12022.htm">Augustine had a great image (Chapter 40).</a> He developed the scene- God moved on the hearts of the Egyptian people and the Israelites plundered them of their gold.  Where heathen philosophy, moralism, etc. lines up with what we know to be true, we shouldn&#8217;t just ignore it or defame it.  We should take that which we find to be true and liberate it.  In this way, the Israelites plundered the Egyptians for their gold as they left Egypt.  The gold articles and &#8220;gold philosophies&#8221; erected to serve idols and demons had no idea they would eventually go to serve the one true and living God.  And in this way, Augustine quotes Acts, &#8220;Moses was learned in ALL the wisdom of the Egyptians&#8221; (Acts 7:22). In the same way we can take the gold studies from biology, built on an evolutionary principle, and use them to understand the world and help cure diseases, etc.  We don&#8217;t just throw out the whole field because it serves a Darwinian model.</p>
<p>If the historical research done by E.P. Sanders is really that great, then it should be liberated and refined to honor the God of the Bible.  There&#8217;s an old Latin proverb that says, &#8220;There&#8217;s no book so bad that it has no value.&#8221;  Now I&#8217;d not side 100% with this quote, but see it as a challenging principle.  Therefore, I find it a bad argument to fault Wright for reading / engaging Sanders and adopting principles from his studies.  My perception is that he has done <em>enough</em> to separate them / liberate them from the agenda Sanders was serving.</p>
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		<title>Between the Lines</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 05:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#8217;t plan on this post, but it came as a reaction to an article I read two weeks ago.  The reaction came most strongly as I analyzed how I read the article.  I read it quickly and was very assuming.    The first time I skimmed through the article and set it aside.  I understood Piper was likening the NPP [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=176&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t plan on this post, but it came as a reaction to an <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/TasteAndSee/ByDate/2006/1908_Jesus_Islam_Pharisees_and_the_New_Perspective_on_Paul/">article</a> I read two weeks ago.  The reaction came most strongly as I analyzed <em>how</em> I read the article.  I read it quickly and was very assuming.   </p>
<p>The first time I skimmed through the article and set it aside.  I understood Piper was likening the NPP folks the Pharisees of Christ&#8217;s day.  I reread the same points and same thing.  BUT THEN, as I read it again, <em>slowly</em>, I saw this was not his point in writing.  He was appealing to Romans to refute one of the main claims of the NPP; that the Jews of Christ&#8217;s days weren&#8217;t trying to work themselves into the people of God, they were already born into it and under grace.  The Judaism of Christ&#8217;s day, they say, wasn&#8217;t about moralism so much as racial distinction and being the true people of God.  One lesson I learned- READ SLOWLY and CAREFULLY, especially as the stakes and import of what is being read rises. </p>
<p>In a class I took, one student heckled another, &#8220;In the footnotes it says??  WHO READS THE FOOTNOTES??&#8221; and a couple weeks later, &#8220;Hey, I was making fun of you the other night for reading the footnotes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Carfeul, assiduous study leads to engaging the author- understanding what he did say and not purporting what he did not.  I am guilty of being sloppy and assuming in my study.  As I&#8217;ve seen it in others, I commend all the more reading less and understanding more.  My resolution is to not  pat myself on the back for volume of material conquered, but to aim more for depth and engagement with the author and material.</p>
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		<title>Spurgeon on the birth of Jesus and Christmas</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are some excerpts from a sermon preached the Lord&#8217;s-Day morning December 24th, 1871 Click for &#160; Joy Born at Bethlehem &#8220;And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=175&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some excerpts from a <a href="http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/1026.htm" title="Spurgeon Sermon" target="_blank">sermon</a> preached the Lord&#8217;s-Day morning December 24th, 1871</p>
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<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" align="center"><strong>   Joy Born at Bethlehem</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> &#8220;And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.&#8221;—Luke 2:10-12.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> On the birth&#8230;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The joy which this first gospel preacher spoke of was no mean one, for he said, &#8220;I bring you good tidings&#8221;—that alone were joy: and not good tidings of joy only, but &#8220;good tidings of great joy.&#8221; Every word is emphatic, as if to show that the gospel is above all things intended to promote, and will most abundantly create the greatest possible joy in the human heart wherever it is received. Man is like a harp unstrung, and the music of his soul&#8217;s living strings is discordant, his whole nature wails with sorrow; but the son of David, that mighty harper, has come to restore the harmony of humanity, and where his gracious fingers move among the strings, the touch of the fingers of an incarnate God brings forth music sweet as that of the spheres, and melody rich as a seraph&#8217;s canticle. Would God that all men felt that divine hand.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> On Christmas&#8230;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">WE HAVE NO superstitious regard for times and seasons. Certainly we do not believe in the present ecclesiastical arrangement called Christmas: first, because we do not believe in the mass at all, but abhor it, whether it be said or sung in Latin or in English; and, secondly, because we find no Scriptural warrant whatever for observing any day as the birthday of the Saviour; and, consequently, its observance is a superstition, because not of divine authority. Superstition has fixed most positively the day of our Saviour&#8217;s birth, although there is no possibility of discovering when it occurred. Fabricius gives a catalogue of 136 different learned opinions upon the matter; and various divines invent weighty arguments for advocating a date in every month in the year. It was not till the middle of the third century that any part of the church celebrated the nativity of our Lord; and it was not till very long after the Western church had set the example, that the Eastern adopted it. Because the day is not known, therefore superstition has fixed it; while, since the day of the death of our Saviour might be determined with much certainty, therefore superstition shifts the date of its observance every year. Where is the method in the madness of the superstitious? Probably the fact is that the holy days were arranged to fit in with heathen festivals. We venture to assert, that if there be any day in the year, of which we may be pretty sure that it was not the day on which the Saviour was born, it is the twenty-fifth of December. Nevertheless since, the current of men&#8217;s thoughts is led this way just now, and I see no evil in the current itself, I shall launch the bark of our discourse upon that stream, and make use of the fact, which I shall neither justify nor condemn, by endeavoring to lead your thoughts in the same direction. Since it is lawful, and even laudable, to meditate upon the incarnation of the Lord upon any day in the year, it cannot be in the power of other men&#8217;s superstitions to render such a meditation improper for to-day. Regarding not the day, let us, nevertheless, give God thanks for the gift of his dear son.</p>
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		<title>Can I get some Cowper this morning?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jehovah-Jesus My song shall bless the Lord of all, My praise shall climb to His abode; Thee, Saviour, by that name I call, The great Supreme, the mighty God. Without beginning or decline, Object of faith and not of sense; Eternal ages saw Him shine, He shines eternal ages hence. As much when in the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=174&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong> Jehovah-Jesus</strong></p>
<p>My song shall bless the Lord of all,<br />
My praise shall climb to His abode;<br />
Thee, Saviour, by that name I call,<br />
The great Supreme, the mighty God.<br />
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<p>Without beginning or decline,<br />
Object of faith and not of sense;<br />
Eternal ages saw Him shine,<br />
He shines eternal ages hence.</p>
<p>As much when in the manger laid,<br />
Almighty Ruler of the sky,<br />
As when the six days&#8217; work He made,<br />
Fill&#8217;d all the morning stars with joy.</p>
<p>Of all the crowns Jehovah bears,<br />
Salvation is His dearest claim;<br />
That gracious sound well pleased He hears<br />
And owns Emmanuel for His name.</p>
<p>A cheerful confidence I feel,<br />
My well placed hopes with joy I see;<br />
My bosom glows with heavenly zeal,<br />
To worship Him who died for me.</p>
<p>As man He pities my complaint,<br />
His power and truth are all divine;<br />
He will not fail, He cannot faint;<br />
Salvation&#8217;s sure, and must be mine.</p>
<p>-William Cowper</p>
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		<title>Ungodly Driven Blogging</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the past several weeks I was intending to write some post over various issues, such as the NPP and egalitarianism.  Each post would have been a response to books I&#8217;ve been reading or a brief conversation I had with a friend.  To post about the two topics isn&#8217;t inherently wrong, but for me, my [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=173&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Over the past several weeks I was intending to write some post over various issues, such as the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Perspectives_on_Paul" title="NPP" target="_blank">NPP</a><span style="font-style:italic;"></span><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;"></span></span> and egalitarianism.  Each post would have been a response to books I&#8217;ve been reading or a brief conversation I had with a friend.  To post about the two topics isn&#8217;t inherently wrong, but for me, my heart&#8217;s intentions were driven by sin.  As I was diagramming the posts in my head (yeah I&#8217;m an internalizer ) I was noticing some common themes in my thoughts. <span id="more-173"></span></p>
<p>First, a lot of my thoughts were being based off of ungodly emotions.  What I mean by this is that my response to the two events had elements of anger and frustration as the driving force for the posts.  They wouldn&#8217;t have been full of grace, love and humility, even though the foundational premise for these posts was biblical.</p>
<p>Second, a lot of the thoughts were being directed at the persons rather than the principles of their arguments.  Pride was taken over my heart with the I&#8217;m better than you attitude.  If I went through with the two posts at that time they would have been man centered rather than gospel centered.</p>
<p>God is most gracious and I thank him for his always convicting gospel.  It&#8217;s amazing how blogging has been spiritual rewarding.  In all my reasons for taking up blogging, I never would&#8217;ve thought God would use it to reveal areas of sin in my life.</p>
<p>As I continue with blogging, hopefully more than what I&#8217;ve been doing, I think there are some (not exhausted) basic principles I should follow before I start outlining a post (And all of life for that matter).</p>
<blockquote><p> 1.  <span class="chapter-num"></span>If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. (<span class="verse-num">2) </span>Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth.  Col 3:1-2</p>
<p>2.  <span class="verse-num"></span>Put to death therefore what is earthly in you:<span class="footnote"> </span>sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. (<span class="verse-num">6) </span>On account of these the wrath of God is coming.<span class="footnote"> <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Colossians+3#f3" name="b3" title="Some manuscripts add 'upon the sons of disobedience'"></a></span><span class="verse-num">(7) </span>In these you too once walked, when you were living in them. <span class="verse-num">(8) </span>But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth.  Col 3:5-8</p>
<p>3.  <span class="verse-num"></span>Put on then, as God&#8217;s chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassion, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience, <span class="verse-num">(13) </span>bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive.  Col 3:12-13</p>
<p>4.  <span class="verse-num"></span>And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony. Col 3:14</p>
<p>5.  <span class="verse-num"></span>And let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, to which indeed you were called in one body. And be thankful. Col 3:15</p>
<p>6.  <span class="verse-num"></span>Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God.  Col 3:16</p>
<p>7.  And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.  Col 3:17</p>
<p><span class="verse-num">8.  </span>Therefore, having put away falsehood, let each one of you speak the truth with his neighbor, for we are members one of another. Eph 4:25</p>
<p>9.  <span class="verse-num"></span>Be angry and do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger, <span class="verse-num">(27) </span>and give no opportunity to the devil. <span class="verse-num">Eph 4:26-27</span><br />
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<span class="verse-num">10.  </span><span class="verse-num"></span>Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear. <span class="verse-num">Eph 4:29</span><br />
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<span class="verse-num">11.  </span><span class="verse-num"></span>Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. <span class="verse-num">Eph 4:31</span><br />
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<span class="verse-num">12.  </span>Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.  Eph 4:32</p>
<p>13.  <span class="verse-num-woc"></span><span class="woc">So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.  Matt 7:12</span></p>
<p><span class="verse-num"></span>*All references are from the ESV.</p></blockquote>
<p>I pray that our blogging will be glorifying to God!</p>
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		<title>Of the Father&#8217;s Love Begotten</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This past Lord&#8217;s Day we sang a hymn a cappella called Of the Father&#8217;s Love Begotten. Besides being a particularly beautiful tune (in spite of my singing a cappella) and having glorious theology wonderfully phrased in english, it has an impressive history. I&#8217;ve been reading ahead for next semester in some of the courses for [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=172&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This past Lord&#8217;s Day we sang a hymn <em>a cappella</em> called <em>Of the Father&#8217;s Love Begotten</em>.  Besides being a particularly beautiful tune (in spite of my singing <em>a cappella</em>) and having glorious theology wonderfully phrased in english, it has an impressive history.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading ahead for next semester in some of the courses for which I am registered.   One required text is Mark Noll&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Turning-Points-Decisive-Moments-Christianity/dp/080106211X/sr=8-1/qid=1166625945/ref=sr_1_1/104-7445708-2711101?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books"><em>Turning Points: Decisive Moments in the History of Christianity</em></a>.  Through the first quarter of the text, it is delightful &#8211; and I expect the rest to follow suit.  Regardless, the third chapter is introduced with a poem written by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurelius_Clemens_Prudentius">Aurelius Clemens Prudentius</a> of the same title as our hymn.  Clearly the hymn&#8217;s forebear is this ancient poem.  Compare the two, and consider that we&#8217;re singing the same praise that was lifted up 1600 yrs ago.<br />
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Prudentius&#8217; version, as shown in Noll:</p>
<blockquote><p>Of the Father&#8217;s love begotten<br />
Ere the worlds began to be,<br />
He is Alpha nd Omega,<br />
He the source, the ending he,<br />
Of the things that are, that have been,<br />
And that future years shall see.<br />
Evermore and evermore.</p>
<p>O that birth for ever blessed!<br />
When the Virgin, full of grace,<br />
By the Holy Ghost conceiving,<br />
Bore the Saviour of our race;<br />
And the Babe, the world&#8217;s Redeemer,<br />
First revealed his sacred face,<br />
Evermore and evermore.</p>
<p>O ye heights of heaven, adore him;<br />
Angel hosts, his praises sing;<br />
Powers, dominions bow before him,<br />
And extol our God and King;<br />
Let no tongue on earth be silent,<br />
Every voice in concert ring,<br />
Evermore and Evermore.</p></blockquote>
<p>Modern Version:</p>
<blockquote><p>Of the Father&#8217;s love begotten, ere the worlds began to be,<br />
He is Alpha and Omega, He the source, the ending He,<br />
Of the things that are, that have been,<br />
And that future years shall see, evermore and evermore!</p>
<p>This is He Whom heav&#8217;n-taught singers sang of old with one accord;<br />
Whom the Scriptures of the prophets promised in their faithful word;<br />
Now He shines, the long expected,<br />
Let creation praise its Lord, evermore and evermore!</p>
<p>O ye heights of heaven adore Him; angel hosts, His praises sing;<br />
All dominions, bow before Him, and extol our God and King!<br />
Let no tongue on earth be silent,<br />
Every voice in concert ring, evermore and evermore!</p>
<p>Christ, to Thee with God the Father, and, O Holy Ghost, to Thee,<br />
Hymn and chant with high thanksgiving, and unwearied praises be:<br />
Honor, glory, and dominion,<br />
And eternal victory, evermore and evermore!</p></blockquote>
<p>The point for which Noll used this poem was illustrating the Christological view hammered out at the council of Chalcedon.  I guess I don&#8217;t give my elders enough credit, as the sermon this week was on Colossians 2:9-10, and emphasised the (orthodox) Chalcedonian view of the hypostatic union!  Go to the sermon for 12/17/2006 <a href="http://www.communityefc.org/html/preaching/indexmp3_year2006.php">here</a>.  And you thought us Protestants paid no attention to church history&#8230; <a href="http://www.communityefc.org/html/preaching/indexmp3_year2006.php"> </a></p>
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		<title>Geomagnetic Storm</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If anyone has been keeping up with the news you would have known that a coronal mass ejection has begun hitting the earth.  So what&#8217;s the big deal? Well, for those of you in the Northern regions of the United States this could provide a chance to see the Auroa Borealis (Northern Lights).  The further [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=171&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone has been keeping up with the <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,236520,00.html" target="_blank" title="Geomagnetic Storm">news</a> you would have known that a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronal_mass_ejection" title="Coronal Mass Ejection" target="_blank">coronal mass ejection</a> has begun hitting the earth.  So what&#8217;s the big deal?</p>
<p>Well, for those of you in the Northern regions of the United States this could provide a chance to see the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_borealis" title="Auroa Borealis">Auroa Borealis</a> (Northern Lights).  The further north you are the better shot you have of seeing this phenomenon.  According to the forecast found on the <a href="http://www.gedds.alaska.edu/auroraforecast/" title="Geophysical Institute" target="_blank">Geophysical Institute</a> website you may be able see it overhead as far south as Minneapolis and on the horizon as far south as Chicago.  A comment from the forecaster also suggest a chance of seeing it into the middle sections of the U.S.</p>
<p>For those of us in the Lafayette, IN area the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-index" title="Kp index">Kp </a>index must be between 7 and 9 to see the auroa.  This <a href="http://sec.noaa.gov/Aurora/globeNW.html" title="Kp Map">map</a> shows the U.S. and where each Kp indexes needs to be for your area to see the lights.  To check out a short term forecast of the Kp index <a href="http://www.gedds.alaska.edu/auroraforecast/ShortTerm.asp" title="Short Term Kp Forecast">this site</a> may be useful.</p>
<p>For best chance at veiwing I would suggest to get as far away from city lights as you can.  Let me know if you see the lights?</p>
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		<title>Gifts for Guys</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/gifts-for-guys/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A brother at church sent me this link as a gift idea for the bibliophile who appreciates fine furniture. Also, I saw this link from JT today to CJ Mahaney&#8217;s guy gift ideas. I think it is interesting as a window into who he is more than anything else.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=169&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A brother at church sent me this <a href="http://www.nobodyandco.it/sito/inglese/the%20bibliochaise.html">link</a> as a gift idea for the bibliophile who appreciates fine furniture.</p>
<p>Also, I saw this <a href="girltalk.blogs.com/girltalk/2006/12/cjs_gift_ideas_.html">link</a> from <a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com">JT</a> today to CJ Mahaney&#8217;s guy gift ideas.  I think it is interesting as a window into who he is more than anything else.</p>
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		<title>Edwards Quote</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/12/11/edwards-quote/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got to finish Jonathan Edwards&#8217; sermon The Excellency of Christ today. Edwards unpacks something of the &#8220;admirable conjunction of diverse excellencies in Jesus Christ&#8221;, and goes on to give us application to them. Consider this juicy quote: One design of God in the gospel is to bring us to make God the object of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=168&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got to finish Jonathan Edwards&#8217; sermon <em>The Excellency of Christ</em> today.  Edwards unpacks something of the &#8220;admirable conjunction of diverse excellencies in Jesus Christ&#8221;, and goes  on to give us application to them.</p>
<p>Consider this juicy quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>One design of God in the gospel is to bring us to make God the object of our undivided respect, that he may engross our regard [in] every way, that watever natural inclination there is in our souls, he may be the center of it; that God may be all in all.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can read it for free <a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/edwards/sermons/files/excellency.html">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Misquoting Jesus Review</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/12/07/misquoting-jesus-review/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In case you aren&#8217;t aware of it, check out the Christian Research Institute Journal webpage. The journal is producing some good stuff that we should be reading. Consider for instance Daniel B. Wallace&#8217;s review of Misquoting Jesus by Bart Ehrman. With all the media hype and parroting of liberal arguements against the Scriptures today, reviews [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=167&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you aren&#8217;t aware of it, check out the <a href="http://www.equip.org/journal/index.asp">Christian Research Institute Journal</a> webpage. The journal is producing some good stuff that we should be reading.  Consider for instance <a href="http://www.equip.org/free/JAB111.pdf">Daniel B. Wallace&#8217;s review</a> of <em>Misquoting Jesus</em> by Bart Ehrman.  With all the media hype and parroting of liberal arguements against the Scriptures today, reviews like this one are a necessary read as we share with friends, family, and neighbors.</p>
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		<title>Pastor&#8217;s Conference</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/12/01/pastors-conference/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 23:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mikeb</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is anyone interested in going to Desiring God&#8217;s Pastor&#8217;s Conference?  I don&#8217;t know all the details about who is &#8220;allowed&#8221; to go but my understanding is that if you are training for Pastoral ministry, one could attend.  I am entertaining the thought given the topic!  (not that they ever disappoint)  Just a thought!<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=166&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anyone interested in going to Desiring God&#8217;s Pastor&#8217;s Conference?  I don&#8217;t know all the details about who is &#8220;allowed&#8221; to go but my understanding is that if you are training for Pastoral ministry, one could attend.  I am entertaining the thought given the topic!  (not that they ever disappoint)  Just a thought!</p>
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		<title>Anecdotal Pair</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[2 Hilarious things to share: First, my ten year-old brother informed me that he was joining a band: Bro: I&#8217;m joining a band. Me: Really! What instrument are you playing? Bro: The triangle. Actually, the Electric Triangle. [Followed by guitar distortion sounds produced from brother's mouth, alongside the striking of an "air triangle."] &#8211; Secondly, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=165&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 Hilarious things to share:</p>
<p>First, my ten year-old brother informed me that he was joining a band:</p>
<p>Bro: I&#8217;m joining a band.</p>
<p>Me: Really!  What instrument are you playing?</p>
<p>Bro: The triangle.  Actually, the <em>Electric </em>Triangle.  [Followed by guitar distortion sounds produced from brother's mouth, alongside the striking of an "air triangle."]</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>Secondly, I&#8217;ve been growing a beard.  Rather, I&#8217;ve attempted a beard for a good 6 weeks or so.  Today at work, a coworker (honestly) asked me if I was <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish">Amish</a>.   Bear in mind that I am a type of software engineer.</p>
<p>I informed her that in my cubicle I have a wooden laptop.</p>
<p>When pressed, I mentioned that I &#8220;used to be, but just wasn&#8217;t plain enough for them.&#8221;  We&#8217;ll see how far this goes.</p>
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		<title>Justifincriminating Evidence</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/11/28/justifincriminating-evidence/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bryanr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe a few of you are entrenched in the NPP battle, using those Holy Ghost Machine Guns for good. Maybe, like me, you hear a bit about it but read and understand only a little. I have been spending some time thinking about Luke 18:9-14 in preparation for a talk. This passage is one of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=164&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe a few of you are entrenched in the NPP battle, using those Holy Ghost Machine Guns for good.  Maybe, like me, you hear a bit about it but read and understand only a little.  I have been spending some time thinking about Luke 18:9-14 in preparation for a talk.  This passage is one of those scary and amazing parables, depending which character you relate with.  I also recently listened to a <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Sermons/ByDate/2006/1773_This_Man_Went_Down_to_His_House_Justified/">Piper sermon</a> on it (&#8220;<em>This man went down to his house justified</em>&#8220;) .  I find his thoughts on this passage intriguing and directly relevant to NPP.</p>
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<blockquote><p>He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: 10 “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘<strong>God, I thank you</strong> that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ 13 But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ 14 <strong>I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other.</strong> For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”  <strong>Luke 18:9-14 (ESV)</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Piper argues that the Pharisee was NOT a Legalist (my previous understanding), because he is thanking God for his own &#8220;righteousness&#8221; and not seeking to earn favor with God on his own merit.  Excerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p>He is not presented as a legalist—one who tries to earn his salvation. That is not the issue. One thing is the issue: This man was morally upright. He was religiously devout. He believed God had made him so. He gave thanks for it. <strong>And that is what he looked to and trusted in for his righteousness before God—for his justification. And he was dead wrong</strong>. (emphasis added)</p></blockquote>
<p>The idea that this man rightfully thanked God for working in his life, looking to God as the means to his right living and yet went home UNJUSTIFIED (verse 14)  is fascinating, perplexing, and terrifying.  The problem is not that his morality or religion are wrong, but that these works of righteousness are insufficient for salvation and leave him condemned in the Judgement.</p>
<p>This is of coarse the problem with removing the imputation.  A problem that Piper clearly explains in the rest of the sermon.   No matter how &#8220;righteous&#8221; you are, how much &#8220;good&#8221; is in your life even by God&#8217;s provision, Justification is on the BASIS OF CHRIST ALONE!</p>
<p>The summary: <span style="font-weight:bold;">make sure you bring the right currency to the judgement</span>.  I can&#8217;t hear this message enough.  Just thought you might enjoy reading or listening to it if you have time.  I would be interested in any discussion on the implications this Pharisee&#8217;s view would have on Christian Living &#8211; What does it look like to trust in yourself?</p>
<p>Peace</p>
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		<title>Dream of Another Day</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 03:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go watch <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gKV7R7RBnk">this video</a> now.  Then go <a href="http://www.serve-im.org/home">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>sanctity of marriage, nah, that&#8217;s in the past</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mikeb</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tend to read alot of news on a variety of subjects, perhaps it is a waste (especially in the case of ridiculous articles) but I want to be culturally relevant in some sense and thus I find lunacy such as this&#8230; http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,228107,00.html?sPage=fnc.foxlife/spears Did you catch that?  Britney&#8217;s divorce is a good business decision AND [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=161&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to read alot of news on a variety of subjects, perhaps it is a waste (especially in the case of ridiculous articles) but I want to be culturally relevant in some sense and thus I find lunacy such as this&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,228107,00.html?sPage=fnc.foxlife/spears">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,228107,00.html?sPage=fnc.foxlife/spears</a></p>
<p>Did you catch that?  Britney&#8217;s divorce is a good business decision AND it will allow her to return to her charitable ways.  Well in that case&#8230;it MUST be good.  As long as we can break our vows for the good of humanity we are in the clear, in fact, it may make more sense for us to do so. </p>
<p> Very, very, very sad indeed.</p>
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		<title>Attack of the &#8230; Sea Lion?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading this article, I think it could make a great movie based off of the Jaws premise. Just picture the duh dah, duh dah, duh dah, duh dah (speed up after each phrase) then seeing a huge giant sea lion with cute whiskers staring you down as a tasty snack? Ohh the possibilites &#8230;<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=160&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,229891,00.html" target="_blank" title="Revenge of the Sea Lion">this</a> article, I think it could make a great movie based off of the Jaws premise.  Just picture the duh dah, duh dah, duh dah, duh dah (speed up after each phrase) then seeing a huge giant sea lion with cute whiskers staring you down as a tasty snack?  Ohh the possibilites &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Sola Scriptura Seminar</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On December 1st Eric Nielsen and I are headed to St. Charles, MO for some Sola Scriptura Action with Dr. James White! Topics to be discussed are the doctrine of &#8220;Sola Scriptura&#8221; as well as the sufficiency of Scripture in the light of some modern Roman Catholic approaches. If you are interested in joining us, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=159&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On December 1st <a href="http://www.agent000.com">Eric Nielsen</a> and I are headed to St. Charles, MO for some <a href="http://covenantofgracechurch.org/modules/tinycontent1/">Sola Scriptura Action</a> with <a href="http://www.aomin.org">Dr. James White</a>!  Topics to be discussed are the doctrine of &#8220;Sola Scriptura&#8221; as well as the sufficiency of Scripture in the light of some modern Roman Catholic approaches.</p>
<p>If you are interested in joining us, please contact me (mark dot 5pointers &#8216;at sign&#8217; gmail dot com) ASAP as we are arranging hotel accomodations and travel times.  The details of the seminar can be retrieved <a href="http://covenantofgracechurch.org/modules/tinycontent1/">here</a>.</p>
<p>Our current plan is to head down Friday, December 1st, during the afternoon.  We&#8217;ll be coming back in time for Sunday morning worship in Urbana.</p>
<p>Costs are solely: food, shared gas, and shared lodging.</p>
<p>Let me know if you are interested via the comments or my email address!</p>
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		<title>Social Commentary for Dummies</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all have to deal with it in the internet age: SPAM. It&#8217;s constant, it&#8217;s annoying, and it&#8217;s frequently offensive or downright sinful. Not only has spam changed the way we use email, it has garnered a major software industry and federal legislation. But something that I noticed today as I went in to to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=152&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2006/11/spamcans-s1.jpg" title="spamcans-s1.jpg"><img src="https://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2006/11/spamcans-s1.thumbnail.jpg?w=510" alt="spamcans-s1.jpg" align="left" /></a>We all have to deal with it in the internet age: SPAM.  It&#8217;s constant, it&#8217;s annoying, and it&#8217;s frequently offensive or downright sinful.  Not only has spam changed the way we use email, it has garnered a major software industry and federal legislation.<span id="more-152"></span></p>
<p>But something that I noticed today as I went in to to delete the filtered advert spam, was a new use or benefit of spam.  You see, advertisers are selling products in ways that appeal to people&#8217;s needs and desires, right?  I posit that the more clear the connection between product and benefits, the more likely a customer will purchase said product.  Not surprisingly, most spam is aimed at private desires and deep seeded needs.  The good thing about this is the window it provides to what advertisers think is the desire of the modern american heart.</p>
<p>What do people want, truly?  More money, more stuff, nicer stuff, better sex lives, US citizenship, prestige (through degrees, cars, aforementioned stuff), etc.  The constant stream of spam is a ticker-tape of the american heart.  Sadly, the barometer of human desire does not indicate a rising of affections to God.</p>
<p>Fortunately I am not bombarded with <em>Theological and Puritan Book Spam</em>, as I would probably max out our credit card in a day&#8230;  but I digress.</p>
<p>I suppose the point I&#8217;m getting at is how, if we are not tempted by the spam, we can use it as social commentary.  Advertisers are doing thier darndest to sell stuff to people, and they aim at the heart.  They are doing my work for me!  If I want to know what&#8217;s on my neighbor&#8217;s mind, I could get a clue from just looking through the spam.  And this is somehow noteworthy to me and valuable enough to share, go figure!</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
<p>After I wrote this I popped over to Amazon and looked at thier <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/ref=pd_ts_h/104-7445708-2711101">25 top selling books</a> (which updates every hour,) currently they are:</p>
<p align="center"><em>You:      On A Diet: The Owner&#8217;s Manual for Waist Management </em><br />
by Michael F. Roizen, Mehmet C. Oz</p>
<p align="center"> <em>The      God Delusion </em><br />
by Richard Dawkins</p>
<p align="center"> <em>The      Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream </em><br />
by Barack Obama</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Cross </em><br />
by James Patterson</p>
<p align="center"> <em>The      Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town      </em><br />
by John Grisham</p>
<p align="center"> <em>For      One More Day</em><br />
by Mitch Albom</p>
<p align="center"> <em>I Like      You: Hospitality Under the Influence </em><br />
by Amy Sedaris</p>
<p align="center"> <em>The      End (A Series of Unfortunate Events, Book 13) </em><br />
by Lemony Snicket, Brett Helquist (Illustrator)</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Joy of      Cooking: 75th Anniversary Edition &#8211; 2006 </em><br />
by Irma S. Rombauer, Marion Rombauer Becker, Ethan Becker</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Martha      Stewart&#8217;s Homekeeping Handbook: The Essential Guide to Caring for      Everything in Your</em> <em>Home</em><br />
by Martha Stewart</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Wild      Fire </em><br />
by Nelson DeMille</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Culture      Warrior </em><br />
by Bill O&#8217;Reilly</p>
<p align="center"> <em>YOU:      The Owner&#8217;s Manual: An Insider&#8217;s Guide to the Body that Will Make You      Healthier and</em> <em>Younger</em><br />
by Michael F. Roizen, Mehmet Oz</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Dear      John </em><br />
by Nicholas Sparks</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Living      Divine Relationships </em><br />
by Zhi Gang Sha</p>
<p align="center"> <em>The      Shape Shifter (Joe Leaphorn/Jim Chee Novels) </em><br />
by Tony Hillerman</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Marley      &amp; Me: Life and Love with the World&#8217;s Worst Dog </em><br />
by John Grogan</p>
<p align="center"> <em>State      of Denial:      Bush at War, Part III </em><br />
by Bob Woodward</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Nature      Girl </em><br />
by Carl Hiaasen</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Lisey&#8217;s      Story </em><br />
by Stephen King</p>
<p align="center"> <em>A      Photographer&#8217;s Life: 1990-2005 </em><br />
by Annie Leibovitz (Photographer)</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Letter      to a Christian Nation </em><br />
by Sam Harris</p>
<p align="center"> <em>America      Alone: The End of the World as We Know It </em><br />
by Mark Steyn</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Next </em><br />
by Michael Crichton</p>
<p align="center"> <em>The      World Is Flat [Updated and Expanded]: A Brief History of the Twenty-first      Century </em><br />
by Thomas L. Friedman</p>
<p>Truly a pretty depressing lot.  However, I find this to be another social barometer, if you will.  While I think the only one I&#8217;d care to read is <em>Morley and Me</em> or maybe <em>The End</em>, but what do you glean from this list?  What does this tell us about the American population?  (Assuming Amazon.com customers accurately represent the American population.)</p>
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		<title>Get Help, Get Healing</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you suffering right now? We all are. Purgatorio has been down for 4 days! 4 DAYS! To help the hurting, I&#8217;m posting this link to a cached view of Purgatorio dated Nov. 6th, 2006. I hope that this will help you manage the headaches, dizziness, boredom, fear, manic depression, fits of rage, and panic [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=158&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you suffering right now?  We all are.  <a href="http://purgatorio1.com">Purgatorio</a> has been down for 4 days! 4 DAYS!</p>
<p>To help the hurting, I&#8217;m posting this <a href="http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:jOw0ELaT8qUJ:purgatorio1.com/+purgatorio&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;client=firefox-a">link to a cached view of Purgatorio dated Nov. 6th, 2006.</a>  I hope that this will help you manage the headaches, dizziness, boredom, fear, manic depression, fits of rage, and panic attacks that may have afflicted you as Heinrich&#8217;s comedic genius has been absent over the last several days.</p>
<p>Do not fear little one.  Either Purgatorio will return, or a new Satirical Prophet will arise in Blogisrael.</p>
<p><em><strong>Update:</strong></em>  Speculation is rampant in many quarters that either a.) the Rapture already happened OR b.) we all have (unbeknownst to us) recieved an indefinate <em>Get Out of Purgatorio Free</em> card or c.) Marc&#8217;s server is down.  Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>On Writing</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot recently about blogging and why I blog, and the benefit(s) (if any?) gained thereby. Today I was encouraged to find two articles spurring me in the very motive with which I began blogging, now almost a year on. Writing. I need practice, and the blog is an easy place to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=155&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot recently about blogging and why I blog, and the benefit(s) (if any?) gained thereby.  Today I was encouraged to find two articles spurring me in the very motive with which I began blogging, now almost a year on.</p>
<p><em>Writing</em>.  I need practice, and the blog is an easy place to do so.  Well, here are two posts that should encourage you in it; <a href="http://www.jesuscreed.org/?p=1659">here</a> and <a href="http://euangelizomai.blogspot.com/2006/11/reflection-on-scot-mcknights-recent.html">here</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Reading makes a full man; speaking makes a ready man; writing makes an exact man.&#8221; ~Francis Bacon</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Election Comfort from Daniel and Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After feeling some discomfort with the results of this week&#8217;s election a couple of passages have provided some much needed encouragement, comfort, and truth to my heart. &#8220;21 He changes times and seasons; he removes kings and sets up kings; he gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who have understanding; 22 he [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=153&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">After feeling some discomfort with the results of this week&#8217;s election a couple of passages have provided some much needed encouragement, comfort, and truth to my heart.</p>
<p>  &#8220;21 He changes times and seasons;<br />
<span class="indent"></span>he removes kings and sets up kings;<br />
he gives wisdom to the wise<br />
<span class="indent"></span>and knowledge to those who have understanding;<br />
<span class="verse-num">22 </span>he reveals deep and hidden things;<br />
<span class="indent"></span>he knows what is in the darkness,<br />
<span class="indent"></span>and the light dwells with him.&#8221;<br />
Daniel 2:21-22</p>
<p>&#8220;1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. <span class="verse-num">2 </span>Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.&#8221;<br />
Romans 13:1-2</p>
<p>I am very thankful that we have a sovereign Lord!</p>
<p>Random thought that just brought about a chuckle&#8230;<br />
Who said, &#8220;Elected because I selected?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Grab Bag</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s some blogspotting and interesting stuff: Desiring God has a &#8220;Taste and See&#8221; article up by Dr. John Piper: Why Vote If you are Disillisioned? I found it encouraging and interesting as someone who has consistantly not voted due to lack of confidence in all participants. (I have a stellar record of inactivity &#8211; 6 [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=151&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s some blogspotting and interesting stuff:</p>
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<li>Desiring God has a &#8220;Taste and See&#8221; article up by Dr. John Piper: <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/TasteAndSee/ByDate/2004/1272_Why_Vote_If_You_Are_Disillusioned/"><em>Why Vote If you are Disillisioned?</em></a> I found it encouraging and interesting as someone who has consistantly not voted due to lack of confidence in all participants.  (I have a stellar record of inactivity &#8211; 6 years of voting eligibility and Zero votes cast for anything outside of College Dorm councils&#8230;not something to be proud of.)  Yes, I am going to the polls tomorrow, and I encourage you to do so as well.  Check out this article by Piper on the matter, and if you are in IL, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_statewide_office_elections%2C_2006">this</a> might be useful too.</li>
<li>The Evangelical Textual Criticism blog interviewed Dr. Bart Ehrman <a href="http://evangelicaltextualcriticism.blogspot.com/2006/09/interview-with-bart-ehrman.html">here</a>.  Dr. James White has interacted with some of Ehrman&#8217;s material on the DL and in posts like <a href="https://www.aomin.org/index.php?itemid=1210">this one</a>.</li>
<li>Just up the road in Chicago is the University of Chicago&#8217;s Oriental Institute <a href="http://oi.uchicago.edu/OI/MUS/OI_Museum.html">Museum</a>.  Anyone interested in an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Near_East">ANE</a> fieldtrip in the next couple of months?  I&#8217;m going to try to make it up to Chicago around &#8220;New Years&#8221;, it would be a great place to rendezvous and and opportunity to learn!</li>
<li>Spring Courses are <a href="http://www.urbanaseminary.org/academic_courses_spring.html">online at UTS</a> for those who are interested.</li>
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		<title>Faith and Culture Lecture</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/11/03/faith-and-culture-lecture/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Urbana Theological Seminary&#8216;s Annual Faith and Culture Lecture is this Saturday (11/04/06) at University Baptist Church, 1300 to 1600hrs. Pursuing Methuselah: A Theological Response to Anti-Aging Science will be presented by Assistant Professor of Theology at UTS, Todd Daly. The lecture will be followed by a panel discussion featuring: George Pyle, Three Hierarchs Greek Orthodox [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=150&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.urbanaseminary.org/">Urbana Theological Seminary</a>&#8216;s Annual <em>Faith and Culture Lecture</em> is this Saturday (11/04/06) at <a href="http://www.bsfui.org/bsf_church.html">University Baptist Church</a>, 1300 to 1600hrs.</p>
<p><strong><em>Pursuing Methuselah: A Theological Response to Anti-Aging Science</em></strong> will be presented by Assistant Professor of Theology at <a href="http://www.urbanaseminary.org/">UTS</a>, Todd Daly.</p>
<p>The lecture will be followed by a panel discussion featuring:</p>
<p>George Pyle, <a href="http://www.threehierarchs.org/">Three Hierarchs Greek Orthodox Church</a></p>
<p>Christine A Weaver, Phsician and Geneticist, <a href="http://www.carle.com/">Carle Clinic Association</a></p>
<p>David Delaney, Scholar at the <a href="http://www.sjcnc.org/">Newman Institue of Catholic Thought</a></p>
<p>I hope you can come as it should be an interesting and stimulating lecture and discussion!</p>
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		<title>Reviewing Romans 6:7</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In case you missed it, or have already fogotten about it, Pastor Mike kind of shook up the whole world with his sermon on Romans 6:5-10. I was doing a little looking at Romans 6:7, and specifically at this whole &#8220;freed&#8221; vs. &#8220;justified&#8221; translation issue. This is critical because it really shapes our reading of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=149&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you missed it, or have already fogotten about it, Pastor Mike kind of shook up the whole world with his sermon on Romans 6:5-10.  I was doing a little looking at Romans 6:7, and specifically at this whole &#8220;freed&#8221; vs. &#8220;justified&#8221; <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/can-i-get-another-witness/">translation issue</a>.  This is critical because it really shapes our reading of the following verses and our understanding the relationship of our hearts to sin.</p>
<p>I started with the english translations and how they render this verse.  The grossest offender that I saw was the <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans%206:7;&amp;version=51;">NLT</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>For when we died with Christ we were set free from the power of sin.</p></blockquote>
<p>As opposed  to the ESV (footnoted) translation:</p>
<blockquote><p>For one who has died has been justified from sin.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans%206:7;&amp;version=53;">Wycliffe </a>got it right though:</p>
<blockquote><p>For he that is dead [<em>to sin</em>], is justified from sin.</p></blockquote>
<p>Also of interest is the Greek used here.  Even if you don&#8217;t know anything about Greek, check out the parsed version at Zhubert.com, <a href="http://www.zhubert.com/bible?source=greek&amp;verseref=romans+6%3A7">here</a>.  Just run your mouse over the terms to get the parsing and a definition.  Of course the word is shaped by the context, but this isn&#8217;t an exegisis paper, we&#8217;re just perusing the Greek.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Pride, Impatience, and Faith</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark Dever at the Together for the Gospel blog posted on pride being a root of impatience. My tendency is to be patient in situations I like. And that&#8217;s no patience! Patience is endurance through things that challenge us, and it is rooted in humility, as surely as my impatience is rooted in pride. This [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=141&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Dever at the Together for the Gospel blog <a href="http://blog.togetherforthegospel.org/2006/10/pride_as_impati.html">posted</a> on pride being a root of impatience.</p>
<blockquote><p>My tendency is to be patient in situations I like.  And that&#8217;s no patience!  Patience is endurance through things that challenge us, and it is rooted in humility, as surely as my impatience is rooted in pride.</p></blockquote>
<p>This reminded me of John Piper&#8217;s chapter in Future Grace  on patience.  Here&#8217;s a snapshot of Piper&#8217;s connection between faith and patience:</p>
<blockquote><p>Patience is the evidence of an inner strength&#8230;That is why Paul is praying for the Colossians.  He is asking God to empower them for the patient endurance that the Christian life requires.  But when he says that the strength of patience is &#8220;according to [God's] glorious might&#8221; he doesn&#8217;t just mean that it takes divine power to make a person patient.  He means that faith in this glorious might is the channel through which the power of patience comes.(<em>Future Grace</em> pg. 173)</p></blockquote>
<p>Things to think about as we confess our pride and plead for faith today.</p>
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		<title>Reformation Day Wrap-Up</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/10/31/reformation-day-wrap-up/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today is Reformation Day, and so it seems fitting to post the party pic, and link you to Jadeejf&#8217;s post on it here. (I had always thought it was JadeElf, but it&#8217;s ejf. I&#8217;m geekier than I thought&#8230;) I think everyone had a good time and learned something, if not about the reformation and Luther, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=146&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today is Reformation Day, and so it seems fitting to post the party pic, and link you to Jadeejf&#8217;s post on it <a href="http://jadeejf.livejournal.com/666867.html" target="_blank">here</a>.  (I had always thought it was Jade<em>Elf</em>, but it&#8217;s <em>ejf</em>.  I&#8217;m geekier than I thought&#8230;)  I think everyone had a good time and learned something, if not about the reformation and Luther, than about each other &#8211; specifically Nat.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/reformationdayparty.JPG" title="Reformation Day Party"><img src="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/reformationdayparty.JPG?w=510" alt="Reformation Day Party" /></a></p>
<p>Some other cool Reformation day items are this <a href="http://www.agent000.com/item/67">post</a> by ENielsen, this <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/thoughts-on-halloween/#comment-977">post</a> by Isaiah543, these <a href="http://cavman.wordpress.com/2006/10/25/reformation-sunday-justification/" target="_blank">Justification book recommendations</a>, <a href="http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/history/95theses.htm" target="_blank">the 95 theses</a>, and here&#8217;s the <a href="https://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/reformationdayresouces_w_95theses.pdf" title="Resource Sheet and 95 Theses">Resource Sheet and 95 Theses</a> from the party if you are interested (in PDF).<br />
Finally, the trivia question we couldn&#8217;t answer, and I hope you answer in the comments is: In what language were Luther&#8217;s originally posted theses?  (German? Latin? <strike>Engligh?</strike> ah, yeah, citation requested!)  Oh, and if you think of it, what is your favorite thesis?  Mine is #62.  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Political Fact Check</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t like political controversy and campaigning and all of that, but I do think this political fact check looks like something to keep at the ready in our browsers. I think it wouldn&#8217;t be necessary if we had more robust political discourse (i.e. not just sound bite politics.) But with all the mudslinging I&#8217;ve [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=145&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like political controversy and <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6085922.stm" target="_blank">campaigning</a> and all of that, but I do think this <a href="http://factcheck.org" target="_blank">political fact check</a> looks like something to keep at the ready in our browsers.  I think it wouldn&#8217;t be necessary if we had more robust political discourse (i.e. not just sound bite politics.)  But with all the mudslinging I&#8217;ve seen in my local state senate race (yeah, <em>state</em>), this looks like a good thing to know about and check back to.</p>
<p>Also, Justin Taylor <a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2006/10/closest-thing-to-spending-hour-with.html" target="_blank">posted a link</a> to a presidential interview on foriegn policy that was very interesting.  We could have a lot of commentary on this, but I&#8217;ll see what develops.</p>
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		<title>Window on the Modern Jewish Soul</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/10/26/window-on-the-modern-jewish-soul/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife and I recently watched &#8220;Crimes and Misdemeanors&#8221;, a Woody Allen film. Below I&#8217;ve left some things I&#8217;ve noted as they relate to God and ethics. I found the film hilarious at times, heartbreaking at others, and insightful throughout. Sadly, what Allen needs most, Allen misses most. The plot alternates between two Jewish men, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=142&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I recently watched &#8220;Crimes and Misdemeanors&#8221;, a Woody Allen film.  Below I&#8217;ve left some things I&#8217;ve noted as they relate to God and ethics.  I found the film hilarious at times, heartbreaking at others, and insightful throughout.  Sadly, what Allen needs most, Allen misses most.</p>
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The plot alternates between two Jewish men, Woody Allen and Martin Landau playing Clifford Stern and Judah Rosenthal respectively.  Clif is a struggling, idealistic, documentary film maker while Judah is a successful, philandering, opthamalogist.  The film follows thier seperate exploits concluding with them attending the same party and a dialogue recapping Judah&#8217;s struggles &#8211; as a pitch for a new film.  Like I said, interesting and challenging, and probably due for another viewing in a few years.  So here are my random thoughts (topics marked by &#8216;~&#8217;.)</p>
<p>~One of Clif&#8217;s brothers-in-law is a rabbi who argueably has the most biblical worldview in the picture.  But he goes blind.  Is Allen saying in some hamfisted way that the rabbi is blind to reality? Is Allen saying that the rabbi is the one who really sees &#8211; showing spiritual insight through physical seperation?  I&#8217;m given to think the former, judging by the rest of the film.  Regardless, an interesting presentation.</p>
<p>~Immorality blooms in the fields of self focus and rationalization (relativism.) Incredibly Clif asks a collegue to marry him while he is struggling through the last throws of his current unhappy marriage. Everybody is meeting somebody and giving up on thier marriages it seems &#8211; aside from Judah who from self-preservation orders the murder of his mistress to keep his wife in the dark. Repeatedly throughout the film I found myself thinking: &#8220;If you didn&#8217;t have an affair in the first place, you wouldn&#8217;t be in this crisis.&#8221; The little decisions set the course for the tectonic shifts! It is not crazy then for me to think in my own life, but it is very real.  The little things matter.</p>
<p>~In the midst of Judah&#8217;s soul searching (following his realized sins), he goes to his boyhood home.  Judah then enters a conversation at a past Seder, in which his aunt stresses the relative nature of morality and the absence of god (as illustrated by the holocaust &#8211; clearly there is no justice in the world&#8230;)  The religious Rosenthal patriarch argues that even if there is no god, it is still better to pursue him and live according to his statues so that one has some moral ground to stand on.  That is, apart from a revealed diety, life is meaningless.  Allen draws out the dialogue to the point that the elder Rosenthal is forced to say &#8220;Yes, if required I will choose god over the truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meanwhile the struggling Judah hears both sides that replay in his head from childhood.  The conversation concludes with the father stressing that the wicked will be punished.  This really looses it&#8217;s punch with Allen constantly suggesting that god is our intellectual and emotional placebo.</p>
<p>The resolution later in the film is that Judah shows he is dead to the god without, and only worships the god within.  He can live with the murder of his mistress, he is the center of the universe.  Clif laments &#8220;I don&#8217;t think anyone could live with that.&#8221;  Judah goes on living with it, claims &#8220;this is reality&#8221;, and it looks like the happily ever after.</p>
<p>~Taking in the sum of available arguements on morality and God, the film left me in the gloom of a false dichotomy between truth and God.  But the startling fact was that while Jesus&#8217; name was on everybody&#8217;s lips as an expression of surprise or dissent, no-one recognized him.  The fact that changes everything, that dominates the landscape of the discussion, is that the Son has been lifted up and illumines the truth of God, which is <em>the truth</em>. But the film presented the Jewish soul as lost between God&#8217;s denial (in the face of Holocaust induced doubt and suffering) on the one hand, and pandering to empty traditions on the other.  You&#8217;re either right and hopeless or happy and thoughtless.  This reminds me of something Tim Keller recently said at the DG conference: &#8220;The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both intellectually credible and existentially satisfying.&#8221;  Amen.</p>
<p>The answer for the athiest Jew or the &#8220;faithful&#8221; Jew is found in Christ. What the Jews have missed for a time, and (professing) athiests dismiss, and christians too quickly forget, is that Christ is risen and is Supreme in all things.</p>
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		<title>Cage Match:  Paul vs James</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law. Romans 3:28 (ESV) VS. You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. James 2:24 (ESV) OK, which verse wins the match? Hmm&#8230; I think I&#8217;m going with&#8230; This week with my small group at [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=143&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:center;font-weight:bold;font-family:Arial;">   <font size="2">For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.<br />
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<p style="text-align:center;font-family:Arial;">   <font size="2"><span style="font-weight:bold;"> Romans 3:28 (ESV)</span><br />
<span style="font-weight:bold;">VS.</span><br />
<span style="font-weight:bold;">You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.<br />
James 2:24 (ESV)</span><br />
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OK, which verse wins the match? Hmm&#8230; I think I&#8217;m going with&#8230;<span id="more-143"></span></font></p>
<p><font size="2">This week with my small group at church we&#8217;re going over <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=James+2" target="blank_" title="14-26">James 2:14-26</a> . This section of James is a treasure trove that some have buried and sealed in a lack of understanding or thoughts of contradiction. Martin Luther wasn&#8217;t too keen on James as I&#8217;m sure others weren&#8217;t as well since it seems to go against Paul&#8217;s teaching. When most Christians (myself included) finish reading this section of James they are somewhat perplexed, especially if they&#8217;ve spent a lot of time in Paul&#8217;s letters, primarily Romans and Galatians. Nevertheless, Once you finish James multiple thoughts could be going through your mind, &#8220;What does he mean by faith with out works is dead&#8221; or &#8220;Is he talking about salvation by works&#8221; or &#8220;this isn&#8217;t what Paul meant by justification&#8221; or &#8220;does the bible contradict it&#8217;s self?&#8221; Without going into it too much I&#8217;m going to quickly rule out contradiction because we know that the Scriptures are pure (<a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=ps+12" target="blank_" title="6">Psalm 12:6</a> ), true (<a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=prov+30" target="blank_" title="5">Prov 30:5</a> ) and God breathed (<a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=2+tim+3" target="blank_" title="16">2 Tim 3:16</a> ). J. Gresham Machen says this about James not by faith alone statement, &#8220;But like other apparent contradictions in the Bible, it proves to be a contradiction merely of form and not of content; and it serves only to lead the devout reader into a deeper and fuller understanding of the truth.&#8221; Machen is accurate in his remarks about James. Ruling out contradiction then leads us to some type of paradox, one which some people [1] really want to understand or [2] have no desire to dive deeper into and ignore it all together. But there are some beautiful truths in James 2:14-26. Studying this has been helpful in giving me a better understanding of genuine faith and pure religion (<a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=James+1" target="blank_" title="27">James 1:27</a> ).<br />
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:Arial;text-align:left;">   <font size="2">14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? 17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. 18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! 20 Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; 23 and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God. 24 You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25 And in the same way was not also Rahab the prostitute justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? 26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead.<br />
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;">   <font size="2">James 2:14-26 (ESV)<br />
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<p><font size="2">I hope to include much from godly men of the past and present from here on out, who have been very helpful in not only affirming my thoughts but also taking it to another level. Here is how Calvin sees this <a href="http://www.reformed.org/master/index.html?mainframe=/books/institutes/" target="blank_" title="Calvins Institutes">section of James</a> :<br />
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<blockquote><p>   <font size="2">It appears certain that he is speaking of the manifestation, not of the imputation of righteousness, as if he had said, Those who are justified by true faith prove their justification by obedience and good works, not by a bare and imaginary semblance of faith. In one word, he is not discussing the mode of justification, but requiring that the justification of believers shall be operative. And as Paul contends that men are justified without the aid of works, so James will not allow any to be regarded as justified who are destitute of good works. Due attention to the scope will thus disentangle every doubt; for the error of our opponents lies chiefly in this, that they think James is defining the mode of justification, whereas his only object is to destroy the depraved security of those who vainly pretended faith as an excuse for their contempt of good works. Therefore, let them twist the words of James as they may, they will never extract out of them more than the two propositions: That an empty phantom of faith does not justify, and that the believer, not contented with such an imagination, manifests his justification by good works.</font></p></blockquote>
<p><font size="2">J. Gresham Machen describes this <a href="http://the-highway.com/faithandworks_Machen.html" target="blank_" title="Machen on Faith and Works">difficulty</a> as following:<br />
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<blockquote><p>   <font size="2">The solution of the difficulty appears in the definition of the word “faith.” The apparent contradiction is due simply to the fact that when James in this chapter says that “faith” alone is insufficient, he means a different thing by the word “faith” from that which Paul means by it when he says that faith is all-sufficient. The kind of faith which James is pronouncing insufficient is made clear in the nineteenth verse of the same chapter: “Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.” The kind of faith which James pronounces insufficient is the faith which the devils also have; it is a mere intellectual apprehension of the facts about God or Christ, and it involves no acceptance of those facts as a gift of God to one’s own soul. But it is not that kind of faith which Paul means when he says that a man is saved by faith alone. Faith is indeed intellectual; it involves an apprehension of certain things as facts; and vain is the modern effort to divorce faith from knowledge. But although faith is intellectual, it is not only intellectual. You cannot have faith without having knowledge; but you will not have faith if you have only knowledge.</font></p></blockquote>
<p><font size="2">C. H. Spurgeon says this in an excerpt from the <a href="http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/3434.htm" target="blank_" title="Fruitless Faith">sermon</a> <span style="font-style:italic;">Fruitless Faith,</span> he preached February 21st, 1861.<br />
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<blockquote><p>   <font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;"> What James does mean, however, is this, no doubt, in brief and short, that while faith saves, it is faith of a certain kind. No man is saved by persuading himself that he is saved; nobody is saved by believing Jesus Christ died for him. That may be, or may not be, true in the sense in which he understands it. In a certain sense Christ died for all men, but since it is evident that many men are lost, Christ&#8217;s dying for all men is not at all a ground upon which any man may hope to be saved. Christ died for some men in another sense, in a peculiar and special sense. No man has a right to believe that Christ peculiarly and specially died for him until he has an evidence of it in casting himself upon Christ, and trusting in Jesus, and bringing forth suitable works to evince the reality of his faith. The faith that saves is not a historical faith, not a faith that simply believes a creed and certain facts: I have no doubt devils are very orthodox; I do not know which church they belong to, though there are some in all churches; there was one in Christ&#8217;s Church when he was on earth, for he said one was filled with devils; and there are some in all churches. Devils believe all the facts of revelation. I do not believe they have a doubt; they have suffered too much from the hand of God to doubt his existence! They have felt too much the terror of his wrath to doubt the righteousness of his government. They are stern believers, but they are not saved; and such a faith, if it be in us, will not, cannot, save us, but will remain to all intents and purposes a dead, inoperative faith. It is a faith which produces works which saves us; the works do not save us; but a faith which does not produce works is a faith that will only deceive, and cannot lead us into heaven.</span></font></p></blockquote>
<p><font size="2">John Piper preached a <a href="http://http//www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Sermons/ByDate/1999/1085_Does_James_Contradict_Paul/" target="blank_" title="Does James Contradict Paul?">sermon</a> called <span style="font-style:italic;">Does James Contradict Paul </span>On August 8th, 1999 and here is a excerpt:<br />
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<p style="font-family:Arial;">   <font size="2"> Now that, I think, is what James was trying to get across to his churches. Loveless faith is absolutely useless; and anybody that comes along and says &#8220;We are justified by faith alone, and so you don&#8217;t have to be a loving person to go to heaven&#8221; is not telling the truth. </font></p>
<p style="font-family:Arial;">   <font size="2">Let&#8217;s see how James corrects this distortion of Paul&#8217;s teaching. Here&#8217;s where you have to watch out for words &#8211; what does James mean by the words he uses? Even when his words may seem to be in conflict with Paul, is the meaning in conflict? </font></p>
<p style="font-family:Arial;">   <font size="2">James&#8217; concern is with a kind of counterfeit faith that does not produce love. This faith cannot justify anybody. Verse 14: &#8220;What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him?&#8221; You see his concern. &#8220;Can that faith save him?&#8221; Such faith is not going to save. What kind of works is James interested in? The same kind Paul is &#8211; the works of love. Verses 15-16: &#8220;If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, and one of you says to them, &#8216;Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,&#8217; and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that?&#8221; So James&#8217; concern is that people have real saving faith, not counterfeit faith. And the difference is that the real faith produces loving behavior. </font></p>
<p style="font-family:Arial;">   <font size="2">He has three ways of describing this counterfeit faith. First in verse 17, he says it is dead: &#8220;Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself.&#8221; It is dead faith. If faith does not &#8220;work through love&#8221; as Paul said, it is dead. Second, in verse 19 he says, &#8220;You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder.&#8221; There is a faith that even devils have, namely, belief in right doctrine. The faith that justifies and works through love is not simply belief in right doctrines like, &#8220;God is one.&#8221; Devils can be orthodox at the intellectual level. They believe. But it doesn&#8217;t save them. So there is dead faith and devil faith. Third, he says in verse 20, &#8220;But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless?&#8221; So there is useless, idle, ineffective, vain, empty faith. </font></p>
<p>   <font size="2"><span style="font-family:Arial;">So there are three ways in this passage that James talks about faith to show that the faith he says cannot justify is a faith that Paul would totally agree cannot justify &#8211; dead faith, devil faith, and useless faith -faith that has no vital life that works through love.</span> </font></p></blockquote>
<p><font size="2">I trust that these excerpts have either opened your eyes or reaffirmed the truths and beauty of James as they have for me. Let us continue to be doers of the word and not just hearers.</font></p>
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		<title>On Greek Tragedies</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guessed it, I had my first Greek midterm last night. I found it surprising how much I did actually know considering that I&#8217;ve only had concentrated study of the material for about two months. But something troubled me with my translation methodology. You see, my engineering undergrad taught me to learn enough to get [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=138&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guessed it, I had my first Greek midterm last night.  I found it surprising how much I did actually know considering that I&#8217;ve only had concentrated study of the material for about two months.</p>
<p>But something troubled me with my translation methodology.  You see, my engineering undergrad taught me to learn enough to get through the test, not to learn the material for it&#8217;s own sake.  So difficult exams would involve all manner of processing the information given, and sparsely remembered, to produce the most points.</p>
<p>How does this affect Greek?  Well, instead of translating a Greek phrase or sentence, my engineering conditioned mind tries to decode it.  The instant some phrase sounds like a Scriptural caption &#8211; ZING &#8211; I write out the rest of the verse!  What nonsense!  Instead of using the Greek I know to translate into english, I find myself relying more heavily on english translations to reverse engineer the Greek!  Wretched man that I am, who will deliver me from this mind of death?!</p>
<p>Fortunately for me, God is gracious and I am actually learning some Greek, and the exam wasn&#8217;t that much of a tragedy.  And the good news is that with these catagories, if the test went well, it will be a comedy.</p>
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		<title>God is Love, with context</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[God is love. You&#8217;ve heard it a thousand times from individuals who really mean &#8220;my idea of love is god.&#8221; And if you&#8217;ve heard this statement used in this way, you&#8217;ve probably heard the same person question a view of God that allows for his wrath and justice. The question is, are they exclusive (not [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=108&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>God is love</strong>.  You&#8217;ve heard it a thousand times from individuals who really mean &#8220;my idea of love is god.&#8221;  And if you&#8217;ve heard this statement used in this way, you&#8217;ve probably heard the same person question a view of God that allows for his wrath and justice.</p>
<p>The question is, are they exclusive (not the people &#8211; the atributes of God)?  Can God be both loving and just?  I suppose a further question could be raised: Can I even ask these questions?  I have spoken with folks who say that beyond &#8220;God is love&#8221;, we can&#8217;t really define God if we remain biblical.  (Nevermind every book in the Bible that ascribes or implies things about the Lord&#8230; but I digress.)</p>
<p>A while back I realized that we are given catagories besides love even in this verse with which to understand God.  In fact, it is necessary in order to understand &#8220;God is love&#8221; that we think of him as holy.  The context of &#8220;God is love&#8221; demands it.</p>
<p><span id="more-108"></span>&#8220;&#8230;God is love.  In this the <em>love of God was made manifest among us</em>, <em>that God sent his only Son into the world</em>, so that we might live through him.  <em>In this is love</em>, not that we have loved God but that <em>he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins</em>.&#8221; (1 John 4:8b-10, ESV)</p>
<p>So a critical part of &#8220;God is love&#8221; is how we know it, that is, in the person of Christ.  This seems obvious, but apart from God&#8217;s sending his Son we would not know him as loving &#8211; we would still be children of wrath.  But notice the emphasis of this loving incarnation is on the propitiatory work of Christ!  The love of God is known through the coming and sacrifice of Christ to take away the wrath of God and make us pleasing to him.</p>
<p>Why is it so important that God&#8217;s love is tied to propitiation?  Plainly, his wrath is what is expiated, carried away, with Christ&#8217;s sacrifice.  Why is God wrathful towards us?  We are sinners, hopelessly corrupt in our ungodliness  and unrighteousness.  God is rightfully furious against us in ungodliness and unrighteousness because he is perfectly holy and good.  So the banner statement of &#8220;God is love&#8221;, is couched in the context of God&#8217;s holiness here by John.</p>
<p>I suppose that leaves us with a little more to consider when we causually reference God&#8217;s love.  His love really isn&#8217;t seperated from the majesty of the rest of his character.  When talking with my pastor recently about this, he said it well:  any understanding of &#8216;God is love&#8217; that denies his wrath is biblically unsatisfactory.  (Note the lack of quote marks there.)</p>
<p>So, the next time someone beats you with the prooftext stick of &#8220;God is love&#8221;, lovingly ask them read a little further, and explain propitiation with the &#8220;my idea of love is god&#8221; theology.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw this on FoxNews this morning but I wonder if they are going a little overboard with this. It is one thing to be a cessationist but quite another to &#8220;despise prophetic utterances&#8221; to the point where you will no longer &#8220;tolerate&#8221; it. I think that Southwest Baptist is in serious error which will [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=137&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this on FoxNews this morning but I wonder if they are going a little overboard with this.  It is one thing to be a cessationist but quite another to &#8220;despise prophetic utterances&#8221; to the point where you will no longer &#8220;tolerate&#8221; it.  I think that Southwest Baptist is in serious error which will promote disunity.  It also makes me question the SBC in general as it seems that they are taking some extreme stances which clearly are NOT Biblical (see Mark&#8217;s prayer for the SBC from several months ago).</p>
<p><a href="http://foxnews.com/story/0,2933,222363,00.html">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,222363,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>Hooray! (For Reformation Day)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all know it is upon us, that time of year when every store is stuffed to the gills with garbage resembling the dead and diseased. I am of course refering to Halloween, that season provoking my general contempt. Now, before you think I am some crazy theonomist, allow me to share- I like wearing [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=124&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all know it is upon us, that time of year when every store is stuffed to the gills with garbage resembling the dead and diseased.  I am of course refering to Halloween, that season provoking my general contempt.  Now, before you think I am some crazy theonomist, allow me to share- I like wearing costumes, eating candy, and I&#8217;m not a theonomist.  I&#8217;m not going on to some diatribe about how Halloween is evil.</p>
<p>Rather, I am excited about a new day for me.  That&#8217;s right, I&#8217;m refering to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformation_Day">Reformation Day</a>.  I&#8217;m excited because it is a reality, and it actually commemorates something that happened on October 31st &#8211; Luther&#8217;s nailing of the 95 Theses to the Wittenburg church door.</p>
<p>I know one of the elders at my church celebrates this day with his family, and I hope this post can drum up some support.  Without consulting my wife, I&#8217;m announcing a <strong>Reformation Day Party</strong> at my place <strong>October 27th at 8PM</strong> (it&#8217;s a Friday, I know.)  So, if you are interested in hearing all <a href="http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/history/95theses.htm">95 theses</a>, <a href="http://www.cardiffrose.com/crew2.html">dressing in period</a> (the 16th century), and raising a glass (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_stein" target="_blank">stein</a>?) in thanks for the purifying work God kicked off in his church with that action nigh 500 years ago, join me in saying</p>
<p>&#8211; <strong>Hooray for Reformation Day!</strong> &#8211;</p>
<p>Let me  know in the coments if you are interested in coming.</p>
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		<title>Gotta love those &#8220;Crispy Dispies&#8221;!</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mikeb</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why I am a pre-mil, pre-trib, pre-suppositional, carnal/non-Lordship, duel-natured antinomian, literal-implication, cessationist, zionist, spoof texting, multiple salvations, church “parenthesis” kind of believing “spurious Calvinist”. Oh…that makes me a Dispensationalist!  I suggest Gerstner&#8217;s &#8220;Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth&#8221; on the subject, great book and very funny!<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=132&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">Why I am a pre-mil, pre-trib, pre-suppositional, carnal/non-Lordship, duel-natured antinomian, literal-implication, cessationist, zionist, spoof texting, multiple salvations, church “parenthesis” kind of believing “spurious Calvinist”.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Oh…that makes me a Dispensationalist!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> I suggest Gerstner&#8217;s &#8220;Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth&#8221; on the subject, great book and very funny!</p>
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		<title>Generosity my dear Watson</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 02:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>larry5</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In light of a certain book (A Generous Orthodoxy) I wonder if Zondervan would take up my idea. A Generous Exegesis: Why I am a Premillenial, Preterist / Futurist, Postmillenial, Raptured / Tribulated, Amillenial, Dispensational / Covenental, Kind of Eschatologist.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=126&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In light of a certain book (A Generous Orthodoxy) I wonder if Zondervan would take up my idea.<br />
<span style="font-style:italic;"> A Generous Exegesis: Why I am a Premillenial, Preterist / Futurist, Postmillenial, Raptured / Tribulated, Amillenial, Dispensational / Covenental, Kind of Eschatologist.</span></p>
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		<title>Are we done yet?</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/10/13/are-we-done-with-the-lists-yet/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once again we have some more great lists. This time Justin Taylor is to thank for compiling book lists from these great men! C. J. Mahaney Erik Thoennes Philip Ryken Sam Storms Jim Hamilton<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=125&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again we have some more great lists.  This time <a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/" title="Justin Taylor" target="_blank">Justin Taylor</a> is to thank for compiling book lists from these great men!</p>
<p><a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2006/10/mahaney-on-top-books.html#links" title="Mahaney on the Top Books" target="_blank"> C. J. Mahaney</a><br />
<a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2006/10/thoennes-on-top-books.html#links" title="Thoennes on the Top Books" target="_blank">Erik Thoennes </a><br />
<a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2006/10/ryken-on-top-books.html#links" title="Ryken on the Top Books" target="_blank">Philip Ryken</a><br />
<a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2006/10/storms-on-top-books.html#links" title="Storms on the Top Books" target="_blank">Sam Storms </a><br />
<a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2006/10/hamilton-on-top-books.html#links" title="Amilton on the Top Books" target="_blank">Jim Hamilton </a></p>
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		<title>Books Books and more Books – Fiction</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 18:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After spending much of my life skimming over required reading for english/literature classes and trying to find cliff notes for certain books instead of actually reading the books. I have now found much enjoyment in taking in a good fiction novel. Though I must say it wasn’t only fiction that I didn’t read, but most [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=122&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">After spending much of my life skimming over required reading for english/literature classes and trying to find cliff notes for certain books instead of actually reading the books.  I have now found much enjoyment in taking in a good fiction novel.<span>  </span>Though I must say it wasn’t only fiction that I didn’t read, but most books for that matter.<span>  </span>I did enjoy non-fiction to some extent, maybe because of the knowledge that I gained or because I like facts.<span>  </span>It was easy to pick up an almanac or history book and start to read.<span>  </span>Sports Almanacs were always my favorite, though I guess I wouldn’t consider it a non-fiction book, probably a book of quite useless information as I think about it now, but nevertheless that is what I read growing up.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Reading was never a hobby or an activity that I wanted to do until a few years ago.<span>  </span>After Christ came into my life, He not only opened me up to the Word but also to the words of others.<span>  </span>Up until this past year, I never considered reading anything other than books on theology, spiritual disciplines, and any other type of Christian work.<span>   </span>Then I picked up <em>Pride and Prejudice</em> by Jane Austen and loved it.<span>  </span>It opened my eyes to the beauty of fiction.<span>  </span>I think Al Mohler sums it up quite well.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>“I believe that literature and the fictive imagination are among God&#8217;s gifts.  I read a great deal of fiction, and try to keep up on what the culture is reading.  That does not mean that I always have to read what the world is reading, but I do read enough to know what is shaping the minds of those around me. Beyond that, I truly enjoy losing myself in a story.  I am a big fan of authors such as Flannery O&#8217;Connor and Walker Percy, and I read quite a bit of contemporary fiction.  Of course, one must choose carefully here, and fiction is recreational reading &#8212; not study. </em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><em>One of the main values of reading fiction and great literature is that it develops the imagination and enhances literary style.  Just admit that you like fiction, if you do &#8212; but keep it in its place.  I keep a literary project going at all times, but it falls last in priority.  Plunder the Egyptians, and read the classics of literature.” </em></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">What sparked this post was once again I find myself reading Jane Austin, this time it’s <em>Sense and Sensibility</em>.<span>  </span>It has been a very enjoyable read thus far and look forward to reading some more of her and other fiction works in the years to come.<span>  </span>So take some time and pick up a good fiction book, I would recommend a classic like <em>Pride and Prejudice</em>.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> *And yes I am a guy</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">*And yes I like to read Jane Austin and I am not ashamed of it<span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A couple of questions to spark some discussion&#8230;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">What fiction books would you recommend?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Is there any other &#8220;guy&#8221; out there who likes Jane Austen?</p>
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		<title>Yet another good book list</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check out Purgatorio&#8217;s list of 50 books you should read. Then check out additions people suggest in the comments. Then go check out the linked set of 50 at CT. Books that piqued my interest for the first time were: God and Other Minds by Alvin Plantinga and Money, Possessions, and Eternity by Randy Alcorn. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=121&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out Purgatorio&#8217;s <a href="http://purgatorio1.com/?p=529#comments">list of 50 books you should read</a>.  Then check out additions people suggest in the comments.  Then go check out the linked <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2006/october/23.51.html">set of 50 at CT</a>.</p>
<p>Books that piqued my interest for the first time were:  <em>God and Other Minds</em> by Alvin Plantinga and <em>Money, Possessions, and Eternity</em> by Randy Alcorn.</p>
<p>I went through an counted that I have, or have read, only 8 of the 50 shown!  I&#8217;ve got some reading to do&#8230;
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<p>Update!<br />
<a href="http://purgatorio1.com/?p=531">50 Books You Should Leave on the Shelf</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>Sadly I&#8217;ve read at least 3 of these and own 2 of them.  I&#8217;ve even held a Ryrie Study Bible before but, but I quickly washed my hands&#8230; honest.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Good Gun, Bad Gun</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good Gun: Do try, as far as you can, to make the very way in which you speak to minister to the great end you have in view. Preach, for instance, as you would plead if you were standing before a judge, and begging for the life of a friend, or as if you were [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=120&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Gun:</p>
<blockquote><p>Do try, as far as you can, to make the very way in which you speak to minister to the great end you have in view. Preach, for instance, as you would plead if you were standing before a judge, and begging for the life of a friend, or as if you were appealing to the Queen herself on behalf of someone very dear to you. Use such a tone in pleading with sinners as you would use if a gibbet were erected in this room, and you were to be hanged on it unless you could persuade the person in authority to release you. That is the sort of earnestness you need in pleading with men as ambassadors for God. Try and make every sermon such that the most flippant shall see without any doubt that, if it be an amusement for them to hear you, it is no amusement for you to speak to them, but that you are pleading with them in downright solemn earnest about eternal matters. I have often felt just like this when I have been preaching,—I have known what it is to use up all my ammunition, and then I have, as it were, rammed myself into the great gospel gun, and I have fired myself at my hearers, all my experience of God&#8217;s goodness, all my consciousness of sin, and all my sense of the power of the gospel; and there are some people upon whom that kind of preaching tells where nothing else would have done, for they see that then you communicate to them not only the gospel, but yourself also. The kind of sermon which is likely to break the hearer&#8217;s heart is that which has first broken the preacher&#8217;s heart, and the sermon which is likely to reach the heart of the hearer is the one which has come straight from the heart of the preacher&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>~C.H. Spurgeon (referenced <a href="http://www.spurgeon.org/misc/sw04.htm">here</a>)<br />
Bad Gun:</p>
<blockquote><p> Somebody is attacking me because of something I am teaching.  Let me tell you something brother, you watch it!  &#8230;Sometimes I wish God would give me a Holy Ghost machine gun, I&#8217;ll blow your head off!</p></blockquote>
<p>~Benny Hinn (referenced <a href="http://www.modernreformation.org/krhinn.htm">here</a>)</p>
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		<title>Bibliophilism Waxing Existential: Hyperlinking Exemplars and an Exposition of Dilatorily Titular Sycophantism</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, so that pretty much says it. Check this out.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=119&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, so that pretty much says it.  <a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/blog_read.php?id=787">Check this out.</a></p>
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		<title>A (harsh) word on Short Term Missions</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 13:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife and I have been reading through Courtney Anderson&#8217;s To the Golden Shore, a biography of Adoniram Judson. As I mentioned in my previous post on &#8220;hating Burmans&#8221;, I&#8217;m learning a lot from this man&#8217;s life and how God used him. Last night a quote of his struck me with great force. This is [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=116&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Shore-Life-Adoniram-Judson/dp/0817011218/sr=1-1/qid=1160053821/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-7445708-2711101?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books" target="_blank"><img src="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/golden_shore_cover.thumbnail.jpg?w=96&#038;h=96" alt="To the Golden Shore Cover Image" height="96" width="96" /></a> My wife and I have been reading through Courtney Anderson&#8217;s <em>To the Golden Shore</em>, a biography of Adoniram Judson. As I mentioned in my previous post on &#8220;hating Burmans&#8221;, I&#8217;m learning a lot from this man&#8217;s life and how God used him.</p>
<p>Last night a quote of his struck me with great force.  This is a strong word, so I caution you before reading it.  I hope the comments produce a conversation on this topic of Short Term Missions. Well, with very little context (first provided by Anderson), here&#8217;s what Judson said:</p>
<p><em> The opening of 1833 brought additional missionaries from the United STates &#8211; one of them Miss Sarah Cummings, an unmaried woman.  Later there were to be accessions to the mission forces.  But as usual, they could not be of much real use until they became fluent in the language; and that would be a matter of years.  At least one of these had come out with the understanding that his service was to be for a limited period of years.  Adoniram was disturbed, like all his experienced colleagues.</em></p>
<blockquote><p><em>I much fear [he complained to the Corresponding Secretary at home,] that this will occasion a breach in our mission.   How can we, who are devoted for life, cordially take to our hearts one who is a mere hireling?&#8230; I have seen the beginning, middle, and end of several limited term missionaries.  They are all good for nothing.  Though brilliant in an English pulpit, they are incompetent to any real missionary work.  They come out for a few years, with the view of acquiring a stock of credit on which they may vegetate the rest of their days, in the congenial climate of thier native land&#8230;  The motto of every missionary, whether preacher, printer, or schoolmaster, ought to be &#8220;<strong>Devoted for life</strong>.&#8221;</em> (Courtney Anderson, To The Golden Shore, Pg. 409.  Emphasis present in Anderson.)</p></blockquote>
<p>What do you think of Judson&#8217;s comments?  Are they true for all short term missions opportunities?  Is his grim outlook purely a reflection of the incredible hardship and difficult times in which he lived?  Does he neglect the fruit of trips in the lives of the short termers themselves (and those back home)?  Is this only true when the cultures and languages are so vastly seperated for missionaries?</p>
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		<title>More reasons to read Piper and Driscoll</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/10/04/more-reasons-to-read-piper-and-driscoll/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 20:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check out this entry at MarkDriscoll&#8217;s blog. More reasons to cheer these guys on.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=115&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out <a href="http://theresurgence.com/md_blog_2006-10-04_thank_you_dr_john_piper" target="_blank">this entry</a> at MarkDriscoll&#8217;s <a href="http://theresurgence.com/" target="_blank">blog</a>.  More reasons to cheer these guys on.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>DG Conference Audio is Up!</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/10/03/dg-conference-audio-is-up/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A big hat tip to Larry who found that the DG 2006 conference audio is already up.  So get to downloading if you didn&#8217;t go &#8211; it&#8217;s a festavus for the rest of us!<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=114&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A big hat tip to Larry who found that the <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Events/NationalConferences/Archives/2006/">DG 2006 conference audio</a> is already up.  So get to downloading if you didn&#8217;t go &#8211; it&#8217;s a festavus for the rest of us!</p>
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		<title>Robe or No?</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/10/02/robe-or-no/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I stumbled upon this over at A Puritan&#8217;s Mind, it&#8217;s an article on pastors wearing robes in the pulpit.  Let me know what you think.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=111&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stumbled upon <a href="http://www.apuritansmind.com/PuritanWorship/McMahonGenevanRobe.htm" target="_blank">this</a> over at <a href="http://www.apuritansmind.com/MainPage.htm" target="_blank">A Puritan&#8217;s Mind</a>, it&#8217;s an article on pastors wearing robes in the pulpit.  Let me know what you think.</p>
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		<title>DG National Conference</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/09/29/dg-national-conference/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a few hours Larry, myself and another friend will be departing the friendly confines of West Lafayette, IN and heading off to the DG National Conference in Minneapolis, MN.   I&#8217;m sure this trip will be full of fellowship, solid teaching, and plenty of fun, so  I&#8217;m  primed and ready to go. Another thing I&#8217;m [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=109&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a few hours Larry, myself and another friend will be departing the friendly confines of West Lafayette, IN and heading off to the <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Events/NationalConferences/Archives/2006/" title="Desiring God National Conference">DG National Conference</a> in Minneapolis, MN.   I&#8217;m sure this trip will be full of fellowship, solid teaching, and plenty of fun, so  I&#8217;m  primed and ready to go.</p>
<p>Another thing I&#8217;m excited about (maybe more the conference) is the discounted books!  Feel free to let me know if there is a specific book you want me to pick up.  I should have access to the Internet, so shoot me an email or leave a comment on this post and I&#8217;ll try to accommodate you.</p>
<p>Sometime next week I&#8217;m planning to do a post on the conference.  It may take me a few days or so to process some of the information so don&#8217;t wait expectantly for it.</p>
<p>May the Lord be glorified this weekend!</p>
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		<title>Why do I hate Burmans (why does God love me)?</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/09/26/why-do-i-hate-burmans-why-does-god-love-me/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A friend of mine once told me about his experience reading the biography of Adoniram Judson, the first American foreign missionary. This friend told me how he wept while reading of Judson&#8217;s suffering for the Gospel, and how anger in his heart rose toward God for the pain Adoniram endured. Certainly seeing the loss of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=105&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine once told me about his experience reading the biography of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adoniram_Judson" target="_blank">Adoniram Judson</a>, the first American foreign missionary.  This friend told me how he wept while reading of Judson&#8217;s suffering for the Gospel, and how anger in his heart rose toward God for the pain Adoniram endured.  Certainly seeing the loss of loved ones and for a time, even Judson&#8217;s mind, causes us to ask deep questions and even wrestle with God to get answers.</p>
<p>W hile anger towards God is not right (this friend didn&#8217;t think so either by the way), I have had a different reaction while reading Courtney Anderson&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Golden-Shore-Life-Adoniram-Judson/dp/0817011218/sr=1-1/qid=1159274299/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-7445708-2711101?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books" target="_blank">To the Golden Shore</a>.  I have wept after reading of Judson&#8217;s dying loved ones, imprisonment, mental anguish, and brutality recieved at the hands of the people he longs to see awakened.  However, I have not gotten angry with God (praise him for that!), instead I have become irate at the Burmans.  In my mind I argue with them; &#8220;You foolish Burmans!  How could you treat Judson, an envoy of Christ, like this!  How could you be so wicked and wrongheaded!&#8221;  On and on I could go about thier stupidity and wickedness.</p>
<p>But last night it hit me, all my anger towards the Burmans showed my own heart&#8217;s emptyness.  Was I not an enemy of God once?  Did I not hate him and his elect not too long ago?  Was it not men just like me who murdered the Son of God?!  By the very measure I applied to the Burmans, I was condemned.  Suddenly I remembered:</p>
<p>&#8220;You have heard that it was said, &#8216;You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.&#8217; <span class="sup"></span>But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, <span class="sup"></span>so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven.&#8221;(Matthew 5:43-45 ESV)</p>
<p>&#8220;but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.&#8221;(Romans  5:8, ESV)</p>
<p>&#8220;And you were dead in the trespasses and sins <span class="sup"></span>in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience&#8211; <span class="sup"></span>among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. <span class="sup"></span>But<sup></sup> God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us,  <span class="sup"></span>even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ&#8211;by grace you have been saved&#8211; <span class="sup"></span>and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, <span class="sup"></span>so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. <span class="sup"></span>For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, <span class="sup"></span>not a result of works, so that no one may boast. <span class="sup"></span>For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.&#8221;(Ephesians 2:1-10, ESV)</p>
<p>May God change my heart and yours to love our enemies as a result of Christ&#8217;s work in us &#8211; the giving of new, gracious, merciful, Father-like, hearts.</p>
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		<title>Thanks Mark!</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 16:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Mark for taking the time to move us to our new home. Maybe this will inspire me and others to post more&#8230; All the work and effort is appreciated! Not to mention it looks good!<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=103&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mark for taking the time to move us to our new home.  Maybe this will inspire me and others to post more&#8230;</p>
<p>All the work and effort is appreciated! Not to mention it looks good!</p>
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		<title>McCheyne Poem, As Promised</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 07:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last night at study we discussed the crucifixion and resurrection narratives, as well as Jesus&#8217; final discourse and themes from the entire gospel. In talking through the parables in chapter 25, I referenced this R.M. McCheyne poem that I love. I hope you are edified by it. TEN virgins, clothed in white, The Bridegroom went [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=101&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night at study we discussed the crucifixion and resurrection narratives, as well as Jesus&#8217; final discourse and themes from the entire gospel.  In talking through the parables in chapter 25, I referenced this <a href="http://web.ukonline.co.uk/d.haslam/mccheyne/zion/OIL%20IN%20THE%20LAMP.htm">R.M. McCheyne poem</a> that I love.  I hope you are edified by it.</p>
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<blockquote>

TEN virgins, clothed in white,
 The Bridegroom went to meet;
Their lamps were burning bright
 To guide his welcome feet.

Five if the band were wise --
 Their lamps with oil filled high;
The rest this care despise,
 And take their vessels dry.

Long time the Lord abode -
 Down came the shades of night -
The weary virgins nod,
 And then they sleep outright.

At midnight came the cry
 Upon their startled ear -
Behold the Bridegroom nigh,
 To light His steps appear.

They trim their lamps; in vain
 The foolish virgins toil -
Our lamps are out, O deign
 To give us of your oil!

Not so - the wise ones cry -
 No oil have we to spare;
But swiftly run and buy,
 That you the joy may share.

They went to buy, when lo!
 The Bridegroom comes in state;
Within those ready go,
 And shut the golden gate.

The foolish virgins now
 Before the gateway crowd;
With terror on their brow
 They knock and cry aloud:-

"Lord open to our call -
 Hast Thou our names forgot?"
Sadly the accents fall -
 "Depart, I know you not."

Learn here, my child, how vain
 This world, with all its lies,
Those who the kingdom gain
 Alone are truly wise.

How vain the Christian name,
 If still you live in sin:-
A lamp, and wick, and flame,
 No drop of oil within.

Is your lamp filled, my child,
 With oil from Christ above?
Has He your heart, so wild,
 Made soft and full of love?

Then you are ready now
 With Christ to enter in;
To see His holy brow,
 And bid farewell to sin.

Sinners! Behold the gate
 Of Jesus open still;
Come, ere it be too late,
 And enter if you will.

The Saviour's gentle hand
 Knocks at your door to-day
But vain his loud demand -
 You spurn His love away.

So, at the Saviour's door
 You'll knock, with trembling heart
The day of mercy o'er,
 Jesus will say - depart.</blockquote>

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		<title>Name Game (Participation Required)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 20:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As my roommate and I were &#8220;tropical plant&#8221; shopping we came across some T.U.L.I.P Bulbs, which I had to buy. I must say Tulips aren&#8217;t the most beautiful flowers, in my opinion, but they do have the best name. I&#8217;ve decided to plant five of them in a pot and name them. Four of the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=100&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As my roommate and I were &#8220;tropical plant&#8221; shopping we came across some T.U.L.I.P Bulbs, which I had to buy.  I must say Tulips aren&#8217;t the most beautiful flowers, in my opinion, but they do have the best name.  I&#8217;ve decided to plant five of them in a pot and name them.  Four of the names are going to be Calvin, Edwards, Owen, and Spurgeon.  I&#8217;m taking suggestions on the fifth, so please give me a name and reason why they are worthy of pot hood.</p>
<p>Criteria:<br />
1.  Must be dead<br />
That&#8217;s it and that&#8217;s all!</p>
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		<title>Pavlovian Response?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve found that, for me, there are (at least) two easy ways to immediately induce salivation. 1. Introduce a food item lovingly garnished with Tabasco(c) sauce to my environment. 2. Let me look at this, this, this, or this. [Caution: Theological Books!!] On the note of building a puritan library, I found Tony Reinke&#8217;s series [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=99&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found that, for me, there are (at least) two easy ways to immediately induce salivation.</p>
<p>1.  Introduce a food item lovingly garnished with Tabasco(c) sauce to my environment.<br />
2.  Let me look at <a href="http://www.apuritansmind.com/SuggestedReading.htm">this</a>, <a href="http://www.apuritansmind.com/SuggestedLibraryAdvanced.htm">this</a>, <a href="http://www.9marks.org/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID314526%7CCHID598032%7CCIID1562504,00.html">this</a>, or <a href="http://www.9marks.org/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID314526%7CCHID598032%7CCIID1644104,00.html">this</a>.   [Caution: Theological Books!!]<br />
On the note of building a puritan library, I found Tony Reinke&#8217;s <a href="http://spurgeon.wordpress.com/2006/09/06/the-puritan-study-part-1-the-delights-and-pains-of-a-puritan-study/">series</a> to be informative thus far.</p>
<p>Now for something completely different:</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t already, read Piper&#8217;s suggestions on <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Articles/ByDate/1978/1786_Ministering_to_Your_Pastor/">ministering to your pastor</a>.  I think every christian should read and apply this.</p>
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		<title>Mortification of Sin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[“For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.” Romans 8:13 (KJV) “For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=98&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="sup">“</span>For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.” Romans 8:13 (KJV)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <span class="sup">“</span>For if you live according to the flesh you will die, but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.” Romans 8:13 (ESV)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> “Hatred of sin as sin, not only as galling or disquieting, a sense of the love of Christ in the cross, lie at the bottom of all true spiritual mortification.” – John Owen from <a href="http://reformed.org/master/index.html?mainframe=/books/owen/vol6/index.html">Mortification of Sin in Believers</a></p>
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		<title>More NPP fodder</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently my pastor did a series on N.T. Wright and &#8220;New Perspectivism.&#8221; His emphasis was on the doctrine of imputed righteousness and where/how that is handled in his view and Wright&#8217;s. I&#8217;ve organized the links in this short list to make it accessible. Zechariah 3 on Imputation here. Bunyan on Imputation here. Edwards on Justification [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=97&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size:100%;"><span style="font-family:georgia;">Recently my pastor did a series on N.T. Wright and &#8220;New Perspectivism.&#8221;  His emphasis was on the doctrine of imputed righteousness and where/how that is handled in his view and Wright&#8217;s.  I&#8217;ve organized the links in this short list to make it accessible.</span><br />
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<li><span style="font-size:100%;">Zechariah 3 on Imputation <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/2006/08/08/" target="_blank">here</a>.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size:100%;">Bunyan on Imputation <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/2006/08/12/john-bunyan-and-imputation/" target="_blank"> here</a>.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size:100%;">Edwards on Justification <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/2006/08/13/a-peaceful-preamble-from-jonathan-edwards-before-we-discuss-the-doctrine-of-justification/" target="_blank">here</a>.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size:100%;">Romans 3:21 part 1 <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/2006/08/14/nt-wright-and-romans-321-part-1/" target="_blank"> here</a>.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size:100%;">Romans 3:21 part 2 <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/2006/08/14/the-npp-and-romans-321-part-2/" target="_blank">here</a>.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size:100%;">Romans 3:22 <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/2006/08/15/the-npp-and-romans-322/" target="_blank">here</a> .</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size:100%;">Anybody out there? (on NPP) <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/2006/08/15/is-there-anybody-out-there/" target="_blank">here</a>.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size:100%;">Romans 3:24 and Imputation <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/2006/08/16/romans-324-and-the-gift-of-righteousness/" target="_blank"> here</a>.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size:100%;">Romans 4:2 and Boasting <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/2006/08/17/romans-42-and-boasting-before-god/" target="_blank">here</a>.<br />
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<p><span style="font-size:100%;">As I mentioned previously, I&#8217;m perusing N.T. Wright’s <em>Paul for Everyone</em> commentary on <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=gal%203&amp;version=47">Galatians</a>. Frequently in reading it, I’m left asking, “Wha Happan?”<span>  </span>So what is the source of my befuddlement? Wright specifically organizes the thought of this passage, and selects words such that his interpretation is quite perspicous. I think the highlighted sections below are telling of his emphasis. Allow the Scripture translations to tell the rest of the story:<br />
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:georgia;"><span style="font-size:100%;"><span style="font-size:12px;"><br />
First from the <a href="www.ESV.org">ESV</a>:<br />
23Now before <strong>faith</strong> came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming <strong>faith</strong> would be revealed. 24So then, the law was our guardian until <strong>Christ</strong> came, in order that <strong>we might be</strong> <strong>justified by faith.</strong> 25But now that <strong>faith</strong> has come, we are no longer under a guardian, 26for <strong>in Christ Jesus</strong> you are all sons of God, <strong>through faith</strong>. 27For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.</span></span></p>
<p>Now from N.T. Wright&#8217;s translation in <em>Paul for Everyone</em>:<br />
&#8220;23Before this <strong>faithfulness</strong> arrived, we were kept under guard by the law, in close confinement until the coming <strong>faithfulness</strong> should be revealed. 24Thus the law was like a babysitter for us, looking after us until the coming of the <strong>Messiah</strong>, so that we might be <strong>given covenant membership</strong> <strong>on the basis of faithfulness</strong>. 25But now that <strong>faithfulness</strong> has come, we are no longer under the rule of the babysitter. 26For you are all <strong>children of God</strong> through <strong>the</strong> <strong>faithfulness</strong> which is in [<strong>of</strong>] <strong>the Messiah, Jesus</strong>.&#8221; (N.T. Wright, <em>Paul for Everyone</em>. SPCK, <em>London</em><em> England</em>, UK. pg. 39. Emphasis added by me.)</p>
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		<title>Encouragement from Cowper</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[LIGHT SHINING OUT OF DARKNESS. God moves in a mysterious way His wonders to perform; He plants his footsteps in the sea, And rides upon the storm. Deep in unfathomable mines Of never-failing skill, He treasures up his bright designs, And works his sovereign will. Ye fearful saints, fresh courage take, The clouds ye so [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=96&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LIGHT SHINING OUT OF DARKNESS.</p>
<p>God moves in a mysterious way<br />
His wonders to perform;<br />
He plants his footsteps in the sea,<br />
And rides upon the storm.</p>
<p>Deep in unfathomable mines<br />
Of never-failing skill,<br />
He treasures up his bright designs,<br />
And works his sovereign will.</p>
<p>Ye fearful saints, fresh courage take,<br />
The clouds ye so much dread<br />
Are big with mercy, and shall break<br />
In blessings on your head.</p>
<p>Judge not the Lord by feeble sense,<br />
But trust him for his grace:<br />
Behind a frowning providence<br />
He hides a smiling face.</p>
<p>His purposes will ripen fast,<br />
Unfolding every hour;<br />
The bud may have a bitter taste,<br />
But sweet will be the flower.</p>
<p>Blind unbelief is sure to err,<br />
And scan his work in vain:<br />
God is his own interpreter,<br />
And he will make it plain.</p>
<p>[part of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Cowper">William Cowper</a>'s contribution to the <a href="http://www.ccel.org/c/cowper/works/olney.htm">Olney Hymns</a>, compiled by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Newton">John Newton</a>.]</p>
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		<title>Broad concern or mere fiddle faddle?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is an excerpt from a 9marks interview that Mark Denver did with Ligon Duncan on Justification and the New Perspective. Mark Denver: Why should this (New Perspective on Paul) be a matter of concern for pastors and church leaders, I mean is it or is it really just a matter for concern for a [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=95&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">Here is an excerpt from a <a href="http://www.9marks.org/">9marks</a> interview that <a href="http://www.9marks.org/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID314526%7CCHID616022%7CCIID1554164,00.html">Mark Denver</a> did with <a href="http://www.fpcjackson.org/staff/duncan.htm">Ligon Duncan</a> on <a href="http://www.theopedia.com/Justification">Justification </a>and the <a href="http://www.theopedia.com/New_Perspective">New Perspective</a>.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mark Denver:<span>  </span>Why should this (New Perspective on Paul) be a matter of concern for pastors and church leaders, I mean is it or is it really just a matter for concern for a few professors who read and critique each others concern?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ligon Duncan:<span>  </span>I think it&#8217;s a matter of broad concern and I think that the amount of ink that&#8217;s being spilled over that is proof of that fact I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a tempest in a teapot and for me the proof is this, some of the best students that I&#8217;ve taught in seminary over the past dozen years have fallen hook line and sinker for it and consequently in my opinion they are fuzzy in their presentation of and understanding of the gospel and for me that&#8217;s a serious issue.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mark Denver:<span>  </span>How are they fuzzy in their presentation of the gospel?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ligon Duncan:<span>  </span>Well they are confused about what justification is, one, and in my view you don&#8217;t really do a good job of presenting the gospel unless you understand justification and what Paul is is  talking about when he says justification.<span>  </span>Two, um, they become unsure of whether justification is really a very important issue in relation to the gospel, but the gospel becomes redefined.<span> Ah, </span>N.T. Wright himself will often say the gospel is not in Romans 3 in the section from 3:22-28 on justification; the gospel is in Romans 1:3 and 4, which is the declaration that Jesus is Lord and Messiah that&#8217;s the gospel, not that we are justified by faith apart from the works of the law.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://resources.christianity.com/details/mrki/20040731/2A9DB05B-4E8E-4F91-9A00-02E5DC276533.aspx">Listen to the rest here.<br />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 09:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mikeb</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I was at work today I was listening to talk radio (as I usually do). Yes, I enjoy the conservative commentaries of Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, I am one of &#8220;those&#8221;. Today though I was listening to a less conservative show and during a commercial brake I heard the following from Dr. Dean [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=94&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I was at work today I was listening to talk radio (as I usually do).  Yes, I enjoy the conservative commentaries of  Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, I am one of &#8220;those&#8221;.  Today though I was listening to a less conservative show and during a commercial brake I heard the following from Dr. Dean Adel:</p>
<p>&#8220;Can cussing be good for you?&#8230;Studies show that cussing can relieve stress&#8230;we are the only animals capable of using such words&#8230;think about it if you were to get cut off in a car, simply saying a cuss word to yourself or in your head is better than the alternative&#8230;after all, if you bottle it up you can let it go and border on Terretts Syndrome which is a neurological disorder&#8230;while we don&#8217;t encourage you to teach your children that they should do this, it can be a good thing&#8221;  (this is a paraphrase of his words&#8230;I couldn&#8217;t write them all fast enough)</p>
<p>Wow&#8230;I would like to know what kind of doctor this guy is&#8230;perhaps him and Kavorkian meet up for coffee and discuss philosophy and ethics.</p>
<p>This sort of worldview is permeating our society, our education and media institutions, our political system and even our churches.  We must be vigilant in our churches and daily lives to prove the transforming power of the Holy Spirit AGAINST this sort of depravity.  Cussing doesn&#8217;t relieve stress, it is SIN and causes more anxiety (instead we should &#8220;Cast our anxiety on him because he cares for us&#8221;).  Even cussing in our heads isn&#8217;t a &#8216;good thing&#8217; (But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, &#8216;Raca, &#8216; is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, &#8216;You fool!&#8217; will be in danger of the fire of hell.)</p>
<p>Indeed we need to be transformed.  Oh Lord help us NOT to conform but be transformed by the renewing or our minds and sanctified by your truth, YOUR WORD IS TRUTH!</p>
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		<title>Mission Field and Spiritual Quest</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are a couple excerpts from &#8220;Above All Earthly Pow&#8217;rs &#8211; Christ in a Postmodern World&#8221; that I read tonight. &#8220;Some of the more conservative Christian groups continue to speak of America as a Christian country, or at least that it should be a Christian country, or at the very least that in its origins [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=93&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are a couple excerpts from &#8220;Above All Earthly Pow&#8217;rs &#8211; Christ in a Postmodern World&#8221; that I read tonight.</p>
<p><span style="font-style:italic;">&#8220;Some of the more conservative Christian groups continue to speak of America as a Christian country, or at least that it should be a Christian country, or at the very least that in its origins it once was a Christian Country. The reality, however, is that America is the world&#8217;s most religiously diverse nation now and from a Christian point of view it is as fully a mission field as any to which churches now are sending their missionaries. This is true, not only because of the arrival of these new immigrants with their diverse religions, but also because of the postmodern decay in American culture.&#8221;</span> (page 108)</p>
<p><span style="font-style:italic;">&#8220;Beginning in the 1960s, and blossoming in the 1970s and 1980s, &#8220;spirituality,&#8221; for a significant number of people, came into its own and became preferable to &#8220;religion.&#8221; The distinction that quickly took root was that religion stood from organized belief in its public form. It stood for participation in worship, support of the church or synagogue, and acceptance of its doctrines. Spirituality, by contrast, has come to stand for what is private and internal. What this typically means is that those who are spiritual accept no truth which is not experientially grounded. In the one, there is doctrine which is part and parcel of the church; in the other, mystical encounter which may often be accompanied by an unorthodox disposition. In the one, faith is lived out with a religious structure; in the other, there is suspicion of, if not hostility toward, religion which is organized.&#8221;</span> (page 109-110)</p>
<p>Wells, David. <span style="font-style:italic;">Above All Earthly Pow&#8217;rs: Christ in a Postmodern World</span>. Grand Rapids, Michigan / Cambridge, U.K. Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing Co. 2005<span style="font-style:italic;"><span style="font-style:italic;"></span><br />
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		<title>&#8220;Slick Willy&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know Ann Coulter can be a little &#8220;over the top&#8221; but I find her articles to be full of truth as well as wit, which makes it enjoyable to read. I think everyone should be made aware of the information in this article, thus I post it: http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=92&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Ann Coulter can be a little &#8220;over the top&#8221; but I find her articles to be full of truth as well as wit, which makes it enjoyable to read.   I think everyone should be made aware of the information in this article, thus I post it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi">http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi</a></p>
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		<title>What’s Wrong with the Ministry???</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mikeb</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is not my word like fire, declares the Lord, and like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces? -Jeremiah 23:29 (ESV) Webster Definition for pragmatism: 1 : a practical approach to problems and affairs pragmatism&#62; 2 : an American movement in philosophy founded by C. S. Peirce and William James and marked by the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=91&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">Is not my word like fire, declares the <span class="small-caps">Lord</span>, and like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces?<span>  </span>-Jeremiah 23:29 (ESV)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Webster Definition for pragmatism:<br />
<span>1</span> <span>:</span> a practical approach to problems and affairs <em>pragmatism</em>&gt;<br />
<span>2</span> <span>:</span> an American movement in philosophy founded by C. S. Peirce and William James and marked by the doctrines that the meaning of conceptions is to be sought in their practical bearings, that the function of thought is to guide action, and that truth is preeminently to be tested by the practical consequences of belief</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I was involved with the Navigators for the past 3.5 years until my recent retirement this past summer.<span>  </span>God has blessed the Navigator ministry at Purdue and through that has blessed me as well (and I’m sure all the rest of the bloggers at 5_pointers agree).<span>  </span>I’m very thankful for the ministry He has set up at Purdue and, especially, for the leaders He has placed there.<span>  </span>It is a true blessing to have a gospel centered and glorifying to God ministry at Purdue.<span>  </span>That said this post has nothing to do with the Navigator ministry at Purdue being pragmatic, but one that is in deep contrast.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">My first contact with pragmatism occurred a couple different times last year at Nav Rally’s or our large group meetings that are held every Friday.<span>  </span>On a couple different occasions people would come up to me and mentioned how much the attendance had dropped since the previous year.<span>  </span>After a few minutes of discussion with each, it was quite clear that they were getting at the question of, “what’s wrong with the ministry?”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Both times I was caught aghast, because knowing the solid Foundation of the ministry and the fruit that it produces, left me to ponder their ideology of a successful ministry.<span>  </span>It was clear that their mindset was this, if the ministry wasn’t growing and the attendance was dropping something was wrong with the ministry.<span>  </span>I’m learning that this is an all too common theme in the postmodern world that we live in and an all too wrong understanding of a successful ministry.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The book of Jeremiah is a gold mine in refuting pragmatism.<span>  </span>Through out his whole ministry nations and his own family were at war against him and it had a lack of converts.<span>  </span>Also, if you read the first two chapters of 1 Corinthians you see the gospel message producing mixed results.<span>  </span>Just because your ministry isn’t growing doesn’t mean there is something wrong.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">My question to you is what is a successful ministry?<span>  </span></p>
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		<title>Of Use to Whom?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been side-tracked and put this post off for several months. I&#8217;ll be quick and recreate the scene. I was sitting in the food court at Purdue around 4:00 meeting with Cliff, a former boss. He wanted to talk to me about struggles I&#8217;ve had over the last year, and didn&#8217;t soften much up [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=90&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been side-tracked and put this post off for several months.  I&#8217;ll be quick and recreate the scene.  I was sitting in the food court at Purdue around 4:00 meeting with Cliff, a former boss.  He wanted to talk to me about struggles I&#8217;ve had over the last year, and didn&#8217;t soften much up for me.<br />
What stood out most was Cliff&#8217;s story about how he had done spiritual<span style="font-style:italic;"> </span>stuff (overspiritual), so much so that it hurt his ministry to those closest to him.  When he was in college, he dated a girl at another college.  They lived a couple hours apart, so his weekends were made up of driving back and forth, staying up late, and spending time with her.  They would pray together and read the Bible together.<br />
Someone told Cliff during that time, &#8220;As far as I can tell, you&#8217;re not doing anyone any good these days.&#8221;<br />
While he met with his girlfriend, his mom was at home, and he was missing the less <span style="font-style:italic;">spiritual </span>things of engaging those related and closest to him.</p>
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		<title>Extra Extra! Read all about it!</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agent Double &#8216;O&#8217; Zero has finally ended his blog silence of not a few months. Check out the Blogorific Blogorama&#8217;s latest post on the ICOC. Also, ENielsen recently lent me the DVD of the James White/Douglas Wilson debate &#8211; &#8220;Is the Roman Catholic my brother or sister in Christ?&#8221; I never thought 2 hours and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=89&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.agent000.com/">Agent Double &#8216;O&#8217; Zero</a> has finally ended his blog silence of not a few months.  Check out the Blogorific Blogorama&#8217;s latest <a href="http://www.agent000.com/item/65">post</a> on the ICOC.</p>
<p>Also, ENielsen recently lent me the DVD of the <a href="http://www.aomin.org">James White</a>/<a href="http://www.dougwils.com">Douglas Wilson</a> debate &#8211; &#8220;Is the Roman Catholic my brother or sister in Christ?&#8221;  I never thought 2 hours and 48 minutes of debate on the Federal Vision and the meaning of trinitarian baptism per the New Covenant could be so fascinatingly exciting!  If you have no idea what I&#8217;m talking about, watch this <a href="https://aomin.org/bookstore/descript.phtml?descript=517">DVD</a> (get it <a href="https://aomin.org/bookstore/shop.html?shop=video">here</a>.)  It is very informative and worth your time.</p>
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		<title>Ahhhh Facebook</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I was reading through the news today, this article sparked both some old and new thoughts about Facebook. A couple of years ago I plunged head first onto the Facebook bandwagon. Not really knowing anything about it except that all my friends were joining, my curiosity and desire to be apart of the “in [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=88&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I was reading through the news today, <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,212722,00.html">this article </a>sparked both some old and new thoughts about Facebook.</p>
<p>A couple of years ago I plunged head first onto the Facebook bandwagon.  Not really knowing anything about it except that all my friends were joining, my curiosity and desire to be apart of the “in crowd” lead me to signing up.  Initially it was fun and interesting, looking up old high school friends to see what they were up to and where they were at was a good hobby.  Also, learning more about current friends and acquaintances seemed to be a good way to spend time.  There was also a lot of amusing bantering that took place on friend’s wall.  Another feature that appeared good was putting your class schedule up so you can find other people in your class.</p>
<p>All of these things at first seemed like good things and were reason enough for me to continuing to be apart of the growing craze.  Then I started to really think about Facebook and the implications it has had on me and could have on others.</p>
<p>I have nothing against those who use Facebook, most of my friends are members.  I hope that those who do use it would, first, evaluate why they use it and if they are using it in a way that glorifies God (2 Cor 10:21).  Second, if you do decide to use it set up precautions that protect you.</p>
<p>Some issues with Facebook:<br />
1.  Safety:  It relates to guys and girls, but more specifically for girls.  You may think stalking is not a big deal, but after the incidents at Purdue last year and many more outside of Purdue, it’s a serious issue.  Most people put up way to much information, such as addresses, place of employment, phone numbers, etc.  Another big one that most people probably don’t realize is class schedule.  You may be thinking, “Are you serious,” how can this pose a problem.  Any intelligent stalker can find out the time and place where that class meets from most universities websites.  This is probably one of my biggest problems with Facebook, though I know most of it can be prevented with due diligence.  <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,209077,00.html">To see that I’m not crazy read this.</a></p>
<p>2.   Purpose of use:  A question you should ask yourself is what is my purpose for using it?  Most people would probably say to keep up with friendships.  But if you really prod yourself there may be some more serious sin issues at hand.  One may be pride played out in many different ways such as, I want to have the most friends linked to me or I want to taunt my personal resume to show others how good I am (Phil 3:1-11).  Going even further is to show someone “specific” how good I am.  I’m not saying everyone’s purpose is not edifying to God, but after talking with a lot of people this seems to be a more prevalent issue.</p>
<p>3.  Waste of time:  I use to spend a couple hours each day wasting time searching through facebook.  I’m sure that there are some people who spend a lot more time on there than that.  Whose time is it, is it our time or God’s time?  Let us continue to honor God with every hour of our day.</p>
<p>These are just a few of the issues I have.  I’m sure there are more, but these are the one’s that are currently on the top of my head.</p>
<p>I hope this can generate some good discussions!</p>
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		<title>What to write about&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 07:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the coming week or so I plan to post on a few topics. Due to the fact the I&#8217;m in the progress of getting all my things unpacked after moving, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll get to them until the weekend or next week. So with no further ado here they are&#8230; 1. Pragmatism at [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=87&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the coming week or so I plan to post on a few topics. Due to the fact the I&#8217;m in the progress of getting all my things unpacked after moving, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll get to them until the weekend or next week. So with no further ado here they are&#8230;</p>
<p>1. Pragmatism at Purdue<br />
2. Postmodernism at Purdue<br />
3. Down-Grade Controversy</p>
<p>Even though these topics may appear on the outside very different, the root of all these issues has a common theme. I hope this will generate some good discussions over the next couple weeks!</p>
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		<title>Free Illustration</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When flying on a commercial airline, nomatter where or for how long, the flight attendants always give the spiel about knowledge we take for granted. Where are the exits? How do I operate this safety belt? Can I still buy a carton of duty-free smokes? During this time I usually slouch listlessly, wondering what the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=86&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1172/1959/1600/airwhat2.png"><img src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1172/1959/320/airwhat2.png" alt="" border="0" /></a>When flying on a commercial airline, nomatter where or for how long, the flight attendants always give the spiel about knowledge we take for granted.  Where are the exits?  How do I operate this safety belt?  Can I still buy a carton of duty-free smokes?  During this time I usually slouch listlessly, wondering what the person next to me is thinking.</p>
<p>This past weekend I took a little trip with my wife to Atlanta to visit family.  The same old song and dance was paraded before us&#8230; unfasten your belt like so&#8230; breath through your mouth or nose like so, etc.  The trouble was that the flight attendant had the most annoying voice.  It was really quite a marvel, half &#8220;Charlie Brown&#8217;s teacher&#8221; &#8211; half microphone feedback.  Needless to say, I covered my ears.<br />
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Now picture this for a moment, someone is telling you this vital safety briefing, and you are ignoring them!  There I was, fingers in my ears refusing to listen to what was best for me to hear.  What a bloke!</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t already caught the illustration, allow me to elucidate.  The plane is going down &#8211; your plane.  You will die, and it will be soon.  God is angry with you, he is bringing your plane out of the sky.  All of us are closing our ears to the witness of God in the things he has made as well as the Gospel herald through his Word from his people.  As an athiest (practically or ideologically) we plug our ears to avoid disrupting our false comfort &#8211; every thought is &#8220;there is no God.&#8221;  Someone, perhaps in a uniform with a pin, is telling you what you need to know.  If you are annoyed by thier voice &#8211; perhaps the light of thier message is blinding to your dull eyes so accustomed to the darkness of your false world (a la the Cave Allegory) &#8211; you will shut your eyes and ears to them.</p>
<p>A sad picture indeed.  The absurdity of the situation should impress on the athiest the fooly of such a way.  Meanwhile, those brought to life should see the task &#8211; avail yourself of the Lord.  Who can open blind eyes and unstop dull ears?  Who can soften hearts to love God?  Who can clothe you with the (purple=regal?) wedding clothes of righteousness* (Matt. 22)?</p>
<p><span style="font-size:85%;">*You knew the purple suit had to make it in somehow.  White shoes baby!  Gospel of Peace? </span></p>
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		<title>Oh that President of Southern&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In listening to the audio of the Together for the Gospel conference, I heard Mark Dever introduce Al Mohler as a good friend and hilarious conversationalist. This may be hard to believe considering Mohler&#8217;s ernest cultural commentary. But as of today, I do believe it. Check out his take on Pinnochio converting to Islam.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=85&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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In listening to the audio of the <a href="http://www.togetherforthegospel.org/">Together for the Gospe</a>l conference, I heard Mark Dever introduce Al Mohler as a good friend and hilarious conversationalist.  This may be hard to believe considering Mohler&#8217;s ernest cultural commentary.  But as of today, I do believe it.  Check out his take on <a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/blog_read.php?id=763">Pinnochio converting to Islam</a>.</p>
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		<title>Who is this guy???</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Hoagland</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For all those avid readers of 5_pointers, you’re probably asking yourself, who is this guy that has joined this team of bloggers? We’ll, my initial answer is another guy who will probably post more sporadic than the others, though the content of late has been much more frequent. Keep up the good work! For the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=84&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all those avid readers of 5_pointers, you’re probably asking yourself, who is this guy that has joined this team of bloggers?  We’ll, my initial answer is another guy who will probably post more sporadic than the others, though the content of late has been much more frequent.  Keep up the good work! </p>
<p>For the past several months I’ve been itching to get into this blog thing, but due to my schedule there hasn’t been time.  Now God has blessed me with more free time, my desire to take the <strong>gigantic step</strong> into the blogsphere has come.  A great deal of thanks go out to Mark_5 and the rest of the cast for inviting me to be apart of 5_Pointers.  It is an honor and privilege to be apart of a team whose godliness far exceeds that of mine.</p>
<p>The emphasis on gigantic is by no means an exaggeration for me.  I must confess that in the past (and present) writing has not been my strong suite.  Through out all my years of education, except for the last semester of college, I had no desire to write and if it was required the effort was minimal.  Thankfully my degree didn’t require much writing <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>During the past couple years God has done some amazing work in my life and along with that has changed my attitudes toward writing in general.  As God is leading me to my next phase of life where writing is both essential and required, I’m excited to hone my skills on this blog.  I hope to use this blog not only as a place to polish my writing skills, but more significantly a place to share my passion for the King with y’all.  I trust God will continue to bless you and me through this blog.</p>
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		<title>A Generous, Orthodox Review</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have great concern for what I have seen of the emerging church and their elevation of emotion and demotion of doctrine. To be fair, emergent is a broad blanket, and no two emergent figureheads are the same. One spearhead of the movement, Brian McLaren, I have been disturbed to read, and more disturbed by [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=83&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have great concern for what I have seen of the emerging church and their elevation of emotion and demotion of doctrine.  To be fair, emergent is a broad blanket, and no two emergent figureheads are the same.  One spearhead of the movement, Brian McLaren, I have been disturbed to read, and more disturbed by the number of peers who admire him and think him a great theologian.  My uneasiness grows as I have delved into A Generous Orthodoxy, in which McLaren skirts his position on key issues such as Hell.<br />
McLaren, from what I gathered, sees his views on Hell and on salvation -when asked if he is a universalist, exclusivist, or inclusivist- as nonimportant to being a missional Christian.  Expounding his position, he argues that debating about views of Hell (are many, few or none going to Hell) is comparable to seeing a sign for three cities in Florida, when all along he is supposed to be in Los Angeles, he is far off from his goal; reason about Hell and salvation?; he just wants to be missional; he wants to be where people are.<br />
This is at best a non-Biblical abstraction, and at worst a dilusion to many thirsty souls, needing some spirituality and drinking the tainted springs welling up from this teaching.  This veils a clear Gospel message with obscurity, &#8220;&#8230; unless you repent, you will likewise perish,&#8221; (Luke 13:2); &#8220;BEAR fruits in KEEPING with repentance&#8230; Every tree therefore that does not bear GOOD fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire,&#8221; (Luke 3:8-9); &#8220;Enter by the narrow gate.  For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.  For the gate is narrows and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few,&#8221; (Matt 7:13-14); &#8220;Now the works for the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these.  I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God,&#8221; (Galatians 5:19-21); et al.<br />
In stark contrast to this teacher&#8217;s diversion on the subject of Hell, I refer the reader to William Carey, a missionary to India who spent seven years without a convert; he wrote as the treatise for his mission &#8220;An Enquiry into the Obligations of Christians, to Use Means for the Conversion of the Heathens.&#8221;  His thesis did not divorce the reality of heathens going to Hell from his call to be missional; it fueled it.  Eternity weighed more on his heart than the breath of mortality.  May it do so for us and may we learn to engage the proponents and those immersed in these thoughts with kindness, &#8220;able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correction [our] oponents with gentleness.  <strong>GOD</strong> may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth, and they may escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will&#8221; (II Timothy 2:24-26).</p>
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		<title>Men Without Heads</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember a conversation I had with a good friend about sin and to illustrate the nature of sin being non-substance (namely the absence of what should be there) we used this illustration (Men without Heads). If you saw a man without a head, you would think there to be something seriously defective with his [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=82&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a conversation I had with a good friend about sin and to illustrate the nature of sin being non-substance (namely the absence of what should be there) we used this illustration (Men without Heads).  If you saw a man without a head, you would think there to be something seriously defective with his being.  It is no different with bad philosophy and theology.  There are many “Men without Heads” and “Men without Chests” (as you will see Lewis refer) running around today.</p>
<p>As I was reading CS Lewis’s The Abolition of Man (which today would be of humankind because of the offensive nature of the word ‘man’ in reference to humanity), I was struck by how Lewis’s criticism of the growing deconstruction movement and “post-moderns” is applicable to the current “emerging church discussion” (not movement…they are merely talking not acting).  What is more, Lewis also castigates those skeptics of emotion (i.e. dispensationalists) and shows how they too have adopted a false worldview and propagate impossible doctrines.  Lewis in typical fashion, confused me and then delighted me with his poignant commentary of lunacy disguised as philosophy.  Here are a few quotes to illustrate:</p>
<p>On Extreme Fundamentalism</p>
<p>“They see the world around them swayed by emotional propaganda-they have learned from tradition that youth is sentimental-and they conclude that the best thing they can do is to fortify the minds of young people against emotion.  My own experience as a teacher tells an opposite tale.  Of every one pupil who needs to be guarded from a weak excess of sensibility there are three who need to be awakened from the slumber of cold vulgarity.  The task of the modern educator is not to cut down jungles but to irrigate deserts.  The right defense against false sentiments is to inculcate just sentiments.  By starving the sensibility of our pupils we only make them easier prey to the propagandist when he comes.  For famished nature will be avenged and a hard heart is no infallible protection against a soft head.”</p>
<p>“And all the time-such is the tragic-comedy of our situation-we continue to clamor for those very qualities we are rendering impossible.  You can hardly open a periodical without coming across the statement that what our civilization needs is more “drive,” or dynamism, or self-sacrifice, or “creativity”.  In a sort of ghastly simplicity we remove the organ and demand the function.  We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise.  We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.  We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful.”</p>
<p>“From proposition about fact alone no practical conclusion can ever be drawn.  This will preserve society cannot lead to do this except by the mediation of society ought to be preserved.  This will cost you your life cannot lead directly to do no do this: it can lead to is only through a felt desire or an acknowledged duty of self preservation.  The Innovator is trying to get a conclusion in the imperative mood out of premises in the indicative mood: and though he continues trying to all eternity he cannot succeed, for the thing is impossible.”</p>
<p>On Subjectivism in Modern Thought</p>
<p>“Let us regard all ideas of what we ought to do simply as an interesting psychological survival: let us step right out of all that and start doing what we like.  Let us decide for ourselves what man is to be and make him into that: not on any ground of imagined value, but because we want him to be such.  Having mastered our environment, let us now master ourselves and choose our own destiny.  This is a very possible position: and those who hold it cannot be accused of self-contradiction like the half-hearted skeptics who still hope to find “real” values when they have debunked traditional ones.  This is the rejection of the concept of value altogether.”</p>
<p>“Traditional values are to be “debunked” and mankind to be cut out into some fresh shape at the will (which must, by hypothesis, be an arbitrary will) of some few lucky people in one lucky generation which has learned how to do it.  The belief that we can invent “ideologies” at pleasure, and the consequent treatment of mankind as mere specimens, preparations, begins to affect our very language.  Virtue has become integration and diligence dynamism.”</p>
<p>“What I most fear is the reply that I am “only one more” obscurantist, that this barrier, like all previous barriers set up against the advance of [philosophy] can be safely passed.  Such a reply springs from the fatal serialism of the modern imagination- the image of infinite unilinear progression which so haunts our minds.  Because we have to use numbers so much we tend to think of every process as if it must be like the numeral series, where every step, to all eternity, is the same kind of step as the one before.  There are some progressions in which the last step is sui generis—in-commensurable with the others-and in which to go the whole way is to undo all the labour of your previous journey.  To reduce [absolutes] to mere natural product is a step of the kind.  Up to that point, the kind of explanation which explains things away may give us something, though at a heavy cost.  But you cannot go on “explaining away” for ever: you will find that you have explained explanation itself away.  You cannot go on “seeing through” things for ever.  The whole point of seeing through something is to see something through it.  It is good that the window should be transparent, because the street or garden beyond it is opaque.  How if you saw through the garden too?  It is no use trying to “see through” first principles.  If you see through everything, then everything is transparent.  But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world.  To “see through” all things is the same as not to see.”</p>
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		<title>Introspection for the Young Calvinist</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw this article on &#8220;Fad Driven Calvinism&#8221; that I commend to the young, reformed, and restless. I hope this facilitates an evaluation of our motives, methods, and character. My first reaction was to say &#8220;You&#8217;ve got it wrong.&#8221; But after considering the arguement, I see the germ of truth. In fact I was recently [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=81&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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I saw this article on &#8220;<a href="http://strangebaptistfire.com/2006/08/22/fad-driven-calvinism/">Fad Driven Calvinism</a>&#8221; that I commend to the young, reformed, and restless.  I hope this facilitates an evaluation of our motives, methods, and character.</p>
<p>My first reaction was to say &#8220;You&#8217;ve got it wrong.&#8221;  But after considering the arguement, I see the germ of truth.  In fact I was recently talking with my pastor about this phenomenon which has manifested itself in a slightly different form. A cadre of monergistic fundamentalist bloggers suffer from the same problems that this article outlines.  It is so very easy for me to point the finger at others rather than looking in the mirror.</p>
<p>Our monergism and love for God must come from the same work of the Spirit.  We will avoid the absurdities White has cited when we seek Christ in his Word, rather than seeking vanity.</p>
<p>May God grant us repentence where we&#8217;ve erred, and give grace to walk the Calvary road.</p>
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		<title>Bookbinding Your Brains Out!</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/bookbinding-your-brains-out/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently Fruittart called my attention to a gentleman producing his own &#8220;Blank Bible.&#8221; Basically the text of the Bible, interleaved for note-taking. Jonathan Edwards had his own BB that has come into the news recently as Yale is planning to publish this &#8220;Edward&#8217;s Notes Version.&#8221; The benefits of the BB are clear though, it cultivates [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=80&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1172/1959/1600/blank-bible-proverbs.png"><img src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1172/1959/320/blank-bible-proverbs.png" alt="" border="0" /></a>Recently <a href="http://fruittart.wordpress.com">Fruittart</a> called my attention to a <a href="http://spurgeon.wordpress.com">gentleman</a> producing his own &#8220;Blank Bible.&#8221;  Basically the text of the Bible, <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=interleaf&amp;x=0&amp;y=0">interleaved</a> for note-taking.  Jonathan Edwards had his own BB that has come into the news recently as Yale is <a href="http://spurgeon.wordpress.com/2006/08/11/">planning</a> to publish this &#8220;Edward&#8217;s Notes Version.&#8221;</p>
<p>The benefits of the BB are clear though, it  cultivates (in my estimation) two blessings &#8211; 1. it was part of Edwards habit of thinking while reading.  This developed his critical thinking and allowed him to return to thoughts later (see Piper&#8217;s bio of Edwards <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/library/biographies/88edwards.html">here</a>.)   2. insights from the text are easy to find, they&#8217;re right next to the text!  Without being a christian (much less a thinking christian) for very long, I have already lost notes on all kinds of topics &#8211; and I can&#8217;t hold a candle to such a prolific writer as Edwards!  We&#8217;re all thinking about something when we read.  Clearly this is a tool for everyone.</p>
<p>You can check out the three-part Blank Bible Project at the Shephard&#8217;s Scrapbook &#8211; <a href="http://spurgeon.wordpress.com/2006/08/15/building-a-blank-bible-part-1/">1</a>,<a href="http://spurgeon.wordpress.com/2006/08/16/building-a-blank-bible-part-2-the-failure/">2</a>,<a href="http://spurgeon.wordpress.com/2006/08/17/building-a-blank-bible-part-3-the-blank-bible">3</a>.<br />
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While we&#8217;re on the subject of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_binding">book binding</a>, I drove past the local <a href="http://www.prairienet.org/bookbindery/">Lincoln Bookbindery</a> the other day. If you have any book binding needs, I hear they are good (certainly thier webpage shows some sweet bookbinding action.)</p>
<p>Also of interest for the snobs amoung us is <a href="http://www.jmarkbertrand.com/bibles/allans/index.htm">this piece</a> on quality imported leather bound Bibles (ht:<a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com">jt</a>.)  The author&#8217;s prefered Bible bindery is <a href="http://www.bibles-direct.com/index.phtml">Allen&#8217;s</a> of Oxford.  Please feel free to read the website with a decidedly <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_accent">British accent</a>.</p>
<p>As I have recently filled my girly-man purple flower spiral journal, it may be time to embark on a BB project of my own.  Certainly Shephard&#8217;s gives a clear road to Edwardsian hardware!  If anyone has any suggestions on paper considerations (I currently use <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelikan_4001">Pelikan 4001</a> ink) for such a project, I would appreciate it.  I know of some good legal pads that take the ink well, but I am ignorant of quality looseleaf brands.  Trail and error is my present plan of evaluation.<a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1172/1959/1600/pro_tinte_schwarz.jpg"><img src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1172/1959/200/pro_tinte_schwarz.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size:78%;">[pics taken from Shephard's Scrapbook, Wikipedia, and Pelikan respectively]</span></p>
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		<title>Does God Purpose Evil?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently I saw Rick Warren on Fox News (the video clip is available here) and was extremely disappointed in his spurious remarks concerning the &#8220;will&#8221; of God. While I am indeed biased on the subject, having determined that Pastor Warren is not necessarily the most theologically sound pastor, I should hope that he would at [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=79&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family:times new roman;">Recently I saw Rick Warren on Fox News (the video clip is available </span><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/dayside/"><span style="font-family:times new roman;">here</span></a><span style="font-family:times new roman;">) and was extremely disappointed in his spurious remarks concerning the &#8220;will&#8221; of God. While I am indeed biased on the subject, having determined that Pastor Warren is not necessarily the most theologically sound pastor, I should hope that he would at least uphold the omnipotence and omniscience of God over every thought and deed of every human being whether it is for evil or good. It is not acceptable to say that things happen that are outside of God&#8217;s will in order to mollify the masses who have themselves at the center of their own universe. God is not at the mercy of human &#8220;free will&#8221;. Regardless of your theology of free will and predestination the Bible is unwavering in its preponderance of this truth, God&#8217;s purpose will be accomplished! (Psalm 33:10-11, Prov 19:21, Isaiah 14:27, Isaiah 46:10, etc&#8230;)</p>
<p>While the purpose of this post is not to vituperate Warren&#8217;s theology as a whole, I feel it necessary to expose these remarks for the sake of God&#8217;s glory and praise. God is not glorified in a creation that has itself as the pinnacle but rather those who recognize their utter depravity and repent of their acarpous thoughts and attitudes, and even this is a result of God&#8217;s working in us and is not dependent upon human volition but God&#8217;s Holy Spirit. It is a dangerous line to walk, that is proclaiming that God is at the mercy of human free will, and I for one refuse to capitulate the idea that because evil happens God is somehow powerless, looking down at humanity with complete impotence.</p>
<p>I will be fair and say that I do agree with Warren when he says that there are two reponses one can have in the face of evil, either get mad at God or grow closer to God, for this is knocking at the door of the truth of God&#8217;s purposing evil in the first place. If I were to have called into the show that day I would have asked Pastor Warren to explain the word&#8217;s of Job.</p>
<p>Job is such an interesting case because if anyone had right to be angry with God, seemingly, it was Job. In the very beginning of the book we are told that Job &#8220;was blameless and upright, one who feared God and turned away from evil&#8221;. This verse is even more poignant when we experience the pain which Job suffers in reading the rest of the book. In order to address those topics however, I would like to look at the final verses of Job which, I believe, capture the realities of human suffering and the power of God amidst them.</p>
<p>&#8220;I know that you can do all things, and that no purpose of yours can be thwarted, Therefore I have uttered what I did not understand, things too wonderful for me, which I did not know, I had heard of you by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees you; therefore I despise myself, and repent in dust and ashes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Often times we hear people say that God can use all the evil for his purposes. While this is true, it is only half true, and gives us a great insight into the workings of God. Notice the very first sentence of Job&#8217;s personal indictment &#8220;I know you can do all things, no purpose of yours is thwarted&#8221;. This is an amazing statement for a few reasons. First, Job proclaims the omnipotence of God, &#8220;you can do all things&#8221;. This means that he knows God could both keep him from incurring the suffering or stopping it at any moment. Not only did God allow it to happen in the first place, Job suffered through it without ceasing until everything was taken away. Job didn&#8217;t just get a taste of it, he experienced the loss of all things we hold dear. This statement of his is even more telling when coupled with what follows, &#8220;no purpose of yours can be thwarted&#8221;. What an amazing testimony to reality of God&#8217;s workings. In this one sentence, we see Job declaring that God can do all things, both keep and stop from suffering but then he goes on to say that not only could he have done those things, he purposed it to happen. God can use all evil to our advantage is true, but only half true. The reality is that God purposes all evil to our advantage. &#8220;Should we accept good from God and not adversity?&#8221; Talk about throwing a wrench into the apologist attitude of Warren and the open theists!</p>
<p>Job continues to explain, &#8220;Therefore I have uttered what I did not understand, things to wonderful for me, which I did not know&#8221;. It is here that we get a glimpse into the realities of human suffering and its intended consequence. Job did in fact proclaim the truth about God throughout his ordeal. The problem with Job was that he was simply coping with the problem and not looking ahead to the prize which awaited him. &#8220;The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away. Blessed be the name of the LORD&#8221; (Job 1:21). After being covered with boils he says, &#8220;Shall we indeed accept good from God and not accept adversity?&#8221; (Job 2:10). While these are true statements, as I said they are mere coping agents, not saturated with the truth of God&#8217;s promises. This is evident in Job&#8217;s cursing the day of his birth (Job 3), or declare his hopelessness (Job 7). The reality is that he &#8220;uttered things he did not know&#8221;. Job&#8217;s response has now revealed this, God can do all things, God purposes evil and we don&#8217;t know what it is all necessarily for. Our inclination though is to doubt and curse. We can proclaim the truth &#8220;blessed be the name of the Lord&#8221; but if our life is not built on the promises of God, when the hot sun comes, it will scorch the vine that gives us shade as we curse our existance.</p>
<p>The final declaration of Job is quite possibly the most profound for it is here that we see the fruition of all the suffering. &#8220;I had heard of you by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees you; therefore I despise myself, and repent in dust and ashes.&#8221; Job was upright, followed God, shunned away from evil but to that point he had merely &#8216;heard of God&#8217;. The goal of every Godly person should in some way or another be tied to this idea exclaimed in the Psalms &#8220;taste and see that the Lord is good&#8221; (Psalm 34:8). We have all been told by someone we know &#8220;oh you have to taste this (fill in the blank), it is so good&#8221;. The reality is that merely saying the words, and us hearing them, doesn&#8217;t really help us to experience the delectable, savory treat they are describing to us. It is necessary to taste it ourselves, without which we remain in ignorance. It is at this moment that Job has his epiphany, so to speak. All of the suffering has culminated into this proclamation &#8220;I had heard of you but now my eye sees you&#8221;! &#8220;Taste and see that the Lord is good&#8221;! The Lord is the feast of life, without which we will be spiritually malnourished. We can know truths about God and declare them without sin but we must be firmly established on the promise that God is enough, he is all we need for when the sun comes up we may be like the plant who spring up in the shallow soil, only to be burned and tossed away.</p>
<p>Oh that we might live in the reality that life is NOT of ultimate value, at least not THIS life. Every trial, every evil is purposed by God to proclaim His glory and our wretchedness. We should fall prostrate at the glorious truth that God has kept us from experiencing his wrath soley on the basis of His grace and nothing more. To be sure I am not saying that God DOES evil himself but it is no doubt willed BY Him for a purpose. He doesn&#8217;t merely work with it, he goes in with a plan and accomplishes it. This side of heaven it may not make sense, but I refuse to adopt a theology that strips God of his power in order to harmonize the mystery of God with our tendency to elevate our self-worth. </span></p>
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		<title>Augustus, Sweet Heart! Save some room for later!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5264566.stm">Yeah, it&#8217;s kind of like that. </a></p>
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		<title>Comment Moderation on 5pointers</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently I deleted a comment on this blog that was off topic. The comment was a good one, and made by a friend. It did not however have anything to do with the post it was in response to. I know I don&#8217;t have a stated policy of comment moderation here at 5pointers, mainly because [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=77&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently I deleted a comment on this blog that was off topic.  The comment was a good one, and made by a friend.  It did not however have anything to do with the post it was in response to.</p>
<p><a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1172/1959/1600/thumbs_up.jpg"><img src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1172/1959/320/thumbs_up.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a>I know I don&#8217;t have a stated policy of comment moderation here at 5pointers, mainly because it has never been an issue&#8230; let&#8217;s face it, it&#8217;s usually pretty slow around here.  I hope this does not discourage commenting, but instead encourages discussion relevant to the topic.</p>
<p>So, if you comment on 5pointers on a post with respect to a different post on a different blog, simply because you are responding to a 5pointers contributor, your comment will be deleted.  No hard feelings, I just want to keep things on topic.  Send me an email (via my profile) to get ahold of me if you don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m taking the time to keep up w/ my part of the discussion on your blog.  Please keep comments relevant to the topic being discussed, if the comment is (by 5pointer&#8217;s discretion) sufficiently off-topic, it will be removed.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Mark</p>
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		<title>Fitting for Friday</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 06:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw this series of posts this morning on sharing the Gospel with Muslims. With this sort of thing, one must always consider the source, and I do think it&#8217;s a good one. This is Pastor Thabiti Anyabwile, formerly of Capitol Hill Baptist Church and now of First Baptist Church of Grand Cayman. You can [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=76&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this series of posts this morning on sharing the Gospel with Muslims.  With this sort of thing, one must always consider the source, and I do think it&#8217;s a good one.  This is <a href="http://purechurch.blogspot.com/2006/07/from-mecca-to-calvary.html">Pastor Thabiti Anyabwile</a>, formerly of Capitol Hill Baptist Church and now of First Baptist Church of Grand Cayman.  You can follow this link to his conversion story, <a href="http://purechurch.blogspot.com/2006/07/from-mecca-to-calvary.html"><span style="font-style:italic;">From Mecca to Calvary</span></a>.<br />
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Here are the posts thus far in the series on Witnessing to Muslims&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://purechurch.blogspot.com/2006/08/when-witnessing-to-muslims-know-gospel_09.html">1.  Know the Gospel</a></p>
<p><a href="http://purechurch.blogspot.com/2006/08/when-witnessing-to-muslims-renounce.html">2.  Without Fear</a></p>
<p>Stay tuned for future installments.</p>
<p>Also, if you are looking for a good &#8220;hands-on&#8221; resource I strongly recommend <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/096724806X/sr=1-1/qid=1155295330/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-7900545-9001547?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books"><span style="font-style:italic;">A Muslim&#8217;s Heart</span></a>.  Sorry, my copy is currently lent out.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(HT:<a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2006/08/witnessing-to-muslims.html">JT</a>)</p>
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		<title>Imputation Imbroglio</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fires continue to burn as (praise God) John Piper is back from his sabbatical, and preached a sermon (manuscript, audio) on Justification that seems to be directly related to N.T. Wright. If you haven&#8217;t already, you can read a great post on imputed righteousness from Zechariah 3 over at Mike&#8217;s blog. If you want [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=75&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fires continue to burn as (praise God) John Piper is back from his sabbatical, and preached a sermon (<a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/library/sermons/06/080606.html">manuscript</a>, <a href="http://www.biblicalpreaching.info/sermons.php">audio</a>) on Justification that seems to be directly related to N.T. Wright.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t already, you can read a great <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/2006/08/08/zechariah-3-and-imputation/">post</a> on imputed righteousness from <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zech%203;&amp;version=47;">Zechariah 3</a> over at <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/">Mike&#8217;s blog</a>.</p>
<p>If you want some rabid discussion of Piper&#8217;s sermon, you can get it <a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2006/08/piper-sermon-on-justification.html">here</a>.</p>
<p>If you want critical commentary on Piper&#8217;s sermon, you can get it <a href="http://woodchipsandmusings.blogspot.com/2006/08/justification-new-perspective-on-paul.html">here</a>.  (Note, I respect A.B. Caneday after reading his contribution to <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1581344627/sr=1-1/qid=1155133210/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-7329345-3204968?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books"><span style="font-style:italic;">Beyond the Bounds</span></a>, edited by Piper, Taylor, and Helseth.  His chapter on anthropomorphism in God&#8217;s self-revelation is awesome.)</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d rather just take a deep breath and watch a video example of &#8220;plundering the Egyptians&#8221;, you can do that <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5267894961075966307&amp;q=baby+got+book">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Some thoughts on N.T. Wright</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 06:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#8217;t know anything about the NPP or N.T. Wright? That&#8217;s ok, join the club. But I can clue you in to some helpful information I&#8217;ve recently discovered. The books in which N.T. Wright is named as “Tom Wright” are the books for you and me. That&#8217;s right, his Paul for Everyone (read: “Paul for Dummies”) [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=74&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know anything about the NPP or N.T. Wright?  That&#8217;s ok, join the club.  But I can clue you in to some helpful information I&#8217;ve recently discovered.  The books in which N.T. Wright is named as “Tom Wright” are the books for you and me.  That&#8217;s right, his <span style="font-style:italic;">Paul for Everyone </span>(read: “Paul for Dummies”) is for everyone, I&#8217;m coming in through the servant&#8217;s entrance.</p>
<p>Well, on to the thought I wanted to share.  After mulling over (subconsciously, it&#8217;s great to be an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBTI">N</a>!) the <a href="http://sacradoctrina.blogspot.com/2006/07/tom-wright-and-reactions.html">article</a> I linked to <a href="http://5pointers.blogspot.com/2006/08/something-for-everyone.html">yesterday</a> on Wright, some issues came to mind.  One of the “problems” with Wright from the conservative evangelical community (according to the article) was that foundational thoughts in the NPP interpretative scheme have the wrong academic pedigree.  This simply means that liberal scholars thought these things up, and as conservatives (and liberals!) are often disposed, the conclusions are rejected out of hand.  The point is then made that we should be glad old Tom saw the diamonds in the rough over there in liberaldom.</p>
<p>At first read I accepted that point and moved on.  However something <a href="http://www.aomin.org">James White</a> said in his <a href="http://www.dayspringsermons.org/sept03.htm">lecture series on Wright</a>* from (Wright&#8217;s text) <span style="font-style:italic;">What Saint Paul Really Said</span>, stuck out to me.  Having read that first chapter of <span style="font-style:italic;">WSPRS</span>, I found White&#8217;s (not Wright&#8217;s!) point to be valid.  Namely, the charge of the &#8216;wrong pedigree&#8217; may be motivation for some, but if you examine Wright&#8217;s recounting of the last century or so of Pauline study, the liberal presuppositions directly affect the outcome.  Allow me to get to the point.  Reading the text from the perspective of literature (or whatever liberal scholars call it, what I mean is not as Scripture, all of it&#8230; inerrant God breathed Word, roger?) produces conclusions that are then invalid.  I am not going to listen to Bultmann tell me my interpretive scheme is not properly recognizing all of Scripture if he takes passages that do not fit into his scheme as gloss (or Paul&#8217;s own mistakes!)  Does Wright do the same thing?  I&#8217;m not sure.  Word on the street is that he is not an inerrantist, but all I know now is that he is building (heavily) from the conclusions of Sanders and his ilk.  The charge of &#8220;wrong pedigree&#8221; sure seems like a strawman, untill I realized, wait, they produce bad stuff!  Sadly, it is from that &#8216;bad stuff&#8217; that much of the so-called NPP takes shape.</p>
<p><a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1172/1959/1600/torn_page.jpg"><img src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1172/1959/320/torn_page.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a>These theories are from the other side of the tracks, sure, but it doesn&#8217;t matter if they are from my block, they fail the test.  If <a href="http://www.desiringGod.org">John Piper</a> tried to pass this stuff off on me, I&#8217;d reject it.  Could you imagine?  “Well, Paul didn&#8217;t actually write this bit” or “Paul didn&#8217;t mean to say that, he was still figuring that part out, but I&#8217;ve put it together.”  Errrnt.  Wrong answer, thanks for playing.</p>
<p>As far as the NPP is concerned and Wright in particular, I&#8217;m now weighing the opportunity cost of continuing much farther in his work.  I may comment on his Galations commentary that I find fascinating, although sketchy.  It may just be me, but in reading it I can&#8217;t shake the feeling that there is a lot of agenda alongside the text.</p>
<p>*download the zipped mp3s, scroll down to check the title over those three talks.</p>
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		<title>Something for Everyone</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 12:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*After seeing this critical series of articles (1, 2, 3) on expository preaching, I saw this gracious and well written reply. Enjoy. *Another Victory for Superdupont in what was once the heart of Anti-France. French people everywhere may rest easy. *An insightful and sympathetic post on N.T. Wright that, if you are interested, is good. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=73&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*After seeing this critical series of articles (<a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2006/07/the_myth_of_exp.html">1</a>, <a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2006/07/the_myth_of_exp_2.html"></a><a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2006/07/the_myth_of_exp_1.html">2</a>, <a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2006/07/the_myth_of_exp_2.html">3</a>) on expository preaching, I saw this gracious and well written <a href="http://www.thirdavenue.org/?p=376">reply</a>.  Enjoy.</p>
<p>*Another Victory for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdupont">Superdupont</a> in what was <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5240572.stm">once the heart of Anti-France.</a><br />
French people everywhere may rest easy.</p>
<p>*An insightful and sympathetic <a href="http://sacradoctrina.blogspot.com/2006/07/tom-wright-and-reactions.html">post</a> on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N.T._Wright">N.T. Wright</a> that, if you are interested, is good.</p>
<p>*A great <a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/commentary_read.php?cdate=2006-08-04">post on offense in society</a> from <a href="http://www.albertmohler.com">Al Mohler</a> deserves some attention.</p>
<p>*And for the furious among us, you can go to a <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/5251952.stm">bar in eastern China </a>to vent your frustrations.  (Note that the alternative listed in the article is treatment from psychology students volunteering from local universities &#8211; yikes.)</p>
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		<title>Committed to Commitments</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[When was the last time you read through what your church is ‘about’? For me it has been several months since I read through the ‘core commitments’ of my church. During the process of joining the church these were covered in the “New (Potential?) Members Class.” At the time I read through them and seriously [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=72&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>     When was the last time you read through what your church is ‘about’?  For me it has been several months since I read through the ‘core commitments’ of my church.  During the process of joining the church these were covered in the “New (Potential?) Members Class.” At the time I read through them and seriously thought about what this body has set up as their goals and methods.  Nobody wants to hitch their wagon to a sinking ship or sign the line underneath unbiblical doctrine.  So in that regard, for the visitor, for the prospective member, these commitments are great.</p>
<p>        But wait a tic!  These aren’t just for new people are they?  If these are the commitments of the local church, that implies they are at the forefront of her mind.  These are the things that we love and are convinced are our duty that we set them before us as commitments.  We are going to strive for these things, this is serious and requiring our thought, effort, and dreams.<br />
As I alluded to above, when was the last time I looked at them?  I can’t give a specific time, only the vague reply: ‘months.’  This can’t be right.  This must be changed!  Therefore, it’s time for action on these very points!</p>
<p>        At this point, God gave me a devotional idea that is the entire purpose of sharing this rant.  Why not pray through these ten commitments over the coming days (weeks, months, years, [eek] decades) for our church?  We know that the chief end of man is to glorify God <span style="font-style:italic;">by</span> enjoying him for ever (christian hedonist tweak), why not pray for myself and the church that this commitment would be on the forefront of our minds, and be the desire of our hearts in the days ahead?  Why not pray that the “commitment to knowing, loving, and obeying Christ” would burn in our hearts such that it would be the evident passion of our existence.</p>
<p>So would you join me in praying through these over the next ten days?  Even if you are not a member of my church, go search through that dusty drawer, pull out that forgotten folder, track them down on that deserted derelict disk (“ok ok” you say, “I got the point, stop the misdemeanor alliteration”), find the commitments of your congregation and ask God to bless you in those areas.<br />
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      A further devotional exercise is to find the verses upon which the commitments were framed.  What is the Scriptural foundation of the commitments?  I think praying through those verses are a mighty blessing in addition to the pleading for the application of them to the body.</p>
<p>     The following are those Core Commitments I thought were awesome when I joined this church earlier in 2006.  I look forward to seeing how God will answer the prayers of blessing the congregation concerning them.  Will you pray?</p>
<p>CEFC Core Commitments<br />
1.The chief end of man is to glorify God and to enjoy Him forever. We are committed to knowing, loving, and obeying Christ, and to maintaining this as our first priority.</p>
<p>2.We are committed to maintaining a regular rhythm of corporate prayer for the revival of the church and the extension of Christ&#8217;s kingdom.</p>
<p>3.We are committed to exegetical teaching of the Scriptures as the backbone of the educational ministry of the church.</p>
<p>4.We are committed to corporately praising God, for He is worthy. We will prepare our hearts for worship, seeking to encounter Him who inhabits the praises of His people.</p>
<p>5.We are committed to living holy lives that reflect the character of God.</p>
<p>6.We are committed to loving one another sincerely, deeply, with actions and in truth.</p>
<p>7.We are committed to living among those who do not know Christ and to bearing witness to His grace in our lives by word and deed.</p>
<p>8.We are committed to every member ministry in accordance with our spiritual gifts, so that our church may be joined and held together by every supporting ligament, growing and building itself up in love as each part does its work.</p>
<p>9.We are committed to training and multiplying leadership.</p>
<p>10.We are committed to giving generously of our people and finances to extend the global church planting movement, with an emphasis on unreached peoples.</p>
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		<title>This is happening now&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following is a letter to the President that a friend of a friend of a friend wrote. It is authentic, which is why I changed the author&#8217;s name (I kept the bold font where he had it, so the only change is the name at the end). The author encouraged the forwarding to contacts [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=71&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-style:italic;">The following is a letter to the President that a friend of a friend of a friend wrote.  It is authentic, which is why I changed the author&#8217;s name (I kept the bold font where he had it, so the only change is the name at the end).  The author encouraged the forwarding to contacts if the reciever found this letter worthwhile.  I do think it is worthwhile, but I detest most forwards.  So I&#8217;m posting this here for public viewing and comment.  (Peter and Wendy, or the Lost Boys, if you think this shouldn&#8217;t be posted, please let me know and I&#8217;ll remove it.)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-style:italic;">If one is interested in the political views of a Lebenese American and/or the recent politics of greater Palestine, read the following.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-style:italic;">Regardless of your views the people of Lebanon and Israel need our prayers currently.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-style:italic;">-Mark</span></p>
<p>*************************************</p>
<p>President George W. Bush<br />
The White House<br />
July 19, 2006<br />
Dear Mr. President,<br />
I have been an American citizen for many years, and I have voted for you twice. The first time it was a pleasure but the second time it was an effort.<br />
As a former Lebanese citizen, the invasion of Lebanon by Israel was, and is still, a nightmare experience for me. To see my new country America, not only giving the green light to Israel but encouraging it to continue to shred Lebanon to pieces, blows my mind. Israel blames the fragile democratic government of Lebanon for not controlling Hezbollah. If our mighty military presence in Iraq has not been able to control the relatively small militia of Muktada Sadr how can we expect the government of Lebanon to control Hezbollah?<br />
From what I have heard on the news, Israel have had plans in the making to attack Lebanon for the last five years, and the kidnapping of the two Israeli soldiers was but an excuse to put their plan into action. The attitude of the present government in Israel towards the Palestinians and towards Hezbollah is expressed best in August 30, 2002 by Moshe Yaalon, the Israeli army chief of staff: “The Palestinians must be made to understand in the deepest recesses of their consciences that they are a defeated people.” It is sad to see that my new country America under your administration, along with the Religious Right, are encouraging the extremists in Israel to become the mainstream. What would it take for Israel and for America to learn the lesson that the abuse of power does not solve problems but compounds them.<br />
Here are a few lessons from history.<br />
1. In 1967 Israel had the huge success of defeating all the Arabs in six days. The P.L.O. at that time was a weak and insignificant organization. The 1967 war convinced the P.L.O.<br />
that the Arabs can not defend the Palestinians and that they need to take the responsibility for reclaiming “their land”. In a real sense the “1967 smashing success of the Israelis” <span style="font-weight:bold;">gave birth to a new P.L.O.</span> As a result of that “success” Israel continues to live with the <span style="font-weight:bold;">consequences</span>.<br />
2. In 1982 Israel invaded Lebanon to remove the P.L.O. and as a result of that invasion <span style="font-weight:bold;">Hezbollah was born</span>. Israel gave birth to Hezbollah and today it is living with the <span style="font-weight:bold;">consequences</span> of that conquest.<br />
3. When the Arab countries gave the P.L.O. the right and the privilege to become the sole spokesman of the Palestinians, Israel did not like that. So for three years Israel supported, financially and by all means, a little organization with the name Hamas. That little organization, Hamas, did not like the P.L.O. because they thought that Arafat was a compromiser. Israel wanted to weaken the P.L.O. by strengthening its critics and Israel <span style="font-weight:bold;">gave birth to Hamas</span>. Three years later Israel realized that Hamas is more dangerous than the P.L.O. and that is what probably convinced Prime Minister Rabin to begin negotiating with the P.L.O. The lesson that Israel needs to learn is this: “Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” According to Israel’s radio, as it appeared in the “Washington Report”<br />
in November 2001, when Prime Minister Sharon was not aware that the microphone of a journalist was on, he reprimanded Foreign Minister Peres saying: “Every time we do something, you tell me Americans will do this and do that. I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure. We Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it.”<br />
4. As Americans we want to propagate democracy in the Middle East. One of the expressions of that democracy was the free and fair elections carried by the Palestinians that brought Hamas to power. Neither America nor Israel liked that democracy. For the last several months the<br />
Palestinians in Gaza have been living in the largest concentration camp in the world. In their daily oppressed and hopeless lives a few stupid Palestinians sought revenge by kidnapping one soldier and killing a few others. That act gave Israel the excuse to carry out its planned agenda: “The Palestinians must be made to understand in the deepest recesses of their consciences that they are a defeated people.” A friend of mine told me recently that he was moved very deeply by what he saw on Al Jazeera TV. A Palestinian woman in Gaza who lost several members of her family in an Israeli attack was carrying two small boys as she talked to the camera. She said that she always hated terrorism and the fundamentalists. But after what happened she vowed that she will raise her two sons to become suicide bombers. <span style="font-weight:bold;">What are we and Israel breeding</span>? What <span style="font-weight:bold;">consequences</span> will we have to face ten years from now?<br />
5. An old lesson from the Old Testament comes from the life of David. Most people assume that the biggest sin that David committed with the most dangerous consequences came as a result of his sin of adultery and murder. He committed adultery with Bathsheba and murdered her husband with a few other soldiers. In 2 Samuel 24 we see another sin that David committed that we hardly notice which had far more <span style="font-weight:bold;">dangerous consequences</span>. Actually it resulted in the death of 70,000 Jews. That sin was his <span style="font-weight:bold;">abuse of power</span>.<br />
Mr. President. Do you fully understand the <span style="font-weight:bold;">consequences of the decisions that you are making</span>?<br />
Sincerely,<br />
Arnold</p>
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Now that my summer class on <a href="http://www.theopedia.com/Predestination">Predestination</a> is complete (no kidding, I took a class exclusively discussing <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination">predestination</a>&#8230; yeah) I&#8217;m getting pumped up for <a href="http://www.urbanaseminary.org/academic_courses_fall.html">Greek this fall</a>.  Realizing my own nescience per <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_grammer">English Grammar</a>, I intend to study up on all the intagibles of one&#8217;s primary tongue before embarking on a second language.  Also, it doesn&#8217;t hurt that <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com">Isaiah543</a>&#8216;s sermon <a href="http://www.communityefc.org/mp3/sermons/1997/CEFC_1997062900_16kbps_mono.mp3">link du jour</a> had a grammar lesson in it!</p>
<p>Well, I stumbled upon this today, the <a href="http://grammarerror.blogspot.com/">GrammarError blog</a>.  So while I&#8217;m studying, I&#8217;ll aspire to keep my posts off there radar.  (yes, that was intentional)   <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Never Enough Time&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 19:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There will never be enough time for me to post the little investigation into the ethical quandries of Genesis that was inaugurated at Bible study a few weeks ago. So, here is a link to A Puritan&#8217;s Mind, specifically an article on Kierkegaard&#8216;s concept of Teleological Suspension*. Since this topic came up in study in [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=69&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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There will never be enough time for me to post the little investigation into the ethical quandries of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_%28disambiguation%29">Genesis</a> that was inaugurated at Bible study a few weeks ago.  So, here is a link to <a href="http://www.apuritansmind.com">A Puritan&#8217;s Mind</a>, specifically an <a href="http://www.apuritansmind.com/Apologetics/TeleologicalSuspension.htm"><span style="font-weight:bold;">article</span></a> on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kierkegaard">Kierkegaard</a>&#8216;s concept of Teleological Suspension*.  Since this topic came up in study in passing, I thought I should look it up and read a little.  To me the concept that cracked the whole discussion open, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka">that &#8216;Ah-Ha!&#8217; moment</a>, was being reminded that we all are depraved.  I think the <a href="http://www.apuritansmind.com/Apologetics/TeleologicalSuspension.htm">article</a> is smashing.</p>
<p>(*look at the section of the article on his (Kierkegaard&#8217;s) critics, and you&#8217;ll see a bit about this concept, sorry I&#8217;m not supplying more <a href="http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/journals/tr/archive/volume10/Katz.html">links</a> or descriptions of Ethical or Teleological Suspension&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>Fav Comic Strip</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 16:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In light of the French national football team beating Portugal and breaking into the World Cup Finals, I thought it appropriate to point out the best comic ever made. Superdupont [i think i've just fed the trolls...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=68&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In light of the French national football team <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2006/4991632.stm">beating Portugal</a> and breaking into the World Cup Finals, I thought it appropriate to point out the best comic ever made.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdupont">Superdupont</a></p>
<p>[i think i've just fed the trolls...]</p>
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		<title>Playing for Keeps</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 12:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>larry5</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I was about six years old, I remember playing tee-ball. Of that time, little about the games themselves sticks out, yet one memory is clear. Three-quarters of the way through the season, I decided that rather than shaking the hands of the people on the other team, I would just spit on kid&#8217;s hand [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=67&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was about six years old, I remember playing tee-ball. Of that time, little about the games themselves sticks out, yet one memory is clear. Three-quarters of the way through the season, I decided that rather than shaking the hands of the people on the other team, I would just spit on kid&#8217;s hand as I walked down the line.<br />
It was funny until I did that the last game of the season. As usual, I spit on each of their hands, until I got to the end of the line. Their coach walked behind all their players. With my eyes down, aiming at each hand that went by, I did not notice the coach. He saw it and quickly horse-collared me. He marched me around until he found my parents.<br />
Did I really do anything that bad? I asked myself. His firm grip told me I did.<br />
My dad greeted him with a smile; they had been old high school friends. The coach did not return the smile, but gruffly asked, &#8220;Is this your boy??&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Yeah,&#8221; my dad replied swallowing hard.<br />
The coach told my dad what happened, and the look of warmth in my dad&#8217;s face flushed to burning anger.<br />
Afterwards the teams met together to have ice cream and celebrate the end of the season. I did not enjoy this as I might have, staring into my sundae and dread what was coming when I got home.<br />
In games you have sportsmanship. In games you have rules and discipline. If these are abandoned, if the boundaries are burned down, there is chaos; the game is no fun, the positive is not affirmed, the negative is not reproved and as such, detracts from the whole.<br />
But where is the relevance between this story and today&#8217;s events?<br />
Well, about a week ago, the PCUSA (Presbyterian Church USA) voted that local congregations may appoint homosexual clergy and church leaders, if they so choose. Like me spitting on the hands of other players, the PCUSA assembly spit on the hands of all who seek to live godly lives within this denomination. Where before local bodies would face some sort of reprimand for endorsing homosexual clergy, now local leaders have received consent to appoint such leaders, metaphorically spitting on the hands of those who maintain the standard of godliness for those with oversight of the congregation. The vote has said that it is ok sportsmanship for some to shake hands while others spit on those passing by and then spit on the Word of God and say, <em>No thank you, we have progressed and become more tolerant and we have found truth and right is not rooted in your archaic laws, but in our feelings, inclinations, and predispositions</em>.<br />
Here, as opposed to a child’s tee-ball game, the stakes are not loss of an ice cream cone and a pat on the back at the end of a game; here the stakes are the gaining of or loss of soul. A church assembly condoning sexual immorality and leaving the God who gave them does not liberate man from being faithful to God&#8217;s Word.<br />
“And [Jesus] said to his disciples, &#8216;Temptations to sin are sure to come, but woe to the one through whom they come! It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin. Pay attention to yourselves! If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him,” Luke 17:1-3.<br />
This is clear, but the PCUSA paraphrase of verse three might read, “if your brother sins, ordain him.” The message is that that those in leadership have the responsibility not to endorse or be posterboys for sin (Galatians 6:19-21), but they ought to be extremely circumspect in their own lives (James 3:1), watching that they do not cause the little ones to sin. For all the little ones seeking God and striving night and day for relief from their burdens, from a heavy heart, a guilty conscience, a stalking past of abuse, a sexually deviant background, the solution is not to permit more behaviors among the shepherds of the church, but present the little ones with the God who asks to shoulder their sins and make them new creations.<br />
Please look here for a statement of those in the church body who have spoken against this divisive ruling: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.presbycoalition.org/GA5statement.htm">http://www.presbycoalition.org/GA5statement.htm</a></p>
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		<title>DaVinci</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 02:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The word genius is conferred to few as an apithet, but certainly it applies to Leonardo DaVinci. As I visited a display of his labors this weekend at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry, I became gripped with just how much of a genius he was. The singular aspect of his work that impressed [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=66&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word genius is conferred to few as an apithet, but certainly it applies to Leonardo DaVinci. As I visited a display of his labors this weekend at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry, I became gripped with just how much of a genius he was. The singular aspect of his work that impressed me more than any other was how he was able to take the breadth of his learning and make many areas of study subservient to the one he was focusing on- whether using geometry to enhance the beauty of paintings, studying water currents for the design of flying apparatus that would sail on the air, or harnessing the properties of physics in civil engineering to design more efficient water transportation devices. He made use of each area and it seemed even if he was designing a machine, he wanted it to have an aesthetic, but functional, beauty. He was a master not because he saw one area as independent from the rest, but interdependent on the others.<br />
DaVinci strikes me as a rare genius because he could be called not only an artist or sculptor, but an engineer and a mathematician too. There seems a sharp contrast between these two fields, of the freeform and unrestrained liberality of art on the one hand and the suffocatingly stringent rigorous nature of the engineers who found their understandings based on proofs, theories, and laws on the other. The two fields are disparate to many and cause sides to be chosen by those in each; the artist esteems the heart and scoffs at delving too deeply into the nature of things, they just are, he says, and by delving too deeply into mysteries you miss the blessing; the logician elevates the mind and harnesses its power as a machine to crank out all matter of formulas and principles while looking with apprehension at the volatile character of the emotions. The emotions to the engineer are altogether too fickle to be trusted while the mind to the artist is too callous.<br />
DaVinci showed that by more thoroughly understanding one subject, we can be helped in others by broadening our scope of the way things work. DaVinci showed the body is not just anatomy and physiology, it is mechanics and physics, it is structure, geometry, and so much more. Neither the human body, nor the body of Christ is broken up into one group that defines what it is; it is many parts, many functions, and many unique areas meant to complement each other and work together.</p>
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		<title>Superscam</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2006 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can tell a lot about a time period and a people by their heroes. The Greeks, for example, sported a plethora of gods and goddesses many with their unique virtues and all with their vices. One of their most renowned, Hercules, was known for completing his great labors. He defeated the nine-headed hydra, tracked [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=65&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can tell a lot about a time period and a people by their heroes. The Greeks, for example, sported a plethora of gods and goddesses many with their unique virtues and all with their vices. One of their most renowned, Hercules, was known for completing his great labors. He defeated the nine-headed hydra, tracked down and captured the pet stag of Diana, and bound the monster Cerebus, the Guardian of the Underworld. But why did he have to complete the labors? He murdered his children and then was given twelve labors to atone for his actions. We learn this man, son of the god Zeus and daughter of a human, was a hard-worker who made amends for his actions by doing many nearly impossible tasks. He earned his place in heaven among the other gods and shows the self-reliant fortitude of a culture whose ships spanned the seas, whose literature, philosophies and histories shaped much of history, and whose ruins greet us today of a people and of an ideal that is no more.<br />
We learn a lot about another people from history in the records of Israel too. For those whose hearts did not turn aside to other gods, to burn their children as sacrifices to Molech or enter into forbidden unions with the temple prostitutes, we find they had a different kind of hero. David was one, a warrior, a king, and a man after the heart of God. When he committed a great sin we see that he turned to God, he repented and felt terrible for his wickedness (Ps 38, 51, et al). One of David’s greatest weaknesses was his greatest strength, by the unbosoming of his heart in his failings, we see where he derived his strength. The power, the glory, the source of David’s strength and courage was not his own resilience but the invisible God he worshipped. When the armies of the nation of Israel were being openly mocked, David, only a youth, understood the invectives to be railings against God himself and stood against this monster and showed the might of God; David’s might and skill did not slay the giant, the intervention of the God he put his faith in did. David was just a man, but one who demonstrated that there is a God.<br />
This brings me to a shift I have seen in our own culture. Growing up and watching the old Superman’s, I noticed a respectful distance kept in between the heroes. Lois and Superman may have met and flown around the world at night, but it ended on the porch with both clothed and in delight from the time spent in each other’s company. Now it seems Superman may still be a hero while entering into a sacred union with a woman while swearing no promise or commitment to her. She not only consents to it, but upon his departure and the absence of his forwardness, she becomes more forward herself and quickly couples with another man so that she thinks her child from him and not the earlier man. Who can entrust themselves to such perfidious and inconstant hearts in the closest of unions?<br />
It has become the more general view in America that this treatment of physical intimacy is not only prevalent but acceptable. The wedding band is not only passé, but it has become synonymous with a prison shackle; the touch of the gold ring fastens a band of iron around the soul, depresses the heart and limits the freedom and fun of the wearer. Superman rushes in to save the police in a robbery and to help a woman in a car accident, but shows little more than jealousy when he finds another man is living with the mother of his child. This does not stop him from exercising his other virtues, such as eavesdropping on their private conversations and coveting the kisses of a woman now living with another. This culture has swallowed the bitter self-medicating placebo of rushing to help in immediate disaster while disposing the bottle of promise and commitment.<br />
The one counter that comes to mind on my treatment of Superman is Samson, the Jewish Judge, known for his voracious sexual appetite who yet was noted among the great men of faith (Hebrews 11). I wish I could read of his time in prison with his eyes burned out and hear his conversations with God. Surely there in the blackness of his world and in the den of his enemies he would feel the separation from his people and he would acknowledge his sin and again feel the closeness of God. Is that in the Bible? No. I do not see it but speculate based on his standing in Hebrews 11 and of the hearts of other heroes who were broken by God. This society is secularizing daily, elevating the glory of man as Satan elevated Satan. The Israelites differed from the cultures of their times though they were not free from the sin of the world and stumbled into many snares. Those among them who knew God pointed out to us that yes, we are in danger walking on the straight and narrow path and that our own virtues will not free us from the pits along the way, but by crying out in humility and contrition, God will lift us out that we may continue on and guard others from the same gins.</p>
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		<title>Writing</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 20:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;These students today. Some of them say to me, Why do we have to do work here professor? Can&#8217;t we just feel this?&#8221; Dr. Miller said. Two months ago, I sat in a class listening to Dr. Calvin Miller- author, poet, teacher, and pastor. Perhaps his most popular work is The Singer, a poetic allegory [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=64&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;These students today. Some of them say to me, <em>Why do we have to do work here professor? Can&#8217;t we just feel this?&#8221; </em>Dr. Miller said. Two months ago, I sat in a class listening to Dr. Calvin Miller- author, poet, teacher, and pastor. Perhaps his most popular work is The Singer, a poetic allegory of the gospel. He taught about what needs to be done to make writing gleam. His message was captivating, reading us stories accentuating the keys to successful writing.<br />
His words about working in writing have started to sink in. To really make writing stand out, I cannot just sit down and <em>feel</em> it. I need a palette of colors, words, to study and know. I need to learn how they blend together and complement each other. I need to understand the background and environment I am creating/explaining. I need to analyze my pieces and see how to take a key theme or idea in the beginning and weave that through the background fabric of the piece. Is it dark in a scene? obscure? rainy? bright?<br />
How can I take my canvas and so that wherever the reader looks, he may feel that darkness that has made me stumble or be gripped by the hope that has compelled me on?<br />
The thoughts I have to do this are not of abandoning the thoughts, inspirations, etc. that sometimes pull me (and many others) from sleep in the dark, but of harnessing them and working more diligently to understand their environments. By outlining a piece I plan to write, rather than just diving in with no firm plan (*sigh* work) I may be able to draw out and more explicitly refer to certain themes. By finding or more clearly understanding the theme(s) I can then look up words associated to those in a thesaurus and better express themes, moods, etc. Each may have a slightly different hue, and this will help me to better find the right one for the work.<br />
Any other ideas? Hopefully more from me to come.<br />
Learning to write,<br />
Larry</p>
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		<title>More McCheyne</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 13:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over at the Founder&#8217;s Blog, Tom Ascol has a piece on R.M. McCheyne on church discipline. If you haven&#8217;t read about R.M. McCheyne, check out the post above, and some of his works here. I really enjoy his poetry and appreciate his views (as much as I am aquainted with them), as I have quoted [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=63&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over at the <a href="http://www.founders.org">Founder&#8217;s Blog</a>, Tom Ascol has a <a href="http://www.founders.org/blog/2006/06/robert-murray-mcheyne-on-church.html">piece</a> on R.M. McCheyne on church discipline.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t read about R.M. McCheyne, check out the post above, and some of his works <a href="http://web.ukonline.co.uk/d.haslam/m-cheyne.htm">here.</a> I really enjoy his <a href="http://web.ukonline.co.uk/d.haslam/mccheyne/songsofz.htm">poetry</a> and appreciate his views (as much as I am aquainted with them), as I have quoted them <a href="http://5pointers.blogspot.com/2005/12/t-in-tulip.html">before</a>.</p>
<p>My introduction to him came through an Uncle who heard some of his poetry quoted in <a href="http://ahefc.org/">church.</a>  This Uncle was so impressed with the beauty and spiritual forcefulness of the piece, that he returned home that day and memorized it.  (I imagine that is an answer to any pastor&#8217;s prayers!)   As I&#8217;m sure you see where this is going, my Uncle shared the poem with me.  Just one stanza remained in my mind as a seed to later flower.</p>
<p>In college I recalled the poetry and the poet.  A quick google search and I discovered a treasure trove in the McCheyne site.  In reading each poem, I found the meter to be just right and began singing them instead.  As you&#8217;ll notice most of them are McCheyne&#8217;s restating of scripture in rhyme.  They have been to me, over the past few years, songs of praise to God, for which I am grateful.</p>
<p>Besides his works being a catalyst of my praising God, this recent post at Founders sparked a new insight.  Namely what a tremendous encouragement his life is to young men in the church.</p>
<p>This may not seem obvious at first, but allow some details to pave the way for the point:</p>
<p>McCheyne was:</p>
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<li>    born in 1813 and died in 1843.  That means he was taken home at 29.</li>
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<li>    given charge of St. Peter&#8217;s Church Dundee in 1836, at age 23.</li>
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<li>    used by God in his writing and preaching that we are talking about him today.</li>
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<p>McCheyne&#8217;s life being mentioned at Founders encourages and reminds me that God will use young and old alike in His time and in His way.</p>
<p>May we see in this brief life of McCheyne&#8217;s an example of one who followed the call of his God.  We are not left alone with this example but are encouraged, as perhaps he was, with the words of <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Timothy%204:12-13;&amp;version=47;">Paul to Timothy:</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity. Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to exhortation, to teaching.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[from here. ___________________ Father, I pray for my brothers who lead the SBC. Teach them that the flesh can&#8217;t kill the flesh. May they mortify sin by Your Spirit instead. May they walk in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code. May they believe that preaching [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=62&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from <a href="http://isaiah543.blogspot.com/2006/06/prayer-for-sbc.html">here.</a><br />
___________________</p>
<p>Father,</p>
<p>I pray for my brothers who lead the SBC.<br />
Teach them that the flesh can&#8217;t kill the flesh.<br />
May they mortify sin by Your Spirit instead.<br />
May they walk in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code.<br />
May they believe that preaching grace promotes holiness.<br />
Forgive them their unbelief.<br />
Put Fear in their hearts to convict them of binding the consciences of your children with extrabiblical resolutions.<br />
Show them the Hellward tendency of their good intentions.<br />
Raise up leaders who are men of both grace and truth.</p>
<p>In the name of Jesus who will surely build His church and wash her with the Word,</p>
<p>Amen.</p>
<p>_______________</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t know what this is in reference to, please read <a href="http://isaiah543.blogspot.com/2006/06/shame.html">this.</a></p>
<p>Update: you can read more on this <a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2006/06/sbc-resolution-on-alcohol.html">here</a> from Justin Taylor.</p>
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		<title>On Fairness&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In case you are wondering if the two send-offs (red cards) in the US-Italy match of last week were appropriate, check out an appropriate booking from the Germany-Ecuador match. Ecuador&#8217;s Valencia (not the Italian team) had a late tackle on a German midfielder, it&#8217;s during the 4th minute here. I haven&#8217;t been able to find [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=61&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you are wondering if the two send-offs (<span style="color:rgb(204, 0, 0);">red</span> cards) in the US-Italy match of last week were appropriate,  check out an appropriate booking from the Germany-Ecuador match.  Ecuador&#8217;s Valencia (not the Italian team) had a late tackle on a German midfielder, it&#8217;s during the 4th minute <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPgZu-gTP_o">here.</a></p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t been able to find any online clips of the US reds, but I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll see it again on ESPN.</p>
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		<title>Mormon Investing?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In order to instill confidence in financial advisors and undying trust in our financiers, they have moved to a new model of customer interaction. Gone are the days of the local banker, the one who lived round the bend and was always in his pinstripe suit. Well, I&#8217;ve never been an adult in such a [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=60&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>In order to instill confidence in financial advisors and undying trust in our financiers, they have moved to a new model of customer interaction.<br />
Gone are the days of the local banker, the one who lived round the bend and was always in his pinstripe suit.</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;ve never been an adult in such a time, I only see it in period film.  I noticed a particular slant in a letter recieved from a customer service rep at a financial group I formerly patronized.  (Although, there may be some patronizing to follow.)</p>
<p>The slant will be obvious in the quotes to follow, but notice how the great distance between us (I&#8217;ve never seen or spoken with this individual, and they live 1000 miles away) is supposed to be bridged by the form letter with an un-healthy dose of theroputic self-empowerment philosophy.  Another thing before you read the quotes, did he dictate this with his head in a hat, while fondling some &#8220;seeing stones?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I close with this thought:  Broad is the way and wide is the gate for all those who choose the proper path to financial freedom.  Be not swayed by the quick and easy &#8211; the way is strewn with rocks, ruts, and dead ends.  Discipline, desire, and determination are the keys to open the gate.  I look forward to being of good and faithful service to you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Untill I typed this out for myself, I didn&#8217;t realize how abominable it really is.  Perhaps this guy is a distant descendant of Joseph Smith or something&#8230;it sure sounds <span style="font-style:italic;">scripturesque</span><span style="font-weight:bold;">.</span></p>
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<p>Well, if you want even more gufaws, (or is it tears?) here are some excerpts from the enclosure:</p>
<p>&#8220;My Life&#8217;s Mission&#8221;</p>
<p>To empower others to find a greater fulfillment of their own goals and dreams; enable others to care for their families as I care for my own;<br />
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To teach others that which I believe to be right in both the personal and professional stream, yet never presume that my way is the only way;<br />
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To provide good and faithful service to you with dedicated effort to satisfy your needs.  Not only now, but service after you being your relationship with me.  I promise to answer your questions honestly and promptly.  I will respond to your concerns as quickly as possible.&#8221;</p>
<p>The whole thing stinks as some modern manifesto.  I think it should motivate me to write out some goals of my own.</p>
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		<title>The Affections (iv)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please forgive me for the length of the following excerpt. And though it is long, I commend this brother&#8217;s message to you and boldness with God&#8217;s Word. In the Spirit of God&#8217;s Word in Hebrews 11, though he is dead, he still lives. May this serve as an admonishment to follow Christ with love, with [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=59&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please forgive me for the length of the following excerpt. And though it is long, I commend this brother&#8217;s message to you and boldness with God&#8217;s Word. In the Spirit of God&#8217;s Word in Hebrews 11, though he is dead, he still lives. May this serve as an admonishment to follow Christ with love, with passion, with zeal&#8230;</p>
<div align="center"><u>The Religious Affections, Part 3, Section 12</u></div>
<p>Christians in their effectual calling, are not called to idleness, but to labour in God’s vineyard, and spend their day in doing a great and laborious service. All true Christians comply with this call, (as is implied in its being an effectual call,) and do the work of Christians; which is every where in the New Testament compared to those exercises, wherein men are wont to exert their strength with the greatest earnestness, as running, wrestling, fighting. All true Christians are good and faithful soldiers of Jesus Christ, and fight the good fight of faith: for none but those who do so, ever lay hold on eternal life. Those who fight at those who beat the air, never win the crown of victory. They that run in a race, run all; but one wins the prize: and they that are slack and negligent in their course, do not so run, as that they may obtain. The kingdom of heaven is not to be taken but by violence. Without earnestness there is no getting along in that narrow way that leads to life; and so no arriving at that state of glorious life and happiness to which it leads. Without earnest labour, there is no ascending the steep and high hill of Zion; and so no arriving at the heavenly city on the top of it. Without a constant laboriousness, there is no stemming the swift stream in which we swim, so as ever to come to that fountain of water of life, that is at the head of it. There is need that we should watch and pray always, in order to our escaping those dreadful things that are coming on the ungodly, and our being counted worthy to stand before the Son of man. There is need of our putting on the whole armour of God, and doing all to stand, in order to our avoiding a total overthrow, and being utterly destroyed by the fiery darts of the devil. There is need that we should forget the things that are behind, and be reaching forth to the things that are before, and pressing towards the mark, for the prize of the high calling of God, in Christ Jesus our Lord, in order to our obtaining that prize. Slothful-ness in the service of God, in his professed servants, is as damning as open rebellion: for the slothful servant is a wicked servant, and shall be cast into outer darkness, among God’s open enemies. Matt. 25:26, 30. They that are slothful, are not followers of them, who through faith and patience inherit the promises; Heb. 6:11, 12. “And we desire that every one of you do show the same diligence, to the full assurance of hope unto the end: that ye be not slothful, but followers of them, who through faith and patience inherit the promises.” And all they who follow that cloud of witnesses who are gone before to heaven, do lay aside every weight, and the sin that easily besets them, and run with patience the race that is set before them, Heb. 12:1. That true faith by which persons rely on the righteousness of Christ and the work he hath done for them, and truly feed and live upon him, is evermore accompanied with a spirit of earnestness in the christian work and course. Which was typified of old, by the manner of the children of Israel’s feeding on the paschal lamb; Exod. 12:11. “And thus shall ye eat it, with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand: and ye shall eat it in haste; it is the Lord’s passover.”</p>
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		<title>Inconvinience, Common Grace, and Gas</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 10:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A light rain fell as I pulled up to the pump&#8230;&#8221;now which one is the cheapest? Ah, the lowest octane rating&#8230;$2.89! What!? Nearly three dollars and that for the watery stuff!&#8221; I began that way, thinking of how inconvinient the price of gas was, and probably like most people pondering the impact to my monthly [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=58&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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A light rain fell as I pulled up to the pump&#8230;&#8221;now which one is the cheapest? Ah, the lowest octane rating&#8230;$2.89! What!? Nearly three dollars and that for the watery stuff!&#8221;</p>
<p>I began that way, thinking of how inconvinient the price of gas was, and probably like most people pondering the impact to my monthly budget and routine. But another thought crept in, &#8220;there is gas, and I can afford it.&#8221; I began to think of how life would be different without a station on every corner, without the universally accepted credit card swipe, without a functioning car, etc etc. I thought for a moment how I felt troubled by this most menial of inconvinience as &#8220;expensive gas.&#8221; What in the world am I thinking?! Most of the world&#8217;s population does not even have enough food to avoid starving.</p>
<p>Quickly I realize how blessed we are in America, and that while we are all sinners worthy of immediate entry into Hell forever, God provides kindnesses that are to lead us to repentance. The little episode opened my eyes for a second onto the vista of God&#8217;s common grace by which we are not consumed. God does all this for the rebels &#8211; the enemies of his purpose, the haters of his glory!</p>
<p>Not only are the great temporal blessings illustrative of his mercy on every human being, he also saves people from every people group on earth, as a new nation unto himself. If I am startled by his common love on all people, how much greater is his covenant love towards his elect! I really have no grid for comprehending this majesty. If the physical world seems all encompassing and supreme, and mercy in the forms of antibiotics, functioning electronics and mechanical systems, and governmental restraining of anarchy all seem like ultimate goodness to man&#8217;s eye, how insuperably magnificent is the redeeming love of Christ!</p>
<p>Oh for the curtain to be pulled back that my heart can esteem that which is worthy and not wheedle with the worthless!</p>
<p>Thank God for expensive gallons of gas.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-<span class="sup">Psalm 103:11</span>For as high as the heavens are above the earth,<br />
 so great is his steadfast love toward those who fear him;</p>
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		<title>*Sigh* The Affections (iii)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I was being discipled, my teacher told me a sad story of when he was in the college ministry. In his early days as a Christian, a man said, “twenty years from now, half of the people in this room will not be seeking God.” He thought no way, but as time went on, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=57&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div align="left">As I was being discipled, my teacher told me a sad story of when he was in the college ministry. In his early days as a Christian, a man said, “twenty years from now, half of the people in this room will not be seeking God.” He thought <em>no way</em>, but as time went on, he saw people cool off first hand. I was sobered up quickly.<br />
“That’s scary,” I told him.<br />
“That is scary.” He paused, “Run a little bit scared.”<br />
“How do you know you’ll be having your quiet time in twenty years?” he asked.“Do it now?” I timidly returned.<br />
“Have it today! If you have it today, you’ll have it tomorrow.”<br />
One of the most unsettling things in the Christian walk is the falling away of trusted friends. We live our lives with them; we share our time with them; we open up our hearts to them. Then, slowly with some, instantly with others, we see signs of their disconnect with God. Some past grievance is not forgiven or a sin is justified; a root of bitterness springs up. They harden their hearts and justify more sin. Their tenderness and sensitivity dries up; i<em>t is only hurting me,</em> they protest. They lash out and break contact, make false accusations, or grow cynical. In the end, only God knows the condition of their hearts and when or if they will ever return.<br />
Here, in a sobering passage, Jonathan Edwards discloses how Satan goes about to make counterfeits of the most cherished commodities in the world- Christian love and humility. By showing that few take time to imitate that which is fake, but many to imitate that which is rare- gold, silver, diamonds, etc., he points out that there are indeed many fakes out there. A cubic zirconia may look like a diamond, but its treatment of the light within it shows it false. And with some, they cannot be seen as fake until they are held up to the Light over time, and the refraction of their hearts under that light exposes what is true.</div>
<div align="center">Part II Section VI</div>
<div align="center"><em>It is no evidence that religious affections are saving, or that they are otherwise, that there is an appearance of love in them</em></div>
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<div align="left">“…It may be observed, that the more excellent any thing is, the more will be the counterfeits of it. Thus there are many more counterfeits of silver and gold, than of iron and copper: there are many false diamonds and rubies, but who goes about to counterfeit common stones? Though the more excellent things are, the more difficult it is to make any thing like them, in their essential nature and internal virtue; yet the more manifold will the counterfeits be, and the more will art and subtlety be exercised and displayed, in an exact imitation of the outward appearance. Thus there is the greatest danger of being cheated in buying medicines that are most excellent and sovereign, though it be most difficult to imitate them, with any thing of the like value and virtue, and their counterfeits are good for nothing when we have them. So it is with Christian virtues and graces; the subtlety of Satan, and men’s deceitful hearts, are wont chiefly to be exercised in counterfeiting those that are in highest repute. So there are perhaps no graces that have more counterfeits than love and humility these being virtues wherein the beauty of a true Christian especially appears&#8230;”</div>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 06:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was gripped most by the section in the Affections &#8220;Gracious affections soften the heart, and are attended with a christian tenderness of spirit.&#8221; The comparison between a broken heart and the child-likeness of believers is wonderfully done. Here are some excerpts for your daily reading / meditations: &#8220;Gracious affections are of a quite contrary [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=56&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was gripped most by the section in the <em>Affections </em>&#8220;Gracious affections soften the heart, and are attended with a christian tenderness of spirit.&#8221; The comparison between a broken heart and the child-likeness of believers is wonderfully done. Here are some excerpts for your daily reading / meditations:</p>
<p>&#8220;Gracious affections are of a quite contrary tendency [than false affections]; they turn a heart of stone more and more into a heart of flesh. Holy love and hope are principles vastly more efficacious upon the heart, to make it tender, and to fill it with a dread of sin, or whatever might displease and offend God; and to engage it to watchfulness, and care, and strictness, than a slavish fear of hell. Gracious affections, as was observed before, flow out of a contrite heart, or (as the word signifies) a bruised heart, bruised and broken with godly sorrow; which makes the heart tender, as bruised flesh is tender, and easily hurt. Godly sorrow has much greater influence to make the heart tender, than mere legal sorrow from selfish principles.<br />
&#8220;The tenderness of the heart of a true Christian, is elegantly signified by our Saviour, in his comparing such a one to a little child&#8230; A little child has his heart easily moved, wrought upon, and bowed: so is a Christian in spiritual things. A little child is apt to be affected with sympathy, to weep with them that weep, and cannot well bear to see others in distress: so it is with a Christian; John 11:35, Romans 12:15, I Corinthians 12:26. A little child is easily won by kindness: so is a Christian. A little child is easily affected with grief at temporal evils, or any thing that threatens its hurt: so is a Christian apt to be alarmed at the appearance of moral evil, and any thing that threatens the hurt of the soul. A little child when it meets enemies, or fierce beasts, is not apt to trust its own strength, but flies to its parents: for refuge so a saint is not self-confident in engaging spiritual enemies, but flies to Christ. A little child is apt to be suspicious of evil in places of danger, afraid in the dark, afraid when left solitary, or far from home: so is a saint apt to be sensible of his spiritual dangers, jealous of himself, full of fear when he cannot see his way plain before him, afraid to be left alone, and to be at a distance from God&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since last September I have been slogging my way through Jonathan Edwards&#8217; The Religious Affections. I expected Edwards to be deep and somewhat dense when Jerry Bridges told me last summer that Edwards was tough for him to understand! I am pressing on and hoping to finish sometime soon. If you are not aware of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=55&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since last September I have been slogging my way through Jonathan Edwards&#8217; <em>The Religious Affections. </em>I expected Edwards to be deep and somewhat dense when Jerry Bridges told me last summer that Edwards was tough for him to understand! I am pressing on and hoping to finish sometime soon.<br />
If you are not aware of who Edwards is, he was a pastor when the Great Awakening was sweeping across America. He has been called the Mount Everest of theologians, with Calvin and Luther being the foothills. He has been argued as the best philospher in American history.<br />
His most famous, though just a fraction of his work, is enclosed in a sermon entitled Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God. It&#8217;s a shame that this is all most people know of Edwards since the delivery of the sermon and the response to the sermon is rarely, if ever, put into context. The message takes up about 4 pages out of more than 1700 in Edwards&#8217; works (and that is not even his complete works), and Edwards&#8217; talk of heaven was much bigger and more emphasized than his Hell. Critics say Edwards was not loving because he gave a sermon on Hell. However, when Edwards preached this message to a congregation that had not changed in light of the revival of the Great Awakening, people cried out, &#8220;What must I do to be saved?&#8221; He did not tell them what they wanted to hear; he told them what they needed to hear.<br />
Now that Edwards has been at least slightly vindicated, let&#8217;s get back to <em>The Religious Affections. </em>The <em>Affections</em> was written to help instruct pastors, etc. what to look for in a true convert when the Great Awakening was spreading through the nation. It has a short introduction of terms, and is then broken down into three sections. The first section describes the affections, the emotions, in Christianity and their importance to it. The second section identifies certain traits or emotions and how they may, but are not necessarily, evidences of true Christianity. The final section is the longest, and there Edwards lays out what are the affetions that are truly Christian, for example: Affections from the Holy Spirit soften rather than harden the heart; they promote the spirit of love, meekness, forgiveness, quietness, mercy as appeared in Christ; and they are attended with humiliation. Edwards warns against trusting visions and dreams to give assurance of salvation or favor with God, but he affirms the true Christian affections- grief over sin, humility (becoming less while God becomes greater), weeping with those who weep, rejoicing in the truth, joy, etc.<br />
I commend this book, with its difficulties, to my brothers and sisters. Don&#8217;t expect it to be easy, but do expect it to be deep, thoughtful, and weighty.<br />
More details to come from within the book soon&#8230;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charles Spurgeon said a century ago, &#8220;Everywhere is apathy. Nobody cares whether that which is preached is true or false. A sermon is a sermon whatever the subject; only, the shorter it is the better.&#8221; That is the theme in a two-dvd set by John MacArthur entitled Does the Truth Matter Anymore? I am very [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=54&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles Spurgeon said a century ago, &#8220;Everywhere is apathy. Nobody cares whether that which is preached is true or false. A sermon is a sermon whatever the subject; only, the shorter it is the better.&#8221; That is the theme in a two-dvd set by John MacArthur entitled <em>Does the Truth Matter Anymore? </em>I am very grateful to the friend that loaned it to me. I also have been challenged by MacArthur&#8217;s emphasis on doctrine and his stressing that the Word of God be preached as it is. The results are in God&#8217;s hands. In the dvds, MacArthur parallels the influence of modernism in the church in Spurgeon&#8217;s day to the emphasis today on pragmatism.<br />
Spurgeon saw the slippery slope of modernism eroding away the integrity of the church from the inside out. But what is modernism? Simply put, modernism was the ideal at the end of the 19th century that the church not stress doctrine so much, but just try to love each other more. It sounds great. Yet it created a breeding ground where its leaven went into the church and worked its way through so that tenets central to the faith like the Sovereignty of God, the virgin birth of Christ, original sin, etc. came under fire. Whole denominations were wiped out by the modernist epidemic. Much of Europe stands as spiritual wasteland because of modernism and many churches have become museums- crypts where spiritual corpses handle the Word of the Living God. In the dearth of conviction of sin and the teaching and living out of objective truth, morality has spiraled downwards in those places as well.<br />
In modern times, MacArthur warns us about the rising tide of pragmatism in the church. And what is pragmatism? Pragmatism is being user-friendly. It means putting more emphasis on marketing than faithfully preaching the Word of God. It means catering to the carnal interests of church members; if the people aren&#8217;t coming to church, the church should just have more activities, open a cappuccino bar, and not try to worry about doctrine, but keep the messages short so people can get out and have a nice Sunday lunch.<br />
The prevelance of pragmatic thought has shaped how we view the success of a mission or a church. Now, the success of a mission is deemed effective based on the number of people who simply &#8220;make a decision for Christ.&#8221; The Puritans, by contrast, simply considered their mission successful if they were faithful to the Word of God.<br />
I am sad. It seems pragmatism and modernism have so pervaded much of the church that many are afraid to call heretical teaching&#8217;s into question. &#8220;Well, you may not like his views&#8230; But to call him a heretic?&#8221; I talk to brothers and sisters who like to read popular <em>&#8220;Christian&#8221;</em> books, with little depth. One conceded, &#8220;yeah, a lot of the stuff that guy says is way out there, but I like some of his thoughts&#8221;. &#8220;Well even if <em>this</em> and <em>that</em> are wrong, God can still use it.&#8221; God spoke through an ass to Balaam, so obviously he can use teachings stricken with spiritual cyanide, but does that give us an excuse to ignore doctrine and embrace every movement that comes along?<br />
I close with some of the words that have especially convicted me on how to approach my time and selection of what I read, &#8220;Before picking up a book, ask yourself: Would Christ approve of this book? Will it increase my love for the Word of God, help me to conquer sin, offer abiding wisdom, and help me to prepare for the life to come? Or could I better spend time reading another book?&#8221; -Joel R. Beeke<br />
Bury yourself in the wisdom and love of God of the saints: Augustine, Cavlin, Luther, Spurgeon, Amy Carmichael, C.S. Lewis, John Bunyan, John MacArthur, John Owen, Elisabeth Elliot, and many others.</p>
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		<title>The not-so-early bird</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 19:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went for a run yesterday and on my way back, around 5 pm, I saw a dove under some shrubs with a worm in its mouth. That&#8217;s interesting I thought. A little later I went for a walk and saw a robin with a worm hanging from its beak after 8 pm. The second [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=53&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went for a run yesterday and on my way back, around 5 pm, I saw a dove under some shrubs with a worm in its mouth. <em>That&#8217;s interesting</em> I thought. A little later I went for a walk and saw a robin with a worm hanging from its beak after 8 pm. The second bird made me think about this again. I guess it disproves that old adage, &#8220;The early bird gets the worm.&#8221;<br />
What conclusion could we draw from this? Well my first thought, being the overly analytical, overly spiritual man I have been called, has been to point to one of Christ&#8217;s parables. Jesus, in explaining the reward of heaven, showed that the workers who toiled in the field all day (the birds getting up early) would receive the same reward from their Master as those workers who had just started tending the field before the day ended (the birds getting their worm at the close of the day). The essential thing is that they enter Christ&#8217;s labor field. So, whether you have been a Christian 2 weeks, 2 months, or 2 years, your reward is enterity with Christ in heaven, and the &#8220;least in heaven&#8221; is greater than the greastest man born of a woman (Luke 7:28). Though this passage sparks a tangent and could well be material for another or several more blogs- Christ&#8217;s words that the <em>least</em> in heaven implies that there are degrees among those in heaven. This is extremely subordinate to following Christ, but what causes one to be greater or lesser in heaven?<br />
The limiations to these parallels are obvious- the birds getting up early do not have to toil all day once they find their food and also, the birds getting up early receive their reward before the other birds even start to labor, while in the parable the first workers got paid last. However, I was suprised to see the late bird getting the worm and wanted to share my excitement.</p>
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		<title>This need not be difficult&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/05/21/this-need-not-be-difficult/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 19:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finding reformed baptist churchs similar to my church is a great joy. When visiting, it really turns that business trip weekend into an opportunity to learn from brothers and sisters you&#8217;ve never met before, and may not meet again til Glory. Today I went to this church here in Florida. A great little congregation of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=52&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finding reformed baptist churchs similar to my church is a great joy.  When visiting, it really turns that business trip weekend into an opportunity to learn from brothers and sisters you&#8217;ve never met before, and may not meet again til Glory.</p>
<p>Today I went to this <a href="http://www.gcchurch.net/">church</a> here in Florida.  A great little congregation of warm hearted folks, who love the Lord.  I didn&#8217;t make it to the main service (as a road closure, getting lost, running out of toll money, driving through a part of Orlando I&#8217;d call <span style="font-style:italic;">Vanity Fair</span>, and other providences prevented me), however I did get to share in the Bible study/sermon processing session following. </p>
<p>While there are many stories here to share (such as meeting a couple on staff w/ Wycliffe and sharing lunch with them, I&#8217;ll fill you and Stacey in Eegana), there is one lesson among many worth sharing now.</p>
<p>Simply, what do you talk about with someone you&#8217;ve never met before, and may never see again when you just have 15 minutes?  Here&#8217;s what the answer shouldn&#8217;t be, I think: Work, hobbys, people.</p>
<p>I missed a tremendous opportunity to have deeper fellowship with some of these brothers by failing to ask just some simple questions, <span style="font-style:italic;">How did Christ get ahold of your life?  How do you understand God&#8217;s providence in leading you to himself?</span></p>
<p>It is that simple, the depth of our fellowship could have gone far beyond the &#8220;what do you do?&#8221; &#8220;what do you don&#8217;t?&#8221;, yada yada yada. </p>
<p>I need not keep this lesson for roadtrips either!  What if I apply this in my own church?  I get an opportunity to chat with a fellow, what is more pertinent than Chirst?!  <span style="font-style:italic;">Tell me about Christ&#8217;s work in your life brother!</span> </p>
<p>Yes, I talked theology and subculture kind of stuff, which was encouraging, and the small group time was sweet as we opened the Word together and processed the sermon (that I had missed, but pieced together from the anecdotes), but by grace, let&#8217;s press for depth to the exalting of Christ in his work.</p>
<p>Perhaps I am over-reacting and expecting too much from time with others, but in the least I (and perhaps others) could be more discerning and prayerful before entering into fellowship.</p>
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		<title>What Women Want</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 May 2006 13:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enough talk about predestination, it is time to bring a noncontroversial topic to the forum: my thoughts on modesty. The subject was spurred on by some thoughts I had yesterday in reading through a friend’s humble endeavor to explain the whys and hows of modesty. First of all, I would like to say I do [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=51&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enough talk about predestination, it is time to bring a noncontroversial topic to the forum: my thoughts on modesty. The subject was spurred on by some thoughts I had yesterday in reading through a friend’s humble endeavor to explain the whys and hows of modesty.<br />
First of all, I would like to say I do not include many of my sisters in Christ in the category of being immodest. Not only are their clothes, actions, and approaches honoring to God, but their inward nature of a quiet heart, a gentle spirit, and genuine compassion makes their outward beauty even more extrinsic. The lack of conceit among them is truly elegant. I have been struck dumb on more than one occasion over the past several years as I have seen the sincerity in faith of my sisters who love God.<br />
Now onto business. Instead of delving into the, “what is too tight?” or “how much skin is too much?” I would like to ask some questions that come to my mind and lead the conversation back to God. The questions here are applicable to a broad spectrum of sisters in Christ and a gauge for men to see if they would be worthy of the affections of such a woman.<br />
By the clothes a woman wears, the questions arise: What kind of attention does she draw to herself? Does she really have the freedom to wear whatever she wants, or does she indict herself with the sin of conceit?<br />
In the long-term, it is good for a woman to ask what quality of men look at her and are bold enough to approach her. Will a man who looks at her first for her external beauty be a man who wrestles with God for her welfare, day and night on his knees? Will he be a man who is not afraid to cry in front of her and to try as best he can to understand and work side by side with her, leading her? Will she attract a man who will cradle her head against his shoulder as she cries? Will he be a man who will raise up their children in love, teach them, rebuke them, discipline them, read to them, play with them and stay up at night to wait for them when they go astray? Will he be a man who will kneel beside her and serve her when she is sick, when her feet are swollen, when her hair is disheveled and she is so congested that she never imagines herself pretty then? Will he be one to know her inner radiance? Will he be a man who will still be enraptured by her in thirty or forty years when her loins have been girded up with gristle like a pork chop, when her knees have gone bad, when she has gained extra weight, and will he still have eyes only for her??<br />
The kind of bait a woman throws into the water is specific to the fish she will attract. If she throws out a line laden with bare shoulders, flirtatious glances, and provocative gestures, the fish will probably be a sucker and suck. The fish (metaphorically speaking) may be one who cares first about his ego, about what video games he is playing, about getting home in time to watch tv shows or sports- ie. ‘shut up honey, don’t talk, I am busy,’ a man who is amused by toilet humor and disgusting jokes (yes even some Christian, or “Christian” men), pessimism and destructive criticism. It may be a man who cannot deal with his rejections and hardships, but turns to alcohol to numb his pain and dull his mind, staying that dreaded task of meditating, thinking, and engaging the conflicts and emotional disconnects strewn throughout his life.<br />
But if the line is laden with the inward clothing of compassion and kindness, a heart of love, this woman will likely find a man, the like of which there are few in this world.<br />
Finally, brothers and sisters, do you really believe God has the best for you and will give that to you as you focus first on Him?? Do you believe that the same God who said, &#8220;Ask and it will be given, seek and you will find,&#8221; will not be able to give you much more if you seek first after God and sincerely aim to please God? Let us seek to follow that God!</p>
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		<title>The Thread of Life</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 16:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I breathed deeply as I looked ahead. I stared out a glass pane in front of me, transfixed by our speed of ascent; the ships in port grew smaller and smaller. The ground began to shake beneath my feet as we rose. Inches of metal beneath my feet separated me from death. As I went [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=50&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I breathed deeply as I looked ahead. I stared out a glass pane in front of me, transfixed by our speed of ascent; the ships in port grew smaller and smaller. The ground began to shake beneath my feet as we rose. Inches of metal beneath my feet separated me from death.<br />
As I went to the top of the Space Needle in Seattle, I found myself reliving my hatred of suspended heights. How could the workers in it and the rest be so oblivious to how the observation deck swayed at the top? Of course it was constructed with safety in mind and sound engineering principles, but being 500 feet from land still does not allow the amount I am convinced in my mind to transcend into my stomach. But then I remembered that just the day before I sat inches from the window of the airplane at a height of 40,000 feet and temperature of -80 F! A break in that glass and a giant pressure vacuum ensues, temperature plummet in the cabin, Oxygen becomes scarce, and a life threatening situation is imminent. Yet this caused me the least concen.<br />
The fact is this: every single day we live, we are given the breath of God. Greek mythologies devised their own philosophy to comprehend this phenomenon. They created three muses: one drew out the cord of life, the second measured it, and the third cut it. Christ asked his followers, &#8220;And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life?&#8221; (Matt 6:27). We are to live to God as best we can. Somewhere above, the days of our lives are measured out. We may have the security of the ground beneath our feet or be only inches from death, but neither the danger of the one nor the safety of the other is any final guarantee; God will take us when he takes us. By knowing God, we may know our fraility, but by knowing that and knowing God, we may rest content more than the workers on the top of the towers who trust in man&#8217;s strength, having an eternal assurance.</p>
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		<title>Watch Out</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 May 2006 16:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;So could you not watch with me one hour? Watch and pray that you may not enter into temptation&#8230;&#8221; (Matt 26:40-41). &#8220;Be sober minded&#8217; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour&#8221; (I Peter 5:8). I find myself making an excuse for spiritual apathy and general apathy. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=49&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div align="center"><em>&#8220;So could you not watch with me one hour? Watch and pray that you may not enter into temptation&#8230;&#8221;</em> (Matt 26:40-41).</div>
<div align="center"><em>&#8220;Be sober minded&#8217; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour&#8221;</em> (I Peter 5:8).</div>
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<div align="left">I find myself making an excuse for spiritual apathy and general apathy. <em>What does it matter? </em>I ask myself, <em>I can just do that later. Oh, that is just a little thing. Oh, I know I should fix that now, but I am so tired. </em><em>Get up early and spend time with God- I will just take my rest and do that later. </em></div>
<div align="left">Yet Christ rebukes his disciples and tells them he desires their fellowship in the hour of need, as seen in Matt 26:40-41. Their fellowship with God is not desired so that they give God something, but that by being in God&#8217;s presence, they are guarded from the fierce lion who waits to tear them apart. Peter was warned of the temptation to come &#8220;Simon, Simon, behold, Satan demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned again, strengthen your brothers&#8221; (Luke 22:31-32); Peter was warned again to stay awake (Matt 26:40,45); and then when the temptation came, Peter gave in to the temptation to deny Christ (Matt 26:75).</div>
<div align="left">Yet Christ&#8217;s prayer gave Peter the strength to persevere. Then Peter, humbled as one who had fallen before (I Peter 5:6-7) and who knew the bitterness of coming into the hour of temptation unprepared, admonishes his brothers to stand in Christ as well and to stay awake.</div>
<div align="left">What is the takeaway lesson? For me it is several: 1) Be killing sin now as it comes into my mind and not later; 2) When I awake in the middle of the night disturbed by dreams or ungodly thoughts, come before God right away and bring his Word to mind; 3) Spend time with God when it seems hard or when I find myself desiring sleep badly; and 4) Don&#8217;t buy into the lie that if I do such things, it shows I am not just trusting in God or that it really doesn&#8217;t matter if I don&#8217;t pray.</div>
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		<title>A Meditation from the Lord&#8217;s Table</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 23:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the giving of the Law at Mt. Sinai, Moses sprinkled blood on the tablets of the Law and the people, saying &#8220;This is the blood of the Covenant.&#8221; In the first covenant, the blood is sprinkled on the people by Moses, and is also used in the temple service. Blood is used to sprinkle [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=48&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the giving of the Law at Mt. Sinai, Moses sprinkled blood on the tablets of the Law and the people, saying &#8220;This is the blood of the Covenant.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the first covenant, the blood is sprinkled on the people by Moses, and is also used in the temple service.  Blood is used to sprinkle the instruments used in the temple, as well as the altar of offering, and the temple grounds &#8211; just about everything you can think of gets sprinkled someplace in the O.T.  All of the blood is sprinkled <span style="font-style:italic;">over</span> something, just as the law is external, and <span style="font-style:italic;">over</span> the people.</p>
<p>Now Christ, at the institution of the New Covenant says:<br />
“This cup is the new covenant in my blood.”</p>
<p>Then bids us to drink.  Notice how we are <span style="font-style:italic;">taking in</span> the blood of the covenant.  It is inside us now.</p>
<p>Where the old way was &#8220;without&#8221;, the new way is within.  We have the fulfillment of the external code living in us, Christ, by His Spirit, dwelling in us.  The Law is now written on our hearts, within.  We are given a new heart, we have been changed from the inside out</p>
<p>So Christ says to you today, take and drink, that he may be within you, that you may no longer operate on your own strength, but that he may be your strength.</p>
<p>Praise God for the mercy of His Table.</p>
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		<title>Arctic Dawn</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 19:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After seeing the movie Red Dawn- I would not recommend this movie to anyone- I was amazed at two things: 1) that such a ridiculous script could ever be made into a motion picture and 2) that Charlie Sheen and Partrick Swayzee actually had careers after this movie. Convinced that there might not be a [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=47&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After seeing the movie Red Dawn- I would not recommend this movie to anyone- I was amazed at two things: 1) that such a ridiculous script could ever be made into a motion picture and 2) that Charlie Sheen and Partrick Swayzee actually had careers after this movie. Convinced that there might not be a worse movie, I started to write a script that may be worse. Instead of the U.S. being invaded by Spanish speaking Russians and our crack U.S. military units being rendered impotent while six high school kids successfully mount a resistance movement, I chose a different premise. I figured to use the next major crisis, global warming, as a launching pad. The beauty is that in this movie, the earth warms up, but at the same time everything is becoming colder, ice flows from the North and South Pole break off, eskimos freeze to death, and sea lions, polar bears, and penguins terrorize the mainland. Then high school kids somehow save the day. Doesn&#8217;t make sense?? Good!<br />
Here is the intro:<br />
In the near future, the year 2007, the world is a very different place. Industrial gases and uncontrolled environmental regulations have caused global warming to accelerate at an unprecedented rate. In a global emergency, the UN Security Counsel in conjunction with NATO and a democratic controlled United States’ government limit worldwide driving to Mondays. With the plummet in gas usage, OPEC dissolves and the Middle East descends into chaos. Camels run wild. Three more major hurricanes devastate the US, hammering the Florida Keys; Corpus Christi, Texas; and pulverizing Chicago. Global warming triggers The Big One and California is torn away from the rest of the continent, leaving Las Vegas as costal land.<br />
This is just the beginning; this is the start of a struggle for survival; THIS is Arctic Dawn.</p>
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		<title>The Best of Times, The Worst of Times</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[3 Events, 2 Births, 1 Death, on your birthday &#8211; From &#8220;As a Blog returns to it&#8217;s Vomit&#8220; -July 30th- Events: 1419 &#8211; First Defenestration of Prague. Wow. Hussites, defenstration, public unrest, all on my birthday&#8230;wow. (german etymology &#8211; fenster? hmm?) 1953 &#8211; Rikidōzan holds a ceremony announcing the establishment of the Japan Pro Wrestling [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=46&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 Events, 2 Births, 1 Death, on your birthday &#8211; From <a href="http://isaiah543.blogspot.com/2006/04/by-request-3-events-two-births-and-one.html">&#8220;As a Blog returns to it&#8217;s Vomit</a><a href="http://isaiah543.blogspot.com/2006/04/by-request-3-events-two-births-and-one.html">&#8220;</a></p>
<p>-July 30th-</p>
<p>Events:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1419" title="1419">1419</a> &#8211; First <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defenestrations_of_Prague" title="Defenestrations of Prague">Defenestration of Prague</a>.<br />
Wow.  Hussites, defenstration, public unrest, all on my birthday&#8230;wow.<br />
(german etymology &#8211; fenster? hmm?)</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953" title="1953">1953</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rikidozan" title="Rikidozan">Rikidōzan</a> holds a ceremony announcing the establishment of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Pro_Wrestling_Alliance" title="Japan Pro Wrestling Alliance">Japan Pro Wrestling Alliance</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975" title="1975">1975</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Hoffa" title="Jimmy Hoffa">Jimmy Hoffa</a> disappears from the parking lot of the Machus Red Fox restaurant in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomfield_Hills%2C_Michigan" title="Bloomfield Hills, Michigan">Bloomfield Hills, Michigan</a>, a suburb of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit" title="Detroit">Detroit</a>, at about 2:30 p.m..</p>
<p>Births:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947" title="1947">1947</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger" title="Arnold Schwarzenegger">Arnold Schwarzenegger</a>, Austrian-born actor and Governator of California</p>
<p>You guessed it:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950" title="1950">1950</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Stallone" title="Frank Stallone">Frank Stallone</a>, American singer and actor</p>
<p>Deaths:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1898" title="1898">1898</a> &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Bismarck" title="Otto von Bismarck">Otto von Bismarck</a>, German chancellor (b. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1815" title="1815">1815</a>)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see others play along&#8230;Larry?  Egana? Eric Nielsen?  Any other takers?</p>
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		<title>From the O.C.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2006 07:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last night I was looking for a specific experience recorded in the life of one of the saints of the past. While not finding it here, I did find a real gem of a quote from Oswald Chambers (a.k.a. Ozzy C.) Holiness is not an attainment at all, it is the gift of God, and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=45&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night I was looking for a specific experience recorded in the life of one of the saints of the past.  While not finding it here, I did find a real gem of a quote from Oswald Chambers (a.k.a. Ozzy C.)</p>
<blockquote><p>Holiness is not an attainment at all, it is the gift of God, and the pietistic tendency is the introspection which makes me worship my own earnestness and not take the Lord seriously at all.  It is a pious fraud that suits the natural man immensely.  He [God] makes holy, He sanctifies, He does it all.  All I have to do is come as a spirituals pauper, not ashamed to beg, to let go of my right to myself and act on Romans 12:1-2.  It is never &#8216;Do, do and you&#8217;ll be&#8217; with the lord, but &#8216;Be, be and I will do through you.&#8217;  It is a case of &#8216;hands up&#8217; and letting go, and then entire reliance on Him.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>FREEEEEEDOM!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am currently a part-time student at a local seminary. The school is just getting up and running (recieving operating authority in 2005, etc), so judging by the way seminaries go, it should be conservative untill about 2100 (A.D., not hrs). But that&#8217;s not my point for this post at all. I was in the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=44&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently a part-time student at a local seminary. The school is just getting up and running (recieving operating authority in 2005, etc), so judging by the way seminaries go, it should be conservative untill about 2100 (A.D., not hrs).  But that&#8217;s not my point for this post at all.</p>
<p>I was in the library yesterday gathering more resources for a paper I&#8217;m writing on the Sabbath.  One of the unique blessings of being a student at a younger institution is that the library is stocked in the main, with the essentials.  Yes, the library is constantly growing, but you can&#8217;t get lost in tombs of tomes examining the role of footwear in apocolyptic literature.  That said, I decided to take a look at a few of the Sabbath regulations the physical Israel has been yoked with over time, that&#8217;s right, I cracked open&#8230;The Babylonian Talmud (english translation of course, give me a break, ok, I&#8217;m only part-time.)</p>
<p>Volume 2 was dedicated to Shabbat, so in cavalier fashion I flipped the pages looking for something interesting.  Since I have been focusing on Jesus&#8217; confrontations on the Sabbath with the Pharisees (as the best place to contrast the <span style="font-style:italic;">new</span> teaching on it vs. the legalism of 1st C. Jewry), I was hoping to find something relevant and specific.   So what did I find?  You guessed it, rabbinic tradition on how to wipe your bee-hind on the day of rest.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t go into the rather blunt handling of the subject and all the tedium there expounded.  My point in bringing this up is to praise God.  Pricipally for freedom.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.&#8221; (Gal. 5:1, ESV)</p></blockquote>
<p>Even in the everyday, mundane things we have been set free from our bondage to sin and slavery under the law to walk in newness of life in the Spirit!  I pray that I would grow in my understanding of this.</p>
<p>The law seems to be a comfort to my flesh, do this and you&#8217;ll live, right? But this sentiment sends me reeling&#8211;Mark will never do the law!  Mark will never do <span style="font-style:italic;">part </span>of the law, much less the <span style="font-style:italic;">whole</span> law!  So may I make mention of the fact that quenching the Spirit by seeking justification or sanctification in ones self, under law, is a particularly gnarly sin of self-righteousness!  Praise be to God who delivers us from this body of sin.</p>
<p>So whether seeking justification through the law, or sanctification through the law, it ain&#8217;t there.  My curse is no longer the law and my sin&#8230;my curse is Christ (in a manner of speaking), who became a curse for me, so that I would no longer stand accursed.</p>
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		<title>Fear and Comfort</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading this morning in Acts (of the Holy Spirit), I stumbled upon something I’d never seen before. After Paul is persecuting the church, Jesus confronts him, regenerates him, and then encourages the church through him. Now there are about a thousand things people have said about Paul’s conversion, and this is not an addition on [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=43&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color:rgb(102, 102, 102);">Reading this morning in Acts (of the Holy Spirit), I stumbled upon something I’d never seen before.</span><span style="color:rgb(102, 102, 102);">  </span><span style="color:rgb(102, 102, 102);">After Paul is persecuting the church, Jesus confronts him, regenerates him, and then encourages the church through him.</span><span style="color:rgb(102, 102, 102);">  </span><span style="color:rgb(102, 102, 102);">Now there are about a thousand things people have said about Paul’s conversion, and this is not an addition on the subject.    </span>
<p style="color:rgb(102, 102, 102);" class="MsoNormal">What caught my attention today was this little summary statement from Luke a little farther in the chapter.  Paul is now ministering, he&#8217;s met up with Barnabas, and then Luke says in Acts 9:31:</p>
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<blockquote><p>So the church throughout all Judea and Galilee and Samaria had peace and was being built up. And walking in the fear of the Lord and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit, it multiplied.(ESV)</p></blockquote>
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<p style="color:rgb(102, 102, 102);" class="MsoNormal">Wow!<span>  </span>Wondering about how the church is to operate?<span>  </span>I think Luke gave us a pretty good direction here.<span>  </span><i>Fear of the Lord, and comfort in the Holy Spirit</i>.<span>  </span>As I was thinking about it, what sweet fellowship we share, what glorious doctrine we exult in, what tender mercies are administered in the body when we walk in this way!  The heavy-handed co-opting of one part of the church for another is laid waste here with this beautiful reliance on God.
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<p style="color:rgb(102, 102, 102);" class="MsoNormal">May this be our prayer for Christ’s body!</p>
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		<title>Be careful what you say, be careful what you pray</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone once said to me, &#8220;Don&#8217;t ever ask God for patience, or he will give you something to be patient about!&#8221; I did not like the sound of that, and after some thinking, I replied something like, &#8220;I think that argument comes straight from the Pit. You see, Paul prayed for the Christian church at [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=42&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone once said to me, &#8220;Don&#8217;t ever ask God for patience, or he will give you something to be patient about!&#8221; I did not like the sound of that, and after some thinking, I replied something like, &#8220;I think that argument comes straight from the Pit. You see, Paul prayed for the Christian church at Colossae that they would have, &#8216;PATIENCE and endurance with joy&#8230;&#8217; And if the apostle of the early church prayed for it for those he loved, how much more should we pray for it for ourselves and others. Furthermore, patience is a fruit of the Spirit, and to say not to ask God for it because he might make you exercise it would be like saying, &#8216;Don&#8217;t ask God for joy, or he might give you something to be joyful about,&#8217; or &#8216;Don&#8217;t ask God for peace or he might give you something to be peaceful about.&#8217;&#8221;<br />
And that is where tonight comes in. As I was trying to avert my attention from an indignation- one of the strongest I have had- that would not go away, I mumbled, &#8220;God help me.&#8221; The next thought I had was a prayer I had made. But first, let me provide a little more background on the reason for my anger- I have been dealing with someone who treats those around him like they are animals, blames other people constantly and instantly for any problem, scarcely if ever concedes any error (it is always the fault of some other &#8216;crazy&#8217; person), and is possibly the meanest person I have ever met. All of this is becoming very tiresome to me. Today after receiving a substantial amount more of this than I thought just or right, I fumed inside, but my mouth stayed closed.<br />
Now, let me return to my prayer, &#8220;God help me.&#8221; Scarcely had I closed my mouth before I remembered a recent prayer- that this person might be able to see the love God had for him. I started to see, more and more experientially and to my humiliation, that God took all of that- the anger, fury, false accusations- from me and one hundred times more, and still offered me the free gift of salvation! I could never earn that, and deserved anything but by my conduct. My temper subsided and I started to consider this situation with eternity in view. This person seems to have the authority now, but really, he has no authority God has not permitted him to have. In the end, he and I will have to account for all our deeds, but I now have Jesus to take the punishment that I deserve while he has no one to take his anger except the people now.<br />
In praying for God to help me see the love he had towards someone else, God showed me a portion of the love that he has for me. I do not regret this prayer or denounce it, but I was caught off guard by its answer (or partial answer).<br />
I saw another picture too- in the abating of this man&#8217;s anger, he tapped me on the shoulder, said, &#8220;don&#8217;t worry about it,&#8221; and then left.<br />
How often have I done that to God when I have sinned, simply wanted to change the subject, &#8220;don&#8217;t worry about it,&#8221; and move on with everything the same and better than before? Brothers (and sisters if you are reading) this is what half-hearted repentance is to God! It makes God more distant because we treat the God we love and serve with a cavalier attitude and don&#8217;t see the wickedness of our sin or come to grips with why we were wrong.<br />
Let us learn to pray and learn to love and learn to repent.</p>
<p>A debtor until the last,<br />
Larry</p>
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		<title>The Name Game</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The BBC reports: A new form of Turkish Islam is emerging here, one which is pro-business and pro-free market, and it&#8217;s being called Islamic Calvinism. I was a little bewildered and my hopes rose as I thought of Biblicism spreading to the lost in Turkey. Is there a harvesting of muslims to Christ in the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=41&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4788712.stm">The BBC reports: </a></p>
<blockquote><p>A new form of Turkish Islam is emerging here, one which is pro-business and pro-free market, and it&#8217;s being called Islamic Calvinism.</p></blockquote>
<p>I was a little bewildered and my hopes rose as I thought of Biblicism spreading to the lost in Turkey.  Is there a harvesting of muslims to Christ in the public arena? Sadly no, these are not people from muslim backgrounds who have seen the glory of Christ in God’s soveriengty in salvation.  These are Turkish industrialists who happen to be “pious” muslims.  Equating the term &#8216;Calvinist&#8217; with industrial exeberance instead of the godward worldview, a mayor in Turkey has (understandably) recieved some media attention.  Keying off the &#8220;protestant work ethic,&#8221; he has misused this term.</p>
<p>Perhaps business should be used for the Kingdom, it seems that the sons of the world might be more shrewd than the sons of light.</p>
<p>I am challenged to pray for real Calvinists in Turkey.  Industrial advancement is certainly within the scope of “man’s” potential.  Creating God-besotted people in a godless land…nothing is impossible with God.</p>
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		<title>Objections to seeking our happiness in God and their answers!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A number of objections have come up to my using of the terms joy and happiness and my saying that we should seek our happiness in God. I have been wrestling with these, and if they cannot answer the objections, then I want to scrap them and to follow God in truth. Objection #1: You [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=40&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A number of objections have come up to my using of the terms joy and happiness and my saying that we should seek our happiness in God. I have been wrestling with these, and if they cannot answer the objections, then I want to scrap them and to follow God in truth.</p>
<p><strong>Objection #1:</strong> You are confounding joy and happiness… You see in the Psalms, when David is utterly in the pits, he has a hope that God will deliver him.<br />
<strong>Answer:</strong> I would return first that I think this objector is confounding joy and hope. Joy first of all, is defined as great happiness or something that makes someone rejoice. Hope on the other hand is defined as wanting or expecting something to happen.<br />
Hope is akin to a confidence or a trust in somebody or something. We see David describe his assurance and his trust in God, “For God alone, O my soul, wait in silence, for my HOPE is in him” (Psalm 62:5 ESV).<br />
Secondly, we see in the Psalms that when David is in the pits, he pleads for joy. After taking another man’s wife, and then sending him off to be murdered, David is stricken by godly sorrow. David pleads with God, “Let me hear JOY and gladness; let the bones that you have broken rejoice…Restore to me the JOY of your salvation, and uphold me with a willing spirit” (Psalm 51:8,11 ESV).<br />
Another place I find even more compelling in how David speaks directly of God delivering him from the pit. “O LORD, you have brought up my soul from Sheol; you restored me to life from among those who go down to the pit” (Psalm 30:3). Then he speaks of a pit-like experience two verses later, “Weeping may tarry for the night, but JOY comes with the morning” (vs 5). What is implied here is that joy is as much a change in countenance and mood from weeping as the light of a new day is from the blackness of the prior night. David does not describe being in joy WHILE he was in the pit, but speaks gladly of the God who delivered him from the pit. He tells how God turned his morning into dancing, and loosed his sackcloth (a garment worn for fasting, grief, penitence and extreme desperation) and clothed him with gladness (Psalm 30:11).</p>
<p><strong>Objection #2:</strong> For one, happiness is circumstantial, while joy is not. When things are good, you may be happy, but when everything is bad, you may be joyful.<br />
<strong>Answer:</strong> To answer the second objection, I would state that joy is also circumstantial. What?!!<br />
Yes, read on. Why do the early Christians (Hebrews 11) REJOICE at the plundering of their property? For the very reason that God is bringing to mind the circumstance that they have better possession in heaven. If this CIRCUMSTANCE, namely that they had a better and abiding possession somewhere else were not there, it would be better for them to, “Eat and drink, for tomorrow [they] die” (I Cor 15:32 ESV). God has stamped them with a joy that can never be taken away. God glorifies his name by bringing praise, rejoicing, etc. to his name during impossible circumstances.<br />
Isaiah foretold good news of great HAPPINESS (Isaiah 52:7 NASB).<br />
Why do the disciples REJOICE (be full of joy) and jump for joy that they were counted worthy to suffer for the gospel? “They left the presence of the council, rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer dishonor for the name” (Acts 5:41).<br />
Why does Jesus tell his disciples during Luke when they are persecuted to “Rejoice and JUMP for JOY on that day”?<br />
Of course, like the Christian’s happiness, the Christian’s joy is also circumstantial. It is hinged on the presence and abiding love of God. It is hinged on God’s approval and abiding influence in their lives. And if God puts his seal of approval (irrevocable) on a man or woman, then they cannot but have this seal uncovered and stared at in the midst of various trials. Then if the circumstance of God’s seal and Holy Spirit is present, then they may overcome all other circumstances. But this is not in spite of circumstances, but because of one very unique and special one that is greater than all of the others! That seal cannot be washed off or pried off or torn off by anything. Like the King issuing the edict in Esther could not revoke his seal, so God cannot revoke the seal of his Holy Spirit that he places on his people.<br />
What then, brothers, can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:35)? To paraphrase Paul, I wonder if it would be acceptable to ask, what then brothers can separate us from the Joy of God in Christ Jesus? Can plague, sickness, suffering, sorrow, death, demons, enemies, malicious talk, hatred, family disputes, or anything else? No, because we worship a God whose power and goodness are greater than all of these and shows us that we are not to be overcome by evil, but to overcome evil with Good (Romans 12:19-21). And digressing for a moment, I think this could apply to the remaining fruit of the Spirit, “What can separate us from the peace of God… What can separate us from the kindness of God… What can separate us from the patience of God? (Gal 5:22-23)”</p>
<p><strong>Objection #3:</strong> The world has happiness, but only Christians have joy. Furthermore, the joy that Christians experience is a choice, NOT an emotion.<br />
<strong>Answer:</strong> To answer the third objection, I will say that Jesus himself speaks of the world having joy. In his last hours with his disciples, Jesus tells them another parable to illustrate a spiritual truth that will soon be real to them. He uses the story of a woman going into labor, and then proceeds by saying that she will have sorrow knowing her hour has come. So too will the disciples have sorrow. But it does not end there. The woman will have JOY when she finds a baby born into the world. This is not a special joy that will only be for Christian mothers, but for mothers in general. The distinction between this woman’s joy and the disciple’s is that hers is temporal, while theirs will be eternal. The deep seated joy, rooted in the soil of the Holy Spirit, will not be dug up. There are things that God created that are good and cause many to take joy in them (babies, marriages, feasts, graduations, alms to the poor, etc.), but they are derivative and people of the world end up drinking trickles of the run-off instead of from the main basin of the fountain of joy.</p>
<p>And finally, I will come to my point of agreement with my objectors. The object of our happiness and of our joy being in anything less than God alone will be infinitely unsatisfying.</p>
<p>As I have time and understanding, I would like to talk later of some of the objections I have had. For example, if God created us for joy, then how come some of those closest to and most obedient to God cursed the day of their birth (Job and Jeremiah for example) and pleaded to God for death?<br />
Stay tuned!</p>
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		<title>The Joy of the Lord- A Deductive Argument</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The struggle for joy is not confined to new converts or to the youth in the Lord, but seen all over Christendom. Recently I heard a president of a prestigious Christian college say at a yearly gathering that God did not create &#8220;you and me to be happy. It was to be a holy living [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=39&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The struggle for joy is not confined to new converts or to the youth in the Lord, but seen all over Christendom. Recently I heard a president of a prestigious Christian college say at a yearly gathering that God did not create &#8220;you and me to be happy. It was to be a holy living worshipping body.&#8221; Are our happiness and our holiness mutually exclusive? Another pastor said recently, &#8220;Joy is NOT happiness&#8230; happiness comes from &#8216;happens&#8217;&#8230; etc.&#8221; I would like to deal with that argument later.</p>
<p>For now I would like to present a rationale, deductive argument to show the real emotional parts of joy. Let&#8217;s turn to the uses of the words and their definitions as well as some questions! What is the opposite of being happy or having happiness? Most likely, you would answer being sad or having sadness. What is a more extreme state of sadness? Many will rightly answer sorrow. Can you have sorrow without having sadness? I do not see how you can or can rationalize that from their definitions. Let us quickly view their definitions:<br />
· Sad- Unhappy, feeling/showing unhappiness/ sadness / grief / etc.<br />
· Sorrow- grief- feeling of DEEP sadness caused by loss or misfortune. Is sorrow an emotion?<br />
Now the opposite of sadness is happiness and the opposite of sorrow, as we see many places, is JOY (John 16:21-22 for example). Now how can sorrow, sadness, and happiness all be emotional states while joy is not? More on this, God willing, to come soon! Hopefully, as I have time, I can wrestles with and address the intermingling of these emotions as well.</p>
<p>For the JOY of the LORD is our strength,</p>
<p>Larry</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night as I returned from work, I watched the news and saw a very interesting story.<br />
A man, Matt Dubay of Saginaw, MI, filed suit to cease paying child support.<br />
The conclusions of Roe v Wade in 1973 are what caught my attention.<br />
The director for the National Center Men, Mel Feit, appeared to justify this case. He argued that a woman had the choice, if she wanted, to be free from paying child support. If she wanted, she could legally terminate her pregnancy or simply drop it off in a hospital or somewhere else and be free from any financial obligation to the child. Therefore, the father who was not ready to be a father, should also be free from the financial obligations to a child he was not ready for.<br />
The other arugment that was presented struck me as well. Mel argued that Dubay was simply responsible for forming a fetus (a mass of cells), which Lauren Wells chose to carry and allow to mature into a child.<br />
In this particular case there is one child at stake. However, my hope is that logic and reason will preside in the courts that many other lives will redeemed as well. This has the potential, I believe, to bring before a more logical Supreme Court a more concrete definition (and hopefully a more responsible one) of when a life is formed and what the obligations of men and women are. I hope it brings before us what our obligations are regarding the gift of sex and what the constraints of that gift are (marriage). I hope it brings back a more real fear of transgressing God&#8217;s boundaries and being responsible to God but leaves the transgressors open to view and see and experience God&#8217;s love and mercy and forgiveness.<br />
When I think of this sin and trangression, I am reminded of a God fearing man, said to be a man after God&#8217;s own heart, who fell himself to adultery and murder. He was stricken with a godly sorrow, and after pleading to be cleansed from his sin said, &#8220;Restore to me the JOY of your salvation&#8230; then I will teach transgressors your ways, and sinners will return to you. Deliver me from bloodguiltiness, O God, O God of my salvation, and my tongue will sing aloud of your righteousness&#8221; (Psalm 51:12-14 ESV).<br />
Lead us in Your ways, O God, and teach us to fear and obey You, that we may impart your joy and love and cleansing power to those in need and without hope.</p>
<p>By His Grace,<br />
Larry</p>
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		<title>Not much treasure here&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 07:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do Mr. Thimble, Long John Silver, and a marooned temptress swine have in common? You guessed it, Muppet Treasure Island. That was the latest film selection in my home. No, I don’t have kids that have begged for weeks to rent it, rather my wife and I were feeling a little kooky and picked [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=37&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do Mr. Thimble, Long John Silver, and a marooned temptress swine have in common?  You guessed it, Muppet Treasure Island.  That was the latest film selection in my home.  No, I don’t have kids that have begged for weeks to rent it, rather my wife and I were feeling a little kooky and picked it up.</p>
<p>Allow me to get straight to it, most of the film left me disappointed.  It did however have some really strong characters, like the two sarcastic old guys (who were actually figureheads on the prow of the vessal), and as you might have guessed were my favorites.  Also, the dramatically overplayed (yes I know it was a kids movie that purposely pulled every cliché for its due turn) Billy Bones was enjoyable with his drunken UK accent.  The picture of complex hand puppets interacting with this salty old sailor drowning his fears in rum is frankly hilarious.</p>
<p>Some things I did not enjoy were the numerous hints to Ms. Piggy’s promiscuous past.  Is there something wrong with me that I think it seems ill-placed to have a sock puppet drudging up her licentious history?  Or am I worse for taking the token sexual references this seriously?  Well, the jury is still out on me, but I don’t enjoy our culture’s introduction of these themes into children’s/family cinema.</p>
<p>Another contention for me was Long John Silver’s use of the Bible in a category of foolish superstition.  Yes, I know I am talking about a movie full of hand puppets for children, but when the Bible is presented alongside ghosts with all manner of sea-faring folly, I again resent the influence of the post-Christian environs.</p>
<p>I am sure that one can do worse than Muppet Treasure Island, but hopefully, we can do a lot better.  In the meantime, I hope I don’t have nightmares of sock puppets attacking me with head-shivering, rubber-limb-gyrating, open-mouth-exaggerated, partial-body-viewing, swashbuckling fury!</p>
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		<title>Poetry, Doctrine, Sabbath&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 20:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just started reading From Sabbath to Lord&#8217;s Day (edited by D.A. Carson) in preparation for a class paper on the Sabbath. I actually began reading it in a Regis Salon waiting for a haircut, but that story is for another time&#8230; What I found in Carson&#8217;s introduction was quite beautiful, and impressed me to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=36&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just started reading <span style="font-style:italic;">From Sabbath to Lord&#8217;s Day</span> (edited by D.A. Carson) in preparation for a class paper on the Sabbath.  I actually began reading it in a <span style="font-style:italic;">Regis Salon</span> waiting for a haircut, but that story is for another time&#8230;</p>
<p>What I found in Carson&#8217;s introduction was quite beautiful, and impressed me to share:</p>
<p>Some Christian to the Lord regard a day,<br />
And others to the Lord regard it not;<br />
Now, though these seem to choose a diff&#8217;rent way,<br />
yet both, at last, to one same point are brought.</p>
<p>He that regards the day will reason thus-<br />
&#8220;This glorious day our Saviour and our King<br />
Perform&#8217;d some mighty act of love for us;<br />
Observe the time in mem&#8217;ry of the thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thus he to Jesus point his kind intent,<br />
And offers prayers and praises in his name;<br />
As to the Lord above his love is meant,<br />
The Lord accepts it; and who dare to blame?</p>
<p>For, though the shell indeed is not the meat,<br />
&#8216;Tis not rejected when the meat&#8217;s within;<br />
Though superstition is a vain conceit,<br />
Commemoration surely is no sin.</p>
<p>He also, that to days has no regard,<br />
The shadows only for the substance quits;<br />
Towards the Saviour&#8217;s presence presses hard,<br />
And outward things through eagerness omits.</p>
<p>For warmly to himself he thus reflects-<br />
&#8220;My Lord alone I count my chiefest good;<br />
All empty forms my craving soul rejects,<br />
And seeks the solid riches of his blood.</p>
<p>&#8220;All days and times I place my sole delight<br />
In him, the only object of my care;<br />
External shows for his dear sake I slight,<br />
Lest ought but Jesus my respect should share.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let not th&#8217; observer, therefore, entertain<br />
Against his brother any secret grudge;<br />
Nor let the non-observer call him vain;<br />
But use his freedom, and forbear to judge.</p>
<p>Thus both may bring their motives to the test;<br />
Ourcondescending Lord will both approve.<br />
Let each pursue the way that likes him best;<br />
he cannot walk amiss, that walks in love.</p>
<p>by Joseph Hart (1712-1768)</p>
<p>as quoted in <span style="font-style:italic;">From Sabbath to Lord&#8217;s Day: A Biblical, Historical, and Theological Investigation</span>, edited by D.A. Carson, Wipf and Stock Publishers.</p>
<p>Enjoy the poem and the freedom we share in Christ.</p>
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		<title>No Tolls, No Rolls</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 07:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think I got my taxes done last night. Hurray for the bureaucracy that produces 1000 forms and 10000 explanatory pages keyed to those forms. Having never done them before (I’ve always been under the parental umbrella) it was definitely a learning experience. One of the things I did not expect to learn however was [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=35&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">I think I got my taxes done last night.<span>  </span>Hurray for the bureaucracy that produces 1000 forms and 10000 explanatory pages keyed to those forms.<span>  </span>Having never done them before (I’ve always been under the parental umbrella) it was definitely a learning experience.<span>  </span>One of the things I did not expect to learn however was that “If line 38 is over $109,475, or you provided housing to a person displaced by Hurricane Katrina, see page 37” these two things are related.<span>  </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I also learned yesterday that <i>diaeresis</i> is not a gastrointestinal event, but a Greek pronunciation mark.<span>  </span>Well, there it is.</p>
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		<title>a Mountain over a Molinism</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[a.k.a. “Molinism in the Workplace II” This is my response to the previous post, &#8220;Molinism in the Workplace.&#8221; If you haven&#8217;t read it, check it out here. Mat 11:20-24 Then he began to denounce the cities where most of his mighty works had been done, because they did not repent. Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=34&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.25in;text-indent:-0.25in;"><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;color:teal;">a.k.a. “Molinism in the Workplace II”</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.25in;text-indent:-0.25in;"><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;color:teal;"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.25in;text-indent:-0.25in;"><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;color:teal;"></span></p>
<blockquote><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.25in;text-indent:-0.25in;"><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;color:teal;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);">This is my response to the previous post, &#8220;Molinism in the Workplace.&#8221;  If you haven&#8217;t read it, check it out <a href="http://5pointers.blogspot.com/2006/02/molinism-in-workplace.html">here</a>.</span><br />
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.25in;text-indent:-0.25in;"><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;color:teal;">Mat 11:20-24</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;">Then he began to denounce the cities where most of his mighty works had been done, because they did not repent. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;color:red;">Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.</span><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;"><span>  </span><span style="color:red;">But I tell you, it will be more bearable on the day of judgment for Tyre and Sidon than for you.<span>  </span>And you, Capernaum, will you be exalted to heaven? You will be brought down to Hades. For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.</span><span>  </span><span style="color:red;">But I tell you that it will be more tolerable on the day of judgment for the land  of Sodom than for you.</span> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">
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<p class="MsoNormal">So Jesus is arguing in Matthew 11 that </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span>a.)<span>    </span></span><!--[endif]-->since the people in Tyre and Sidon <i>would have</i> repented at seeing and hearing the same thing the people of Chorazin and Bethsaida have seen and heard</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span>b.)<span>    </span></span><!--[endif]-->repentance and saving faith in Christ are subject to the circumstance (evidence) at hand</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.5in;text-indent:-0.25in;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span>c.)<span>    </span></span><!--[endif]-->therefore irresistable grace (or effectual calling) in the Calvinist sense is false.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I hope to show briefly and biblically why I think the above statement of Jesus argument is not correct.<span>  </span>In the process I hope it is evident that this is a matter of great importance as it is at the <i>heart of the Gospel!</i><span>  </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think it is appropriate at this point to highlight a few things from Matthew 11, namely the immediate context of the above quotation.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.25in;text-indent:-0.25in;"><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;color:teal;"></span></p>
<blockquote><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.25in;text-indent:-0.25in;"><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;color:teal;">Mat 11:16-19</span><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;"><span>  </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;color:red;">But to what shall I compare this generation? It is like children sitting in the marketplaces and calling to their playmates,</span><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;"> <span style="color:red;">&#8220;&#8216;We played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge, and you did not mourn.&#8217;</span><span>  </span><span style="color:red;">For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, &#8216;He has a demon.&#8217;</span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;color:red;">The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, &#8216;Look at him! A glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!&#8217; Yet wisdom is justified by her deeds.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;color:red;"></span><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Before we look at what Jesus says in 20-24, we must ask “What does he mean here?”, or at least “How do his words here give the background of his next statements?”</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So briefly, what does it mean for the children to play a dirge and not mourn, for them to play a flute and not dance?<span>  </span>Clearly, something is wrong.<span>  </span>They are not responding as they aught.<span>  </span>A flute is for dancing as a dirge is for mourning, right?<span>  </span>So too John and his message is for repentance (fasting) as Jesus came for fullness of holy joy (eating and drinking.)<span>  </span>Yet on both accounts the children in the parallelism (the people in Palestine) reacted wrongly.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">
<p class="MsoNormal">NOW he denounces the cities:</p>
<blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;color:red;">Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.</span><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;"><span>  </span><span style="color:red;">But I tell you, it will be more bearable on the day of judgment for Tyre and Sidon than for you.</span></span></p>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;"><span style="color:red;"></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Continuing in this line of thought, Jesus says, [caution, Mark’s paraphrase:] “even the ‘Twin Cities’ (Tyre and Sidon, gentile cities to the northwest) would have repented (que gasp from holy-roller audience&#8230;wha, even them!) should they have seen such things.”<span>  </span>Then he ups the ante and compares them to Sodom!<span>  </span>Sodom is nigh the pit of hell.<span>  </span>It was so rotten that God did not wait until the last day to judge it, but wiped it out by fire from on high!<span>  </span>At this point we should be amazed, clearly the state of the hearts in this crowd are sinful beyond comprehension.<span>  </span>These are humbling words as the people <i>do not respond rightly from their hearts*</i>.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But now Jesus says something that requires that we not interpret these statements as indicative of how grace works in salvation, but as condemnation via comparison.<span>  </span>He states in verses 25-27:</p>
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<blockquote><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0.25in;text-indent:-0.25in;"><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;color:teal;">Mat 11:25-27</span><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;"><span>  </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:11px;">At that time Jesus declared, <span style="color:red;">&#8220;I thank you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that you have hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to little children;</span> <span style="color:red;">yes, Father, for such was your gracious will.</span><span>  </span><span style="color:red;">All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So quite clearly here Jesus shares as he rejoices in the Father that he (the Father) has hidden some things from the ‘wise’ and revealed them to ‘little children.’ <span> </span>This is what pleases God, and he reveals to those whom the Son chooses to reveal him.<span>  </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This brings me to three points:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.75pt;text-indent:-18.75pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span>1.)<span>    </span></span><!--[endif]-->“I will reveal to whom I will reveal,” I’ve heard that talk before&#8230;(c.f. Romans 9:15 &amp; John 1:13)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.75pt;text-indent:-18.75pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span>2.)<span>    </span></span><!--[endif]-->Where is all the talk of people mustering their intellect to believe based on these miracles?<span>  </span>Where is Jesus telling them they should get their act together to save themselves through him?<span>  </span>I don’t see it.<span>  </span>Instead this passage affirms God’s soveriegnty to the praise of his glorious grace.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.75pt;text-indent:-18.75pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span>3.)<span>    </span></span><!--[endif]-->Who is ‘wise and understanding’, surely it would be he who repents.<span>  </span>So Jesus is saying something here like “hidden from the wise <i>in their own eyes</i>” or “understanding <i>in their own thought</i>.”<span>  </span>You see there is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, after looking at the passage a little more, I think it is clear that the “hypothetical belief” of other peoples, should they have seen the same miracles, is really misunderstanding the comparison Jesus makes and smuggling in synergism to replace the meaning of the idiom.<span>  </span></p>
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<p>  <span>Also, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll get back to this for a while since I really have to do my taxes.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>On the Level?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A friend of mine mentioned something interesting to me at the end of last week. It was that their disciplee did not think the Psalms or epistles should be read at the same level as the gospels. The argument was that the gospels gave eyeswitness accounts of Jesus, while the rest were just man&#8217;s words [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=33&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine mentioned something interesting to me at the end of last week. It was that their disciplee did not think the Psalms or epistles should be read at the same level as the gospels. The argument was that the gospels gave eyeswitness accounts of Jesus, while the rest were just man&#8217;s words of wisdom. Since I used to feel the same way about Paul&#8217;s letters, this comment got me thinking&#8230; and writing.<br />
First of all I would like to say that without faith it is impossible to plesae God if you do not believe that God rewards those who seek him (Heb 11:6).<br />
The objections to the Psalms and epistles are, first of all, ones that only God can answer. I struggled with the epistles too before I became a Christian and even in my early days. &#8220;Why are Paul&#8217;s writings so emphasized at the cost of Jesus&#8217; words?&#8221; &#8220;Doesn&#8217;t Paul contradict what Jesus says here?&#8221; &#8220;In all, it seems Paul just has some good words of advice that I do not need to follow here because MY situation is different.&#8221; Those were some of my thoughts!<br />
The Psalms are Scripture because we see their prophecies fulfilled and they were reverenced by Jesus and the early Christians.<br />
For example, Psalm 34:20, &#8220;he keeps all of his bones; not one of them is broken&#8221; (which the NRSV and gender neutral Bibles wrongly translate &#8220;their bones&#8221;) is fulfilled in John 19:36, &#8220;&#8230;So that Scripture would be fulfilled, not one of HIS bones will be broken.&#8221; Or Ps 22&#8230; fulfilling 1) the casting of lots for the division of Christ&#8217;s clothing (Ps 22:18 to John 19:23-24); 2) Jesus&#8217; words on the cross, &#8220;My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?&#8221; (Ps 22:1 to Matt 27:46 and Mark 15:34); 3) Jesus&#8217; words, &#8220;I thirst&#8221; to &#8220;my tongue sticks to my jaws&#8230;&#8221; Ps 22:15 (also Ps 69:21 to Luke 22:36); 4) Ps 22:16 &#8220;They have pierced my hands and feet,&#8221; crucifixion (Luke 23:33 and Luke 24:40). And all these are things David was describing years before!<br />
Jesus&#8217; veneration of the Psalms is seen in his use of them to answer the Pharisees. Among other places, He saw himself as fulfilling a verse, quoting in Matthew 22:44, &#8220;The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hands, until I put your enemies under your feet,&#8217;&#8221; which is directly from David (Ps 110:1). Go to the verse right before, Matthew 22:43, and point out that Jesus himelf (in the eyewitness testimony) said that David was &#8220;in the Spirit&#8221; when he said these things. Later, Stephen personalizes the Psalm as he is about to be martyred, &#8220;[I see] the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God&#8221; (Acts 7:56).<br />
Next time, let&#8217;s discuss the grounds for the epistles being Scripture!<br />
By His Grace,<br />
Larry</p>
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		<title>Praise God</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So as you may have already read, John Piper&#8217;s surgery went well. Praise God for these answered prayers, and pray for his recovery.<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=32&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So as you may have already read, <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/news_events/dgm_news/2006/20060106_cancer_announcement.html">John Piper&#8217;s surgery went well.</a>  Praise God for these answered prayers, and pray for his recovery.</p>
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		<title>Molinism in the workplace</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently in a conversation of the ‘doctrines of grace’ with a coworker, the topic of effectual calling, or irresistible grace came up. I was surprised when my friend said he was a Calvinist, but did not agree with the 5 points. (Yes, I know that Calvinism is more than the “5 points”…) So of course [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=31&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently in a conversation of the ‘doctrines of grace’ with a coworker, the topic of effectual calling, or irresistible grace came up.  I was surprised when my friend said he was a Calvinist, but did not agree with the 5 points. (Yes, I know that Calvinism is more than the “5 points”…)  So of course I think, oh, Specific Atonement, right?  <a href="http://5pointers.blogspot.com/2005/12/l-in-tulip.html">He must be offended by Larry.</a>  Surprisingly no!  He claimed God’s calling is not effectual, and he provided Matthew 11:20-24 as a prooftext.  So to Matthew 11 I went.  </p>
<p>The Lord is speaking in this passage, denouncing cities that he has performed miracles in.  (I know, I know, “What of the wider context Mark?”  Just let me have my foil, we’ll look at the context next time…)</p>
<p> <i>Then he began to denounce the cities where most of his mighty works had been done, because they did not repent. &#8220;Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! <b>For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.</b> But I tell you, it will be more bearable on the day of judgment for Tyre and Sidon than for you. And you, Capernaum, will you be exalted to heaven? You will be brought down to Hades. For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. But I tell you that it will be more tolerable on the day of judgment for the land of Sodom than for you.&#8221; (ESV)</i>[Emphasis mine]</p>
<p>I will summarize his argument and evaluate his point for myself.</p>
<p>1.)  If the works done in Chorazin and Bethsaida were performed in Tyre and Sidon, then they (people of T&amp;S) would have believed.<br />
2.)  This belief is based on the seeing of the works and hearing Jesus’ teaching.<br />
3.)  The grace of Christ is the showing of the signs and proclaiming of his teaching.<br />
4.)  Since one (city of people) believes (or would have believed according to Jesus) and one (city of people) does not, in spite of the same evidence or grace…therefore believing is a heart decision of the person and is apart from some “effectual or irresistible grace.”<br />
5.)  Therefore it is biblical to stand with the remonstrants on the ‘I’ of TULIP.</p>
<p>I am very glad that this friend brought up this discussion topic and this text.  It took me a little while to sort through what he was saying and see his argument (which I have attempted to distill above.)  Once I wrote out what he was saying, it just clicked.</p>
<p>I was startled when over at <a href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14557211&amp;postID=113966668550405682">The Head of the Moor</a> I found a conversation that went into the “Middle Knowledge” view of God, hence the link to “Molinism.”  I was further surpirsed when I found the example of Matthew 11 in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molinism">Wikipedia as a proof-text for Molinism!</a></p>
<p>At first I thought I was looking at an example of Synergism, and indeed I was, but since then I’ve been blessed by these resources (and others) to see this is Molinism at the heart driving this interpretation that results in the synergism of the above argument.</p>
<p>So what is wrong with this view of God’s knowledge and our will?</p>
<p>Well, I hope to write about that next time, starting from Matthew 11 and discussing what some smarter/wiser folks have said about it…</p>
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		<title>In a mirror dimly (IV)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the final post in my brief and rather brief series on my thoughts that were spurred by A.B. Caneday&#8217;s contribution (&#8220;Veiled Glory&#8230;&#8221;) to &#8220;Beyond the Bounds.&#8221; I&#8217;ve been reading in the blogosphere, and picked up this the other day from the comments at the Mongrel Horde (they are just mutts you know.) Now [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=30&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the final post in my brief and rather brief series on my thoughts that were spurred by A.B. Caneday&#8217;s contribution (&#8220;Veiled Glory&#8230;&#8221;) to &#8220;Beyond the Bounds.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading in the blogosphere, and picked up <a href="http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=18785001&amp;postID=113877371971383928">this</a> the other day from the comments at the <a href="http://mongrelhorde.blogspot.com">Mongrel Horde</a> (they are just mutts you know.)</p>
<p>Now the reason <i>that</i> was important is simply that it demonstrates quite perspicuously how much of a neophyte I am in theology.  I do plan however, to comment as I learn new things.  </p>
<p>Chesterton in his <i>Orthodoxy</i> shared the parable of a man who sets out to discover a new isle, and by small mistake lands back in the British Isles ready to stake a claim on the uncharted land.  He realizes of course that he is a few centuries late to the civilization&#8230;so it is with me and the things of God, I&#8217;m a few millenia late to the truths of God and uncounted thousands have already explored such sites.  </p>
<p>So I hope to continue following these trails of thought marked out by explorers before me and learning from thier finds&#8230; Lord willing I&#8217;ll post on analogy in greater depth after reading further on the subject.  Don&#8217;t hold your breath for it though, it might be a while.  </p>
<p>-mark</p>
<p>Currently Reading:</p>
<p>*Gospel account of Luke<br />
*Augustine: <i>Confessions</i><br />
*<i>The London Baptist Confession of Faith of 1689</i><br />
*G.K. Chesterton: <i>Four Faultless Felons</i></p>
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		<title>mine: 155 :: yours: 2.5</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2006 19:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife and I watched “Yours, Mine, and Ours” last night after polishing off our favs from the Happy China (or was it China Garden?) Regardless we invested about 155 minutes in entertaining ourselves with a film. The YMAO that we watched is the Henry Fonda/Lucille Ball, 1968 version (not the Steve Martin et al, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=29&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I watched “Yours, Mine, and Ours” last night after polishing off our favs from the <i>Happy China</i> (or was it <i>China Garden</i>?)  Regardless we invested about 155 minutes in entertaining ourselves with a film.  The YMAO that we watched is the Henry Fonda/Lucille Ball, 1968 version (not the Steve Martin et al, remake).  The film follows two widowers (and their large broods) who chance upon each other, fall in love, and bring thier families together to make, eventually, a 21 member clan.</p>
<p>One of my favorite parts of watching films recently has been the ensuing discussions.  Some dear friends of ours had a practice of stopping the film just before some climactic moments to break for tea and cookies, or the occasional ice cream treat.  I think it’s a great idea by the way, and you might want to take a few such breaks if you are indulging in say <i>Lawrence of Arabia</i>, or an LOTR extended edition member.</p>
<p>A further encouragement of critically watching and discussing films came from Prof. John Frame (no I don’t personally know John Frame, sigh) but his <a href="”http://www.frame-poythress.org/frame_books.htm#theologyatthemovies”">Theology at the Movies</a> is very thought provoking, especially his <a href="”http://www.frame-poythress.org/frame_books/TATM/chapter3.htm”">questions</a> chapter. </p>
<p>[A brief side-note; The practice of asking questions immediately following or during a brief brake of a film has caused my wife and I to see more clearly a films message, content and effect on us so that we enjoy films more critically and avoid the passive viewership that is ignorant of the sludge it is feeding on.  Don’t get me wrong, I’m not any more holy because we ask questions after a film, rather I have been pleasantly blessed by my wife’s insights, that I would have missed, and am more attentive to what is being said in a film and how we <i>both</i> receive it and are induced by it.]</p>
<p>Coming into YMAO, I thought I would enjoy it greatly&#8230;a nearly 40 year old family flick, what’s not to like?  I was very disappointed.  The casual nature of references to alcohol, sex, and suicide were troubling to say the least.  Neither one of us were expecting such a godless worldview as we found in the film.  Regrettably we didn’t think about the effect of the late 1960’s on the film industry and how that zeitgeist would now be aired in our home.</p>
<p>I don’t share just frowns after YMAO.  The development of some of the characters was delightful, specifically Phillip, the little boy who gets lost in the shuffle of the 21 person family.  Also, the bond of the family members for one another (after the initial growing pains of the 2 family merger&#8230;) is endearing and it is clear that the enjoyment of, and emphasis on the family has not completely left pop culture at the end of the 60’s.</p>
<p>Other things I took away from the film were the positive view of the military, providing for and protecting one’s family, and the sacrifice the father made in his career for the sake of his kids following his first wife’s passing.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t recommend the film, and I am not under any inducement from this film to see the remake that is now in theatres (or is its run done? not sure)</p>
<p>So, my investment: 155 minutes, yours: 2.5 minutes of reading my rant.  And our combined time is probably better spent reading the <a href="”purgatorio1.com/?p=206#comments”">meta at Purgatorio</a> on the <a href="”http://teenagejesus.com/jesus.htm”">Teen Jesus</a> kitsch scandal of 2006.</p>
<p>-mark</p>
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		<title>Fear of God- Come now let us reason</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 07:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fear of God is, I believe, a real sense of trembling, dread, and quaking that go far beyond simple awe and reverence. Give me a man who is or has been in love and he will understand what I mean. Any honorable man coming before the woman he loves will be seized with trembling. This [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=28&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fear of God is, I believe, a real sense of trembling, dread, and quaking that go far beyond simple awe and reverence. Give me a man who is or has been in love and he will understand what I mean. Any honorable man coming before the woman he loves will be seized with trembling. This creature he admires so has stunned him with her beauty and dealt another blow by her purity. His previous strength, no matter how great, is now captivated by her mere presence. The weaker sex has shown herself to recruit more strength than any physical might can enlist. And if the complement to man can do this, causing knocking of the knees, gasping, and palpating of the heart, how much more will God, whose beauty and purity transcend that of any woman a thousand times, cause these things to happen? Can anyone coming before those qualities of radiance in God and allowed to see them for what they are not be seized with a fit of unworthiness or be driven to their knees in submission? As with a mere word, smile, or nod of approval, a woman may dispel much of the fear she instilled, so too and much more can God take a man, prostrate as though dead, say, &#8220;Do not be afraid,&#8221; and grant him the ability to stand and live much more than ever before. This very real fear of God will, I believe, lead to a submission to God and death of fear to worldly things.</p>
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		<title>God Moves in a Mysterious Way</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 10:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it no accident that William Cowper (pronounced Cooper) author of the poem God Moves in a Mysterious Way was greatly encouraged by John Newton- the writer of Amazing Grace. Here is one of the mysterious ways that Newton recounts God&#8217;s moving in, and one that has encouraged me to find my rest and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=27&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it no accident that William Cowper (pronounced Cooper) author of the poem <a href="http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/g/m/gmovesmw.htm">God Moves in a Mysterious Way</a> was greatly encouraged by John Newton- the writer of Amazing Grace. Here is one of the mysterious ways that Newton recounts God&#8217;s moving in, and one that has encouraged me to find my rest and hope in God alone:</p>
<p>I asked the Lord, that I may grow<br />
In faith, and love, and every grace;<br />
Might more of his salvation know,<br />
And seek more earnestly his face&#8230;</p>
<p>I hoped that in some favoured hour,<br />
At once he&#8217;d answer my request;<br />
And by his love&#8217;s constraining power,<br />
Subdue my sins, and give me rest.</p>
<p>Instead of this, he made me feel<br />
The hidden evils of my heart;<br />
And let the angry powers of hell<br />
Assault my soul in every part.</p>
<p>Yea more, with his own hand he seemed<br />
Intent to aggravate my woe;<br />
Crossed all the fair designs I schemed,<br />
Blasted my gourds, and laid me low.</p>
<p>Lord, why is this, I trembling cried,<br />
Wilt thou pursue thy worm to death?<br />
&#8220;&#8216;Tis in this way,&#8221; the Lord replied,<br />
&#8220;I answer prayer for grace and faith.</p>
<p>&#8220;These inward trials I employ,<br />
From self and pride to set thee free;<br />
And break thy schemes of earthly joy,<br />
That thou mayst seek thy all in me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Vital Signs</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 10:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I looked at my journal the other night, I found an entry from December, from Christmas day actually, that rather convicted me. A lot of it has to do with my motivations for following God, and whether I am motivated by God alone or by something else. It doesn&#8217;t have the best literary value. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=26&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I looked at my journal the other night, I found an entry from December, from Christmas day actually, that rather convicted me. A lot of it has to do with my motivations for following God, and whether I am motivated by God alone or by something else. It doesn&#8217;t have the best literary value. It is though an assessment of my spiritual vitals and what it is that keeps me and what it is that breathing keeps my heart beating.</p>
<p>If I were to be nothing, would I still follow? If I never married or was never accepted by the woman who grabbed my heart in a special way, would I still be able to love others and maintain convictions on living a holy life, taking account of what I watch, listen to, and seek for entertainment? If I never had the opportunity to go on a missions trip, would I still pray and dream and believe? If no one listened to me on the changes in my life, but ignored me, and I never &#8220;led anyone to faith,&#8221; would I still make time for and cherish time in the middle of the night with God, reading and praying, with no one to know about it except God?</p>
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		<title>In a mirror dimly (III)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 10:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this installment of the &#8220;two or more part series&#8221; (please hold the laughter) of reactions to A.B. Caneday&#8217;s &#8220;Veiled Glory&#8230;&#8221; (a chapter contribution to &#8220;Beyond the Bounds&#8221;), I&#8217;d like to say a few words about types and truth. The thought that has been in the back of my mind for the past few weeks [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=25&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this installment of the &#8220;<a href="http://5pointers.blogspot.com/2006/01/in-mirror-dimly-ii.html">two or more part series</a>&#8221; (please hold the laughter) of reactions to A.B. Caneday&#8217;s &#8220;Veiled Glory&#8230;&#8221; (a chapter contribution to &#8220;Beyond the Bounds&#8221;), I&#8217;d like to say a few words about types and truth.</p>
<p>The thought that has been in the back of my mind for the past few weeks focuses on the manifestation of spiritual truth in physical reality by God. Caneday talks about God making man in his own image, and that image being the means by which we can understand something about God. God specifically applied certain characteristics to us that are his own. Thought, emotion, passion, being, appreciation for beauty, creative impulses, etc. Whereas we are not like God in his perfection, there is some image of him that he made us in (or in us).</p>
<p>Thinking about image, I considered the subject of spiritual truth present directly and analogously in natural things. For instance, Jesus in parables appeals to all manner of natural phenomena that most of us can relate to. Was he just really really clever in finding these analogies?</p>
<p>No. I think since Jesus created and sustains all things, he intentionally designed the universe to reflect those truths. So instead of plants having some chiefly pragmatic reason for growing the way they do, they grow primarily to illustrate spiritual growth. </p>
<p>Or as another example, when Jesus is explaining spiritual birth to Nicodemus (in John 3), he says that the “<i>&#8230;wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes.  So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.</i>”(ESV)  Did Jesus produce that illustration “on the spot” if you will?  I think while he could have, the analogy is inherent in God’s creation of wind such that it will illustrate how he made spiritual birth to function.  </p>
<p>I was able to put this concept in words for myself for the first time after reading Canaday.  It is an exciting moment to understand something new that is and feels quite old.</p>
<p>Next time, Lord willing, I’ll discuss some examples that highlight the import of this concept and perhaps explore some more examples.</p>
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		<title>Your Attention Is Required</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday I read Justin Taylor&#8217;s post on abortion here. I also recently listened to John Piper&#8217;s sermon &#8220;Love Your Unborn Neighbor&#8221;, that you can find here, or read it here. This is obviously about more than abortion, murder, and greed. How can I live oblivious to a holocaust? How can I pass by as the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=24&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday I read Justin Taylor&#8217;s post on abortion <a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2006/01/roe-v-wade-33rd-anniversary.html">here.</a></p>
<p>I also recently listened to John Piper&#8217;s sermon &#8220;Love Your Unborn Neighbor&#8221;, that you can find <a href="http://www.biblicalpreaching.info/sermons.php?preacher_search=2&amp;customquery=search">here</a>, or read it <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/library/sermons/06/012206.html">here</a>.</p>
<p>This is obviously about more than abortion, murder, and greed.  How can I live oblivious to a holocaust?  How can I pass by as the levite and priest passed by the wounded stranger?  Why do I not love my unborn neighbors?  </p>
<p>I need Christ.  They need Christ.</p>
<p>(Hat-Tip: <a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com">Justin Taylor</a>)</p>
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		<title>Portion of Augustine</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 07:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Hear my prayer, O Lord, let not my soul faint under thy correction: nor let me faint in confessing unto thee thine own mercies, by which thou hast drawn me out of all mine own most wicked courses: that thyself mightest from hence forward grow sweet unto me, beyond all those allurements which heretofore I [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=23&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hear my prayer, O Lord, let not my soul faint under thy correction: nor let me faint in confessing unto thee thine own mercies, by which thou hast drawn me out of all mine own most wicked courses: that thyself mightest from hence forward grow sweet unto me, beyond all those allurements which heretofore I followed; and that I might most entirely love thee, and lay hold upon thy hand with all the powers of my heart, that thou mightest finally draw me out of all danger of temptation.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Taken from W.Watts&#8217; 1631 translation of St. Augustine&#8217;s <i>Confessions</i>)</p>
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		<title>A startling consensus</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A brief compendium of quotes from church leaders on cessationism from Faith and Practice: Cessationism&#8217;s Noble Lineage, by Nathan Busenitz This is indeed a startling consensus, and quite a noble lineage. I am very thankful at this point that the internet (and blogosphere) exists and so much information is available so rapidly. As I am [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=22&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A brief compendium of quotes from church leaders on cessationism from <a href="http://faithandpractice.blogspot.com">Faith and Practice</a>:</p>
<p><a href="http://faithandpractice.blogspot.com/2006/01/cessationisms-noble-lineage.html">Cessationism&#8217;s Noble Lineage</a>, by Nathan Busenitz</p>
<p>This is indeed a startling consensus, and quite a noble lineage.  I am very thankful at this point that the internet (and blogosphere) exists and so much information is available so rapidly.  As I am investigating what the Bible says on the subject of spiritual gifts, and reading what many of my heros have written concerning it, I am daily challenged. </p>
<p>(HT: <a href="http://www.agent000.com">Eric Nielsen</a>)</p>
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		<title>A picture that has done my heart good today</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;A company of travellers fall into a pit: one of them gets a passenger to draw him out. Now he should not be angry with the rest for falling in; nor because they are not yet out, as he is. He did not pull himself out: instead, therefore, of reproaching them, he should shew them [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=21&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;A company of travellers fall into a pit: one of them gets a passenger to draw him out. Now he should not be angry with the rest for falling in; nor because they are not yet out, as he is. He did not pull himself out: instead, therefore, of reproaching them, he should shew them pity. . . . A man, truly illuminated, will no more despise others, then Bartimeus, after his own eyes were opened, would take a stick, and beat every blind man he met.&#8221; </p>
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<div><a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/library/biographies/01newton.html">(Quote from John Newton from Richard Cecil, Memoirs of the Rev. John Newton, p. 105. as quoted by John Piper)</a></div>
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		<title>Ceasing or Filling?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently the debate over the ceasing or continuing of spiritual gifts as in the time of the New Testament Apostles, a.k.a. Cessationism or Continuationism debate, has been all over the blogosphere (Challies w/ Grudem (you&#8217;ll find the links to Waldron), From the Head of the Moor, PyroManiac, Fide-O amoung others), and it has been educational [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=20&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently the debate over the ceasing or continuing of spiritual gifts as in the time of the New Testament Apostles, a.k.a. Cessationism or Continuationism debate, has been all over the blogosphere (<a href="http://www.challies.com/archives/001518.php">Challies w/ Grudem</a> (you&#8217;ll find the links to Waldron), <a href="http://jmoorhead.blogspot.com/2006/01/total-cessationism-part-i.html">From the Head of the Moor</a>, <a href="http://phillipjohnson.blogspot.com">PyroManiac</a>, <a href="http://fide-o.blogspot.com">Fide-O</a> amoung others), and it has been educational to read views from all sides.  I was reading <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=53&amp;chapter=13&amp;version=47">1 Corinthians 13</a> today and was surprised by what I found in reading and meditating on it.</p>
<p>Consider with me the following:</p>
<p>(starting with verse 2) “&#8230;[I]<span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 153);">f I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing</span>.”</p>
<p>So far so good right? Love is the chiefly valuable part of exercising prophetic powers and removing mountains, without it we’re just hosers.</p>
<p>(then continuing from verse 8) “<span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 153);">Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away.</span>”</p>
<p>Notice that Paul says that currently we prophecy and know in part. Also, he says that our knowledge, prophecy, and tongues (speaking) will pass away or cease. It seems as though he is saying the gifts themselves will expire. I stopped at this point and thought, “that doesn’t make sense&#8230;while I can accept that prophecy and tongues cease&#8230;it does not make sense with knowledge? Won’t we know God more? Why would knowledge cease?” Well, let’s read on:</p>
<p>(continuing with vs 11)“<span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 153);">When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.</span>”</p>
<p>This analogy flips the passage back around when we consider the shift from child to adult. As a child understands in a childish way, but a man understands fully (in the analogy.) Paul then presses home the point by highlighting how our knowing of God will deepen at this point (the coming of the ‘perfect’), and with how we will see fully as opposed to seeing darkly through a glass. <i>It seems as though the ceasing and passing away is only applicable to the <b>partial</b> nature of the gifts.</i> This leads me to the following conclusions and questions:</p>
<p>1.) Pre-“perfect” knowledge, prophecy and tongues are “partial.”</p>
<p>2.) Post-“perfect” knowledge, prophecy, and tongues will be in fullness.</p>
<p>3.) The ceasing of these gifts will be the partial component and they          will be replaced with fullness of gifts.</p>
<p>4.) Has the “perfect” come?<br />
A.) whether the perfect is Christ in his return, or the Holy Bible in it’s closed canon, the result is still a fullness of these gifts in the presence of the perfect.</p>
<p>5.) This passage says nothing of the experience of these gifts as a metric for determining thier presense in a specific epoch or the time of thier cessation.<br />
A.) I am not saying that there are not other passages that deal with cessation of gifts, but it doesn’t appear to say they will end here, but rather come into greater fullness!<br />
         B.) Although, I do find it interesting and educational that <a href="http://phillipjohnson.blogspot.com/2006/01/youre-probably-cessationist-too.html">Phil Johnson</a> (for whom I have great respect) begins his discussion at this point (specifically that we don’t experience, or <i>shouldn’t</i> claim to experience, the fullness of the spiritual gifts.)</p>
<p>(finally finishing with 14:1) “<span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 153);">Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy.</span>”</p>
<p>I find it interesting that Paul who clearly had all these gifts in great measure, did not encourage the church at Corinth to look for the perfect and then the complete ceasing of gifts, but encouraged them to earnestly desire gifts as a means of loving the body of Christ. By doing this they were “pursuing love” in action by using the grace God provided in the spiritual gifts.</p>
<p>Now for the provisos:</p>
<p>    1) I am not a greek exegete (yet)<br />
2) This is only one passage among many (and only part of Paul’s letter) that deal with spiritual gifts and timing, and is not an exhaustive study.<br />
    3) I am apt to make logical errors.<br />
4) I learned these things today and would like to share them, I am not however the sole holder of truth and spiritual enlightenment on this matter, and am eager to be corrected and set in the right if mistaken.</p>
<p>So please comment!  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(all passages here quoted are the <span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 153);">ESV</span>, emphasis and brackets my own)</p>
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		<title>Finished!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the price paid for sin was finished with Christ&#8217;s death on the cross, and everything in the world goes back to God&#8230; But here I start speaking of something different, of finishing Les Misérables. That French classic, conquered after a month of intense reading (myself being a slow reader), plunged me into the world [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=19&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the price paid for sin was finished with Christ&#8217;s death on the cross, and everything in the world goes back to God&#8230;<br />
But here I start speaking of something different, of finishing Les Misérables. That French classic, conquered after a month of intense reading (myself being a slow reader), plunged me into the world of Jean Valjean in an attempt to build my vocabulary. It did more than that. Here, I would like to share a little of the world the author opened up to me.<br />
As I closed the volume, I found myself in mediation and trembling. The subject matter of the book is the redeeming of human life from evil to good, of benevolence towards the poor, of virtue, and of death. I disagree with the author, Victor Hugo, on his analysis of man and soft-pedaling of sin in places, and on a few of his theological fineries, but I admire the liberty he takes in unbosoming his heart to the reader. How else can a heart or anything else be corrected, except that it is laid open and allowed to circumspection.<br />
I meditate on the reality of death and what will be said of my life at the end; I wonder, though too lightly, in the fear of God who is ever watching. I soberly take in mind that He is watching right now. Do not mistake me on the <em>fear of God</em>. Some dismiss this as simply being awe or reverance. I take this, from my own studies, my own zeal, possibly my own youth and lack of experience, and possibly from a gracious shedding of a truth by God, as being true, yet incomplete, as it lacks the substance of the very word that defines it, namely, FEAR, the synonyms of which are terror, dread, etc.  I will address these shortly, though by no means compose an irrefutable proof.<br />
Hugo brought back the reality that my life will soon, in mist like fashion, dissipate. What will await me on the side of that irreturnable gulf between the living and the dead? No human in history, crossing that chasm, has come back (with exceptions given to a few prophets- Moses and Elijah- and to Christ himself). With each turn of the gears and tick of the clock, the one way passage across the bridge that affords no returns looms nearer. And what stands there?<br />
I AM is there, as the passer is shuttled from the bridge to the foot of a majestic throne, under a gaze that melts the mountains like wax. I think the reflex under that gaze would be described in fear, terror, trembling, or something similar. That is why I say that <em>fear of God</em> is more than simply awe, but more appropriately a trembling of the limbs, a weakness of the bones, a collapse of the body, and fainting.<br />
As thoughts of fear, God, and eternity arise, suddenly the plans on Friday night are not so important, and suddenly the earlier insult carries the weight of a feather, and suddenly I must take into account how I am spending my time, my money, and my words.</p>
<p>And so, all of human history and purpose ties into God and the finished sacrificial act of Jesus Christ. Death and life are to one purpose, &#8220;Fear God and keep his commandments, for that is the WHOLE duty of man.&#8221;<br />
-Ecclesiastes 12:13<br />
And the greatest of God&#8217;s commandments&#8230; To LOVE- God and your neighbor.</p>
<p>Less Miserably,<br />
Larry</p>
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		<title>Gross Error</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow. I read James White&#8217;s post today that mentioned a review of Piper&#8217;s &#8220;Christian Hedonism&#8221; by the periodical The Berean Call. Not knowing much about the publication, I will hold off general commentary, however what they published on Piper&#8217;s theology is at best bushleague scholarship. You can download the January edition of the publication to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=18&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  I read <a href="http://www.aomin.org">James White&#8217;s</a> post today that mentioned a review of <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/library/theological_qa/chr_hedonism/index.html">Piper&#8217;s &#8220;Christian Hedonism&#8221;</a> by the periodical <a>The Berean Call</a>.  Not knowing much about the publication, I will hold off general commentary, however what they published on <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/">Piper&#8217;s theology</a> is at best bushleague scholarship.</p>
<p>You can <a href="http://www.thebereancall.org/Newsletters/Newsletter+PDF+files/2006+PDF/125702.aspx">download</a> the January edition of the publication to read for yourself.</p>
<p>I will admit that my first reaction was to viciously attack the author of the journal for so greatly twisting a few statements (outside of thier context) into a strawman, not to mention a complete ignorance to the central points of Piper&#8217;s worldview.  </p>
<p>But after reading it I&#8217;m saddened by it.  Not that it has swayed me but that someone could be so very wrong headed in the church (and with such great accessibility of this material!!).</p>
<p>This display now gives me pause to consider how I treat other people&#8217;s writing.  More importantly, how do I treat the scriptures?  </p>
<p>-mark</p>
<p>(also, over at <a href="http://Triablogue.blogspot.com">Triablogue</a> <a href="http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2006/01/berean-call-responds-to-john-piper.html">Evan May addresses this topic</a>)</p>
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		<title>Next: Man denies Hanwell?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 07:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading a post at Steve Hays&#8217; blog by an athiest, it seems Chesterton’s arguement may soon be disputed&#8230; “Men deny hell, but not, as yet, Hanwell….[A]ll thoughts and theories were once judged by whether they tended to make a man lose his soul, so for our present purpose all modern thoughts and theories may [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=17&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading a <a href="http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2006/01/secular-enlightenment.html">post</a> at <a href="http://triablogue.blogspot.com">Steve Hays&#8217; blog</a> by an athiest, it seems Chesterton’s arguement may soon be disputed&#8230;</p>
<p>“Men deny hell, but not, as yet, Hanwell….[A]ll thoughts and theories were once judged by whether they tended to make a man lose his soul, so for our present purpose all modern thoughts and theories may be judged by whether they tend to make a man lose his wits.”<br />
[Hanwell is an insane asylum, presumably in the U.K.]</p>
<p>In the post, the professor denies hell, and I can&#8217;t see Hanwell being too far off. Seeing that all conceptions of truth are purported to be solely electro-chemical reactions and moral standards as imbedded effects of &#8220;Darwinian evolution.&#8221;  How else should we discern mental health?  The objective things are now subjective, and I suppose this could all be weaved into some scheme of natural selection.    </p>
<p>It must be time for me to reread “The Suicide of Thought!”</p>
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		<title>In a mirror dimly (II)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The most foundational concept here is the definition of anthropomorphism* itself. This is where I&#8217;ll start, and maybe never get past, since it tells a lot of the story. Consider the definition Caneday proposes: “Because God formed Adam from the “dust of the earth” and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, making him [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=16&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most foundational concept here is the definition of anthropomorphism* itself.  This is where I&#8217;ll start, and maybe never get past, since it tells a lot of the story.  </p>
<p>Consider the definition Caneday proposes:</p>
<p>“Because God formed Adam from the “dust of the earth” and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, making him in his own image and likeness, God makes himself known to his creatures in their likeness, as if he wears both their form and qualities, when in fact they wear his likeness.” (pg. 161)</p>
<p>At first I did not like this definition.  It seemed too literary, too vague, and it includes anthropomorphism (&#8220;God…breathed&#8221;) internally.  </p>
<p>However after dwelling on the concept for a while I enjoy how this definition is centrally biblical.  This is not a ‘high-brow’ $5 word definition, like my vanity would wish to affirm.  Caneday wrote this from the perspective of a narrator straight out of the creation account, and it’s final turn of phrase captures the idea that hit me in all this.</p>
<p>The striking thing is that the subject starts and ends with God.  God is the doer, God is breathing in life, God is the standard, God alone defines.</p>
<p>Caneday specifically did this to contrast a commonly held definition of antrhopomorphism:<br />
“A figure of speech used by writers of Scripture in which human physical characteristics are attributed to God for the sake of illustrating an important point…. Anthropomorphisms essentially help to make an otherwise abstract truth about God more concrete.”(pg. 158, taken from other authors, see footnotes)</p>
<p>I can say with confidence that this is how I <I>used</I> to think of anthropomorphism.  But again, the fundamental shift is from viewing things with man as the standard, to a view with God as the standard.  </p>
<p>This universe is surely and clearly God’s.  God defines the terms and types, and God gives the meaning.</p>
<p>It seems that Calvinism again is the doctrinal basis for understanding these topics.  The humanism of Arminian thought drives us to pervert anthropomorphism until God is just a really wise person, and not really God at all (read open theism).  But God demands that he is the center, and when the center is God, the figurative language communicates through the likeness he wove into our being.</p>
<p>Caneday then pulled back the curtain and informed me that <I>all scripture is anthropomorphic</I>.  Now, viewing things with the “arminian definition” above will cause one to think this statement is nonsense.  But viewing things from Caneday’s definition, it is right on.</p>
<p>Lord willing I’ll get to post again soon, and present some more thoughts on meaning,  anthropomorphism, and types.</p>
<p>-mark</p>
<p>*(It is assumed that we are only talking about anthropomorphism with respect to God here, not nature and animals and stuff.  Caneday discusses this for the purists of terminology.)</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of weeks ago I finished up &#8220;Beyond the Bounds, Open Theism and the Undermining of Biblical Christianity&#8221; (ed. John Piper, Justin Taylor, and Paul Kjoss Helseth). I’ve intended to write a review, but have not made the time. Let me simply say it is a great book; well written, documented, and reasoned. I’ve [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=15&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of weeks ago I finished up &#8220;Beyond the Bounds, Open Theism and the Undermining of Biblical Christianity&#8221; (ed. <a href="http://www.desiringGod.org">John Piper</a>, <a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com">Justin Taylor</a>, and Paul Kjoss Helseth).  I’ve intended to write a review, but have not made the time.  Let me simply say it is a great book; well written, documented, and reasoned.  I’ve enjoyed it thoroughly and learned much.  It has also been an introduction to reformed authors (mostly in the academy) that I had not yet read, but showed up to say hello in the footnotes (which are oh so plentiful).  BUT, <i>this is not a review of the book</i>.</p>
<p>I’ve gone back over my favorite chapter (it was hard to pick, but I did), and hope to post some of the points that stuck out to me, as well as a few thoughts on those points.  The chapter was &#8220;Veiled Glory:  God’s Self-Revelation in Human Likeness – A Biblical Theology of God’s Anthropomorphic Self-Disclosure&#8221; by A.B. Caneday.</p>
<p>Now I have never read Caneday prior to this chapter, but his handling of this subject gave me more than one &#8220;ah-ha&#8221; moment in its course.  It also crystallized some thoughts that I could never isolate and articulate.  Perhaps this subject is old hat for some, but this text has been very new and fresh and enjoyable.</p>
<p>So forthcoming are some posts on A.B. Caneday’s discussion of God’s self-revelation and it&#8217;s nature as anthropomorphism*.</p>
<p>-mark</p>
<p>*equally forthcoming are definitions, so don&#8217;t get too riled up yet!</p>
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		<title>Unconditional Love</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You might have been expecting a posting on the noble Biblicist doctrine of Unconditional Election. Instead, I would like to take a look at another doctrine called unconditional love. What brings me to mention this is that in my experience, the use of the word love has largely been misconstrued. What I see and hear, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=14&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might have been expecting a posting on the noble Biblicist doctrine of Unconditional Election. Instead, I would like to take a look at another doctrine called unconditional love.<br />
What brings me to mention this is that in my experience, the use of the word love has largely been misconstrued. What I see and hear, when mention is made of unconditional love, is more of something else, namely, unconditional acceptance. Unconditional love says that your love for a person is not motivated by their performance. Unconditional acceptance says that whatever you do, you must be embraced, greeted warmly, spoken well of, and anything short of that is not loving. Unconditional acceptance says that if someone reproves your behavior, exhorts you, or admonishes you, and that their doing so sits uncomfortably with you or is disagreeable to you, that they are not loving you and that they are judging you. In short, they are not obeying the words, &#8220;Judge not, lest ye be judged.&#8221;<br />
Now I oppose the doctrine of unconditional acceptance, but embrace that (or what I know of it) of unconditional love. Now, looking at Jesus, the one who loves, let me draw my examples. First, Jesus was not afraid to use abrasive language against the religious leaders and lawyers of his day. &#8220;You hypocrites&#8230;&#8221; He said also to send the message to the king, &#8220;You go and tell that fox&#8230;&#8221; John the Baptist warned some of those coming out to see him, &#8220;You brood of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come.&#8221; Yet God tells us that no man born of a woman was greater than John the Baptist- certainly one like this would have love. Jesus certainly loved people, but one time when he was asked about blood being mingled with sacrifices, he bluntly stated, &#8220;Do you think those on whom the tower of Siloam fell were any worse offenders&#8230; No, but unless you repent, you will likewise perish.&#8221;<br />
Why do I bring these verses and these points up. Part of love is NOT accepting everything that someone does. A friend who was rather cynical one night remarked to me seriously that he, &#8220;could just step out in front of a car, and if they hit [him], then [he] would go to heaven sooner.&#8221; I was told by one that he could be seeking &#8220;special&#8221; friends and a gay lifestyle, and could still worship God with a true (or was it pure?) heart and get to heaven. When, after numerous times, patience, examples from Scripture, he would not listen to Scripture, I told him I could not accept the lifestyle he was pursuing. He lamented that his other friends accepted it, and why couldn&#8217;t I. Later he accused me of not being a real friend. A girl once told me someone she knew could just kill themself and get to heaven faster. The words that come out of a person&#8217;s mouth reveal what is in their heart, and where the ship of their soul is sailing. The fruit of a person&#8217;s mouth is a pouring out of their soul- if it is good, it will be wholesome and pure; if it is bad, it will be corruption, rot, and filth.<br />
So we get to love. Part of it is being honest- certain actions, desires, and followings are not an example of a heart that is seeking God. Certain behaviors, though present in the sinful flesh, are not to be tolerated in a regenerated person. A pastor or confessing follower of Jesus is not to be engaging in sex out of marriage, giving themselves to drunkness, stealing, or other forms of behavior. Christians should be cautious of those who confess to be Christians and are unrepentant in engaging in this lifestyle. To simply accept their actions and associate with them is weak, appeasing, and ultimately unloving. Warn them, show them, explain to them, love them, but if they will not listen, I would recommend not to associate with them.</p>
<p>I would like to come back to this and put in more Scripture references, flush out my thoughts more thoroughly, and accept my own reproof where words have been too harsh or inaccurate. If I knew now what was wrong I would changs it, but I end with the words of a hero of mine, &#8220;To confess that you were wrong yesterday is only to admit that you are wiser today.&#8221; -Charles Spurgeon</p>
<p>Learning to love,<br />
Resolving to love,<br />
Larry</p>
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		<title>The L in TULIP</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Limited Atonement This is the most contested of the five points. I will try to explain it simply, and I will refer you to the references at the bottom for more information. Limited atonement states that the death of Christ did not pay for (atone) for the sins of the whole world. It paid for [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=13&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<div align="left">This is the most contested of the five points. I will try to explain it simply, and I will refer you to the <a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=19732348#References_and_Additional_Readings">references</a> at the bottom for more information. Limited atonement states that the death of Christ did not pay for (atone) for the sins of the whole world. It paid for the sins of those in Christ. An immediate objection that arises may be John 3:16, &#8220;For God so loved the WORLD that he gave his only Son&#8230;&#8221;<br />
For God 1) loved the world that 2) He gave his only Son. We could say that God loved the world so that he gave his Son to die for the world.<br />
But the second part of the verse is critical in understanding, &#8220;&#8230; that WHOever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.&#8221; So, those who believe in Christ will not perish but have eternal life. On the contrary, it is implied that those who do not believe in the Son will perish and not have eternal life. So the giving up of God&#8217;s Son does not pay for the sins of the whole world. It blots out the sins of those who identify themselves in Christ. If Christ&#8217;s death pays for the sins of the whole world, then it would not just be the believers who would be forgiven. His death would also pay for the sin of unbelief among those who rejected him. But then everyone would be saved, which is obviously not the case. The reference of weeping and gnashing of teeth, and those whose names are not written in the Book of Life are too numerous to reference. Those who do not come to Christ are still in their sins. Only by believing and confessing Christ does one have eternal life (Romans 10:9). Or as God himself said, &#8220;Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them: do you think that they were worse offenders than all the others who lived in Jerusalem? No, I tell you; but UNLESS you repent, you will all likewise perish&#8221; (Luke 13:5). Unbelief and an unrepentant heart are both two sins which Christ did not die for.<br />
When Paul speaks to the Colossian believers he tells them that, &#8220;&#8230; he has now reconciled in his body of flesh by his death, in order to present you holy and blameless and above reproach before him&#8221; (Colossians 1:21). Before they were drawn to Christ, they were hostile and alien to God. Their sins were not reconciled at that point in time.</div>
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<div align="center"><a name="References_and_Additional_Readings" title="References_and_Additional_Readings"></a>References and Additional Readings</div>
<div align="left">Ephesians 1-2, Romans 8:28-30, Romans 9, John 15:16, John 6:65, II Timothy 2:25-26, Hebrews 6:2-3, Acts 13:48<br />
<a href="http://www.tenth.org/fileadmin/files_for_download/New_Member_Articles/5pointsofcalvinism.pdf">http://www.tenth.org/fileadmin/files_for_download/New_Member_Articles/5pointsofcalvinism.pdf</a> &#8211; The most basic breakdown of Calvinism and Arminianism I have seen. Each point summarized in 3 sentences or less. No scripture to explain points though.<br />
<a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/library/topics/doctrines_grace/tulip.html">http://www.desiringgod.org/library/topics/doctrines_grace/tulip.html</a> &#8211; A free online resource explaining the five points of Calvinism followed by testimonies of those who have loved and embraced these doctrines.<br />
Chosen by God by R.C. Sproul- A simple book explaining and defining the terms<br />
The Institutes of the Christian Religion by John Calvin- This can be read in its entirety for free at <a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/calvin/institutes.htm">http://www.ccel.org/ccel/calvin/institutes.htm</a> Chapters 21-24 explicitly address election and predestination. You won&#8217;t find the TULIP acronym in Calvin&#8217;s work, that was added after as a way of summarizing and understanding the points.</div>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2005 07:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently the topic of the sinfulness of humanity has arisen in conversation with friends. Strangely this delights me. What kind of sick misanthrope am I, talking about a topic like this, with glee even? Well, I haven&#8217;t always embraced this T in TULIP. But when I began reading the Bible in college the fundamental change [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=12&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently the topic of the sinfulness of humanity has arisen in conversation with friends. Strangely this delights me. What kind of sick misanthrope am I, talking about a topic like this, with glee even?</p>
<p>Well, I haven&#8217;t always embraced this T in TULIP. But when I began reading the Bible in college the fundamental change in my heart began, and I was really convinced that I am a sinner.</p>
<p>Romans 1:10-12:<br />
“as it is written: None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” (ESV)</p>
<p>It is a blessed thing when the Holy Spirit moves on the Word, and convicts our hearts of sin, death, and destruction. I think it is at such an hour that the Spirit may enable us to love Christ, bringing us from spiritual death to spiritual life.</p>
<p>I write this as probably the simpliest introduction to Total Depravity, our utter sinfulness before God as self-loving, God hating, debtors. This coincidentally is how I was introduced to the TULIP, and so naturally I think it a fine way of being introduced to reformed thought.</p>
<p>I hope this post can act as a talking point for biblical theology. Perhaps Larry would be willing to post on the L of TULIP during the process. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Two brief suggestions I joyously make on this topic are from <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?http://www.desiringgod.org/library/sermons/85/010685.html">John Piper</a> and <a href="http://web.ukonline.co.uk/d.haslam/mccheyne/Man%20regarded%20but%20God%20despised.htm#Top"> R.M. McCheyne</a>.</p>
<p>-Mark</p>
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		<title>Lyrics too?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 09:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lyrics get me too. Inevitably, the songs I really find run through my head, I end up being able, at a later date, to trace back to Scripture; usually this is ends up being a verse, or a paraphrase of a set of verses. Sometimes songs run through my head that I find to be [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=11&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyrics get me too.<br />
Inevitably, the songs I really find run through my head, I end up being able, at a later date, to trace back to Scripture; usually this is ends up being a verse, or a paraphrase of a set of verses.<br />
Sometimes songs run through my head that I find to be exactly counter to Scripture. One popular contemporary piece has the words, &#8220;My sacrifice is not what You can give, but what I alone can give to you&#8230; A thankful heart I give, a prayerful prayer I pray, a wild dance I dance before You.&#8221; It has a very catchy beat, but stands in contrast to Romans 11:35-36 &#8220;Who has given a gift to [God] that he might be repaid? For FROM him and THROUGH him and TO him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen.&#8221; Amen Paul. Or again we see the theme echoed in Job 35:7, &#8220;If you are righteous, what do you give to [God]? Or what does he receive from your hand?&#8221; and Job 41:11 &#8220;Who has first given to me, that I should repay him? Whatever is under the whole heaven is mine.&#8221; Amen Job. We cannot give God something he has already given us. If we give God a thankful heart, it is because he has allowed us to be thankful. God has loosed feet to dance, lips to sing, and hands to be raised and celebrate. Imagine the mother after giving birth to a son exclaiming, &#8220;this joy is not what You can give, God, but only what I can give back to You,&#8221; all the while not considering that God gave her the child and the spontaneous emotion of delight in it.<br />
I also love the tune Amazing Love, yet find myself silent during the chorus, &#8220;in all I do, I honor you.&#8221; I know no Christian of whom that is true.<br />
This bugs me because it is wrong. Now, don&#8217;t get me wrong, I like to have an elevated feeling when I worship, but not at the cost of contradicting scripture. If there is no root of truth in the praises we sing and in the emotions we feel, the branch of woship we seek will dry up, wither, and die.<br />
There are thousands and more great songs, and God is calling for himself worshippers in spirit and truth. These worshippers will come and go along with skewed worship tunes, with little harm, but further rejoicing in God. This short discourse just reminds that there are tares sewn in among the wheat of worship songs, and wolves disguised as sheep within the flock. The words look right and feel right, but if believed, they dangerously contradict the Scripture and can prop the door of deceit open for the entry of further untruths. Let us seek out those doors and bar them shut with the Light of Truth by reading, praying, memorizing, and studying the Bible and by trembling before God.</p>
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		<title>Evolution (Cont.)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 09:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen to your words Mark. It seems anymore in the scientific community, if you do not bow the knee at the altar of Darwin, you are called a myriad of names, the nicer of which is &#8220;not a real scientist.&#8221; In fact, a biology professor started talking about fact one class, and distinguished it from [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=10&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to your words Mark.</p>
<p>It seems anymore in the scientific community, if you do not bow the knee at the altar of Darwin, you are called a myriad of names, the nicer of which is &#8220;not a real scientist.&#8221; In fact, a biology professor started talking about fact one class, and distinguished it from faith in that faith is, &#8220;Believing in something that there is absolutely no evidence for.&#8221; So when a community, with entrenched indoctrinators like that is asked to give a ruling, there is not a good chance to get an objective view.<br />
And furthermore, I cannot think of any advantages given from this ruling. If the community deceives itself it is not being watched and held accountable to a higher standard, it is free to experiment with life, human life more and more, and to abuse all matters of gifts, such as sex. Just think about it, if you are watched on a surveilance camera, you are not likely to steal, but if all cameras are taken away, and the police are decomissioned, what holds you back?<br />
The ideas for evolution are not new as many claim, but they date to 300 years before the birth of Christ and were postulated by Epicurus. Epicurus taught, &#8220;when we are, death is not; and when death is, we are not.&#8221; According to this philosophy, the universe is just a random gathering of atoms, that in themselves have a will. &#8220;We are going forward?&#8221; I ask. &#8220;Are we really not going backwards?&#8221; Now don&#8217;t get me wrong, but to dredge up ideas from 3oo years before Christ (about 2300 years ago) gives us a more primitive system than the way put in place by Jesus (about 2000 years ago).<br />
To paraphrase John Owen&#8217;s first book, &#8220;Of Arminianism: Being a Discovery of the Old Pelagian Idol Free Will with the New Goddess Contingency&#8230;&#8221; I would like to suggest my own, &#8220;Of Darwinism: Being a Resurrection of the Ancient Epicurean Carnality, Disguised and Advancing Itself Under the Veil of Postmodernism, Believing in the Exercise of All Freedoms and Opinions, excepting that those freedoms do not disagree or threaten their position, as they further the agenda of demons, devils, and the dragon.&#8221;</p>
<p>Disappointed with this ruling and the scientific community, but not suprised,<br />
Larry</p>
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		<title>They still grope for the designer&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We probably all read the headlines…(here and here) the Circuit Court bans ID in Dover, PA. So I began reading the document. Sadly, the case while reasoned in places, seems bent on error. Through the panel of &#8216;expert witnesses&#8217;, the court established by the rule of scientific naturalism that Intelligent Design Theory is not science, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=9&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We probably all read the headlines…(<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/12/20/intelligent.design/index.html">here</a> and <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4547734.stm">here</a>) the Circuit Court bans ID in Dover, PA.</p>
<p>So I began reading the <a href="http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/images/12/20/kitzmiller.pdf">document</a>. Sadly, the case while reasoned in places, seems bent on error. Through the panel of &#8216;expert witnesses&#8217;, the court established by the rule of scientific naturalism that Intelligent Design Theory is not science, as it requires supernatural causation. Furthermore, the court went on to say that ID can not be science as it is not accepted in the scientific community, published in peer-reviewed journals, nor is it researchable or testable. In a community dominated by die-hard Darwinians, <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5007508">it is no wonder that ID can’t get a fair hearing, research money, or air-time in peer-reviewed journals.</a></p>
<p>I’m sure Baal worshipers had reasoned arguments to support their Baal worship, and astrologers had arguments for worshiping stars.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there will be a flood of comment on this in the blogosphere.<br />
Saddened by the day’s events.<br />
-mark</p>
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		<title>Lyrics always get me…</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 00:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you ever been in the grocery store, and as you are carefully selecting your green and red peppers, you realize without trying, that you know every word of the song playing overhead? Or perhaps you’ve been in the barber’s chair and you say to the sheerer “You know Oz never did give nothing to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=8&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever been in the grocery store, and as you are carefully selecting your green and red peppers, you realize without trying, that you know every word of the song playing overhead?  </p>
<p>Or perhaps you’ve been in the barber’s chair and you say to the sheerer “You know Oz never did give nothing to the Tin-man, that he didn’t, didn’t already have.”  At this point, the scissors come to a complete halt, and you get a blank stare through the mirror, and you look back, as if to say ‘what’s the problem?’</p>
<p>Well, even if you can’t relate to being lyric-centric, you can suppose what it’s like.  And for whatever reason, I always find myself focusing on the words.  Sure I enjoy a good guitar lick or the booming praise of the pipe organ, but it’s the lyrics that go straight to my heart, and head.</p>
<p>So I was reminded this week of a popular “praise and worship” song that I sang often in a college ministry I was a part of, the bridge goes something like this:</p>
<p><I> “I’ll never know how much it cost, to see my sin upon that cross.” </I></p>
<p>Something about that line has always made me uncomfortable.  Most of the tune however, is great; for example: </p>
<p><I>“King of all days, oh so highly exalted, glorious in heaven above.  Beauty that made this heart adore you, all for love’s sake became poor.”</I></p>
<p>But there is that bridge that I just can’t get over.  Something about eternal ignorance when it comes to our worship of God doesn’t sit right with me.  My thoughts then turn to one of my favorite poems turned hymns.</p>
<p>Consider Robert Murray McCheyne’s handling of the subject when we praise The King in “I am debtor”:</p>
<p><I>“When I stand before the throne,<br />
Dressed in beauty not my own,<br />
When I see thee as thou art,<br />
Love thee with unsinning heart,<br />
Then, Lord, shall I fully know -<br />
Not till then &#8211; how much I owe.<br />
” </I></p>
<p>The contrast is interesting.  </p>
<p>The first song in a desire to praise God attempts to say; “so great is this salvation, and so high it’s price, I can never know and understand it, I will never be able to fully take it in.” I think this is admirable, as it seeks to elevate God by saying ‘as high as the heavens are above the earth, so are my <I>affections</I> above your <I>heart’s capacity to know them.’ </I></p>
<p>So what is wrong with this?  </p>
<p>While I do admit that these things are true of us now, will they be true of us in heaven?  Will we actually “never know the cost?”</p>
<p>McCheyne takes the other route.  Instead of magnifying God’s deeds and character by setting it above us, McCheyne magnifies them <I>further</I> by pointing to our receiving it in full through God’s work of glorification.</p>
<p>This is perhaps more evident from <a href="http://web.ukonline.co.uk/d.haslam/mccheyne/zion/I%20AM%20DEBTOR.htm">the entirety of the poem</a>.  Taking us through differing experiences after death, we see “how much we owe”, and only then can comprehend this power in God’s grace.</p>
<p>So McCheyne points to our knowing God as we are fully known, in heaven as the work of the glorification of the saints as the point where we will “know how much we owe” from Christ’s work on the cross.  I think this presents God as more glorious as (IMO) it points to heaven.</p>
<p>So where does this leave us now?  Humming while hunting cantaloupe?  No, I’d like to close with McCheyne again, pointing us back to the cross, this time for <I>earthly</I> purposes…</p>
<p><I>Chosen not for good in me,<br />
Wakened up from wrath to flee,<br />
Hidden in the Saviour&#8217;s side,<br />
By the Spirit sanctified,<br />
Teach me, Lord, on earth to show,<br />
By my love, how much I owe.<br />
</I></p>
<p>Amen.</p>
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		<title>Slavery Query</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few queries, scattered thoughts, and ruminations. I am still flushing out some thoughts on this, and please, let&#8217;s bring some more Scripture- LIGHT- into this. My question: Does the freeing of the slaves from Egypt parallel the freeing of men and women from demonic opression / spiritual bondage? What I mean is this: the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=7&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few queries, scattered thoughts, and ruminations. I am still flushing out some thoughts on this, and please, let&#8217;s bring some more Scripture- LIGHT- into this.</p>
<p>My question: Does the freeing of the slaves from Egypt parallel the freeing of men and women from demonic opression / spiritual bondage?</p>
<p>What I mean is this: the slaves (many of them) were freed from the ruthless hand of Pharoh in Egypt, but did not rejoice, but rather complained and fashioned idols for themselves in the desert. In the same way- that is to say in a miraculous way- some are delivered from physical abnormalities, and from irrational psychological fears.<br />
I think there is a parallel between the freeing of the Isrealites and the freeing from spiritual oppression, and that it should make us very careful and humble in how we live. The freeing from oppression would be a sign that God has been merciful, and not necessarily a sign that God is in favor of (has counted righteous) the person freed. Jesus was not pleased with the lepers who did not thank him, but they were still healed.<br />
And now, let me give a few examples to further my queries: could not a man freed from an irrational vertigo still die from a great fall, leaning too comfortably over a large precipice; could not someone freed from a demonic fear of the opposite sex not respect the boundaries God has established between men and women and fall into great perversion in that area; and could not someone with a paralyzing spirit in public speaking have that removed, and then shortly after use their words, their mouth, their tongue in the advocation of all degrees of blasphemies, evil, and hatred?<br />
The conclusion I draw from these scattered thoughts is that when God opens a door or shatters a chain, we should not be too proud, but rather humbly thank and acknowledge his work, pleading that He would guide us in His path and in His ways (Jer 7:23, Deut 6:5-9, Ps 25:10-11). I think these examples may show that though one demon may go, seven more worse than the first will return if Christ is not the focus and Lord. The sinners and the wicked experience miracles, but do they see or know God?</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading a great post over at Doulogos on relativism, that topic got me thinking&#8230; We commonly use terms such as &#8220;works salvation&#8220;, &#8220;sincerity gospel&#8220;, and even &#8220;Mormon Missionary&#8220;. Now I know the authors of posts, articles, papers, and books that use these terms generally do not intend to say that one can achieve salvation [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=6&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading a great post over at <a href="http://doulogos.blogspot.com">Doulogos</a> on <a href="http://doulogos.blogspot.com/2005/12/follow-your-heart.html">relativism</a>, that topic got me thinking&#8230;</p>
<p>We commonly use terms such as &#8220;works <i>salvation</i>&#8220;, &#8220;sincerity <i>gospel</i>&#8220;, and even &#8220;Mormon <i>Missionary</i>&#8220;.  Now I know the authors of posts, articles, papers, and books that use these terms generally do not intend to say that one can achieve salvation by their own merit through works, or by being sincere in some belief (whatever the substance of it may be) that person will be &#8216;saved&#8217;, or a mormon young man on his 2 year rotation is proclaiming the Gospel of God in Christ.  (And before I go any further please understand that Daniel is speaking <b>against</b> heresy here, not for it in masked language.)</p>
<p>Should we propose a new lexicon for these things?  Would we not be better served in our thinking by saying &#8220;works righteousness <i>heresy</i>&#8220;, and &#8220;sincerity <i>belief system</i>&#8220;, and &#8220;mormon <i>false teacher</i>?&#8221; Am I going &#8220;fundy&#8221; here?  Well, I hope not.   </p>
<p>I recognize there is serious value in approaching these ideas from the &#8220;works salvation&#8221; terminology.  For the more polemical, it aids the argument by pointing to the fallacious quite clearly.</p>
<p>There is also the (potentially more controversial) usage of terms in contextualization.  I find thinking in this context exposes some of my own bias toward certain usage (e.g. &#8220;muslim believer&#8221; or &#8220;american christian&#8221; or &#8220;nominal christian&#8221;) depending on the audience (believer/non-believer, reformed/unreformed, etc.).</p>
<p>All of this pondering leaves me thinking about how exactly we choose to be very honest, loving, and forthright in our speech.  Whether through oral or written means, how do we speak the truth in love with our religious terminology?</p>
<p>I think we should not tolerate the disastrous relativism of viewing truth and love as a dichotomy in expression.  I know it has often occurred to me that I could (or did) &#8220;water down&#8221; some of that salty speech I intend to share with an unbelieving friend, or an arminean coworker.  How does that serve to point them to Christ when I skirt the issue, thereby honoring some earthly esteem over the truth of my God?!  Let us repent (myself especially) of being diplomatic with men to avoid speaking the truth of Christ.</p>
<p>I think Daniel uses the terms well in his post to get his point across.  Yet I still have some reluctance to the common usage.  Perhaps it is best expressed in this example:</p>
<p><i>Do I really think saying &#8220;works salvation&#8221; to refer to a heresy points believers astray, NO.  Do I really think saying someone is a &#8220;mormon missionary&#8221; is offensive and misleading, YES.</i>    </p>
<p>This draws out the fact that the key is the <i>christian</i> usage of the word that I think is correct, and that other meanings for it confuse the truth of the <i>christian meaning</i>. So some may say as long as <i>missionary</i> is preceded by mormon, we haven&#8217;t lost the meaning of missionary to mormon twisting.  And that objection is right!  Christians are not the only ones with access to words and can not appropriate words for thier own usage to the neglect of everyone else.  </p>
<p>Ultimately missionary means messenger, and as much as I&#8217;d like to make it mean <i>christian messenger</i> because it often does mean christian messenger, I can&#8217;t claim it always does.  </p>
<p>A friend helped me see this today, that the christianese words are not holy unto themselves.  It seemed my gut reaction was to cannonize the terms.  Perhaps a better way is to use the common grounds of the terms to point to The Gospel.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;so, you&#8217;re a missionary&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Does the Bible command us to be happy, or just joyful?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Happiness and Joy&#8221; or &#8220;More Proof for Christian Hedonism&#8221; Introduction Definitions Scriptures Testimonies and historical examples INTRODUCTION During the summer, I asked a question to Bible study. “If this were true: that the Perfect, loving, all-powerful, holy God stepped down from heaven and suffered abuse mocking, beating, and death at the hands of men to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&amp;blog=403948&amp;post=5&amp;subd=5pointers&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Happiness and Joy&#8221; or &#8220;More Proof for Christian Hedonism&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=19732348#INTRODUCTION">Introduction</a><br />
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=19732348#DEFINITIONS">Definitions</a><br />
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=19732348#SCRIPTURES">Scriptures</a><br />
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/post-create.g?blogID=19732348#TESTIMONIES">Testimonies and historical examples</a></p>
<p><a name="INTRODUCTION" title="INTRODUCTION"></a>INTRODUCTION<br />
During the summer, I asked a question to Bible study.<br />
“If this were true: that the Perfect, loving, all-powerful, holy God stepped down from heaven and suffered abuse mocking, beating, and death at the hands of men to blot out their sins and give them eternal joy with God, what would those who profess to follow God look like?&#8221;</p>
<p>Here were some of the many answers that I got:<br />
1) They would be sincere and true<br />
2) Without deceit. They would give everything for the kingdom and its cause<br />
3) They could be anyone, look like anything<br />
4) They would be in awe<br />
5) Joyful, happy<br />
6) Grateful<br />
7) Once would have been mockers, sinners<br />
8) Open to learn<br />
9) Considerate<br />
10) Know they had been made new<br />
11) Sorrowful for those who were lost. Sorrowful that they put the one who loved them so much through so much pain<br />
12) Have an eagerness and urgency in life<br />
13) Set apart<br />
14) Quick to forgive<br />
15) Reverent</p>
<p>Before I continue with this, I have another story to tell shortly. I received an email that said, &#8220;Don&#8217;t ask God for patience or he will give you something to be patient about!&#8221; It did not take me five seconds to taste that and see it was not good. I promptly wrote back that I believed that argument came from The Pit and was no thing from God. Two examples came to my head to verify that taste. The first one I noted was that Paul specifically prays for the believers at Colossae that they would have patience [and endurance with JOY]. Additionally, patience was noted specifically as a fruit of the Spirit along with love, self-control, JOY, faithfulness, and others. Saying not to seek patience because you might have to demonstrate having it would be like saying, &#8220;Don&#8217;t ask God for love, or he will give you something to be loving about; or don&#8217;t ask God for joy, or he will give you something to be JOYful about; or don&#8217;t ask God for self-control, or he will give you something to be self-controlled about.&#8221; Will God give a rock to his children who ask for a loaf of bread (Matthew 7:9)? If someone warns not to seek patience because God would give something to be patient about, did they press on to receive that patience?<br />
Now let&#8217;s move back to the example from Bible study. What was obvious here is often hidden and even blotted out in deeper discussions. The person for whom Christ died would have an abundance of emotions towards God that would affect every other area of their life. Look at #5: they would be full of joy, they would be happy! Look at #6, they would be grateful. They would have the heartfelt emotion of gratitude, and not the dry lip service of, “thank you.”<br />
Now I come to my contention, and let’s see if it is Biblical. Taking James 1:2, “Consider it all JOY brothers when facing trials of many kinds,” many make the immediate disclaimer: Watch out, this is NOT happiness!<br />
Going further than that, a speaker I respect in Navigators said, “God NEVER promises you happiness in the Bible. Look. You won’t find it. He promises joy…” I showed him a number of verses after his talk, and he confessed he should not have said it the way he said it. I will show you more verses and let you make the decision.</p>
<p><a name="DEFINITIONS" title="DEFINITIONS"></a>DEFINITIONS<br />
But first let’s look at how joy and happiness are defined in the dictionary:<br />
HAPPINESS &#8211; Feeling pleasure / feeling or showing pleasure, contentment, or JOY.<br />
Ex- When he heard he was going to the baseball game downtown, Jimmy was full of happiness.<br />
JOY &#8211; Great HAPPINESS / feelings of great HAPPINESS or pleasure, especially of an elevated or spiritual kind 2) something that brings happiness.<br />
Ex- After rehabbing her knee during the off season and working harder than ever before, Jane jumped for joy when she won the tennis championship.</p>
<p>From just the dictionary, I ask, how do you say that joy can be had without happiness? The objection may be that happiness is cheap and joy is deep. But happiness is still contained in joy. It’s like saying you can get to the bottom of the ocean, without first getting through the upper layers of water, as if you are somehow teleported into the depths.</p>
<p><a name="SCRIPTURES" title="SCRIPTURES"></a>SCRIPTURES<br />
I’ll start first by saying we are commanded to be happy in God, and that furthermore God threatens terrible things on us if we will not be happy in him, “Because you did not serve the LORD your God with JOYFULNESS and GLADNESS of heart, because of the abundance of all things, therefore you will serve your enemies whom he will send against you, in hunger and thirst, in nakedness, and lacking everything…” (Deuteronomy 28:47-48).<br />
Now let’s look at James 1:2 again:<br />
“Count it all JOY, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds.”<br />
At first glance, it seems logical and easy to say that these trials are not to result in a happy condition. After all, they are trials and will result in discomfort and most likely emotional and possibly physical injury. Fine, then we would expect someone going through these trials to be in a more intellectual, emotion negating frame.<br />
But what we find throughout the Bible is exactly the opposite!<br />
The believers mentioned in the book of Hebrews faced especially sharp persecution. The author writes to them that,<br />
After you were enlightened, you endured a hard struggle with sufferings, sometimes being publicly exposed to reproach and affliction, and sometimes being partners with those so treated. For you had compassion on those in prison, and you JOYFULLY accepted the plundering of your property, since you knew that you yourselves had a better possession and an abiding one (Hebrews 10:32-34).<br />
But were they really joyful (taking pleasure or happiness in this) as they had their possessions looted, bodies afflicted, and friends incarcerated? Didn’t they miss their nice house, hunger at the lack of food, and take pains at their friends going through prison, public reproach, and physical affliction?<br />
Let’s look also at how the disciples reacted to public reproach for the name of Jesus and then turn to the words of Jesus himself before returning to these questions.<br />
When the apostles in the books of Acts were apprehended by the Jewish authorities, they were beaten and then charged not to speak in the name of Jesus. Then, God tells us, “they left the presence of the council, REJOICING that they were counted worthy to suffer dishonor for the name” (Acts 5:41).<br />
What does that have to do with happiness? Let’s look at the dictionary again:<br />
REJOICE-Be happy, to feel very happy or show great happiness about something. Make somebody happy. Fill somebody with happiness.<br />
But why were they so happy that it spilled over to rejoicing? To answer that, let us go to two different teachings from Jesus.<br />
In the Beatitudes of Luke, Jesus says that the poor are blessed, and those who are hungry and who weep and who are hated because of the name of Jesus. He goes on to say that on the day of persecution, “Rejoice in that day, and leap for JOY, for behold, your reward is great in heaven; for so their fathers did to the prophets” (Luke 6:23).<br />
If the joy experienced by the disciples were merely an intellectual head knowledge, and a neutral mood not necessarily an emotion, it would not result in the physical fallout of rejoicing and leaping. It might be conducive to a state of hope during and after the trials where they have some distant belief in deliverance, but not an actual pleasure. But is this the joy that gets them to leaping?<br />
And let’s look at what Jesus promises before tying this back together:<br />
In his last hours with his disciples before the crucifixion, he told them they would be sorrowful. But he said their sorrow would be turned to joy. Notice an extreme negative emotion is used to contrast the state he tells them they will have. Then, furthering his analogy, he compares their sorrow to that of a woman about to give birth. She has sorrow because she knows her hour has come. But then she will forget the sorrow and have joy when her child comes into the world. What woman is not filled with the emotions of happiness, joy, and contentment when she finally brings her child into the world? Jesus continues and says, “So also you have sorrow now, but I will see you again and your hearts will rejoice, and no one will take your joy from you” (John 16:22).<br />
So when the believers are beat in Hebrews, they realize that they have a possession ten thousand times better than any of the worldly possession! They realize that the kingdom of God within them cannot be beat out. The kingdom of God within the disciples cannot be threatened out. Their joy, their great pleasure in seeing God, their great great great happiness in Jesus cannot be driven out by anything. The loss of their physical possessions solidifies the presence and promised inheritance of the kingdom of God.</p>
<p>In Matthew 13:44 Jesus tells a parable about what it is like to find the kingdom of heaven, “The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and covered up. Then in his JOY he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field.” They have taken great pleasure in finding God’s kingdom.</p>
<p>So the disciples and the Christians in the book of Hebrews took pleasure in God during their trials. Are there other ways the Bible speaks about this?<br />
Psalm 37:4 “DELIGHT yourself in the LORD and he will give you the desires of your heart.”<br />
Matthew 25: 21, 23 says to enter into the joy of your master.<br />
Joy is a fruit of the Spirit- Galatians 5:22-23. These are not dry, static, intellectual traits, divorced from the heart, but God glorifying emotions that separate Christians from the world by their deep-rooted obedience to God and endurance through all kinds of struggles. God can miraculously bear this fruit when the world says that the circumstances make it impossible to be patient, to love, to be joyful, kind, faithful, etc. Why? It’s a miracle and his good pleasure to do so.<br />
Luke 10:17- Disciples joyful evil spirits cast out. Jesus told them not to be joyful about that, but rather that their names were written in the Book of Life.<br />
Luke 15:7- Jesus tells us there is more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than 99 who have no need of repentance.<br />
Luke 19:6- Zaccheus came down joyfully from the tree joyfully. And why not? He had just been addressed by and told to host Jesus!<br />
Luke 1:14 “You will have joy and gladness and rejoice at [John’s] birth.”<br />
Philippians 2:17- “Even if I am to be poured out as a drink offering upon the sacrificial offering of your faith, I am glad and rejoice with you all.”</p>
<p>This argument so far leaves out the very real aspect of discipline in Hebrews 12:11 and elsewhere regarding God&#8217;s discipline as not being pleasant / joyful. In short, God shows his displeasure in something his children do by disciplining them. They do not experience joy at having grieved God, but rather a sorrow. God does it for our good that we might share in the holiness of God and the joy contained therein. God disciplines us like a surgeon amputating a gangrenous limb. The patient with his leg removed is not happy, but in pain. His leg, that which was so often of so much use, is now gone and the place it came from is throbbing. The surgeon just saved him from the infection, but the pain is much more real and close than the comfort of having his life saved. The discipline or pain now may be such that he does not even want the life he was given.<br />
And this is just scratching the surface. I would encourage you to investigate this further in prayer. Investigate it in the Bible and look at the way the words are used. Read C.S. Lewis The Weight of Glory, Jonathan Edwards “Miscellanies” (a 500-600 level work. Not easy to read), John Piper Desiring God, Sam Storms One Thing: Developing a Passion for the Beauty of God.</p>
<p><a name="TESTIMONIES" title="TESTIMONIES"></a>TESTIMONIES<br />
Fine. Happiness and joy can be flushed out from different places in the Bible. But is this just some new fad, or have Christians throughout the last 2000 years sought after and entered into this happiness in God?<br />
The great saint of the early church said, &#8220;If I were to ask you why you have believed in Christ, why you have become Christians, every man will answer truly, &#8216;For the sake of happiness.&#8217;&#8221;<br />
-Augustine as quoted by John Piper in Desiring God</p>
<p>“All men seek happiness. This is without exception. Whatever different means they employ, they all tend to this end. The cause of some going to war, and of others avoiding it, is the same desire in both, attended with different views. The will never takes the least step but to this object. This is the motive of every action of every man, even of those who hang themselves.”<br />
-Blaise Pascal as quoted by John Piper in Desiring God</p>
<p>I expressed some of these thoughts on happiness vs joy to Charlene Hoskins a year ago, and she, looking back after being almost killed and driven from her home with her family overseas wrote:<br />
Which brings me to your thoughts on happiness &#8212; !!!!!! I wasriveted, challenged, and amused, all at once. You&#8217;re so right. Happiness is a subset of joy, as in a Venn diagram with joy being a large circle and happiness being contained within it, entirely surrounded by it. If my joy is full (Jn. 16:24), then how could I be unhappy?? Oddly enough, even in very trying circumstances, such as when we fled Lebanon on a Greek cargo ship, at night, there were moments of happiness shot through the whole trip, because, underlying our sorrow at leaving (I&#8217;ll never forget passing Palestinian gunboats and seeing Beirut burning) was an unshakeable HOPE that God had the whole thing in the palm of His loving hand. That hope gave much peace, and so I was released from runaway worry and was able to actually enjoy the &#8216;cruise.&#8217; Some of the happy moments I clearly remember were: the Greek sailors completely enjoying holding and hugging our kids (Matt was 5, Maria was 3); thebeautiful sky and sea (it was July); walking on the pure white sand ofCyprus, and everything was quiet and peaceful, no guns. Of course, we both know what people *mean* when they say &#8216;God doesn&#8217;t promise happiness&#8217; &#8212; the worldly kind of happiness, the shallow kind when we get our own way. But I think you&#8217;re reacting to the idea that God promises a kind of insipid joy, a &#8216;joy&#8217; that comes from having done our duty, a tight-lipped kind of joy. I say, is that joy???!!</p>
<p>-Charlene Hoskins</p>
<p>“There is northing dreary or dreadful about [the Christian life.] It is meant to be continually joyful… We are called to a settled happiness in the Lord whose joy is our strength.”<br />
-Amy Carmichael as quoted by Elisabeth Elliot in A Chance to Die</p>
<p>“Yet the Christian life is not one of gloom, but of ever increasing joy in the Lord.”<br />
-Dietrich Bonhoeffer from The Cost of Discipleship. Bonhoeffer knew suffering. He built up the underground church in Nazi Germany, spoke against Hitler, and aided his Jewish friends. He was ultimately captured and hung by the Nazi’s for his political dissension.</p>
<p>“I wanted to be happy. Joy, satisfaction, contentment, call it what you will. If you have your own little category of JOY is what Christians have and HAPPINESS is what the world has, you can scrap that when you come to the Bible. The Bible is indiscriminate in its use of pleasure language. It is lavish in all of them, and none of them is chosen above the other.”<br />
-John Piper</p>
<p>“In some sense the most benevolent, generous person in the world seeks his own happiness in doing good to others, because he places his happiness in their good. His mind is so enlarged as to take them, as it were, into himself. Thus when they are happy, he feels it; he partakes with them, and is happy in their happiness. This is so far from being inconsistent with the freeness of beneficence, that, on the contrary, free benevolence and kindness consists in it.”<br />
-Jonathan Edwards as quoted by John Piper in Desiring God</p>
<p>&#8220;God is glorified not only by His glory&#8217;s being seen, but by its being rejoiced in. When those that see it delight in it, God is more glorified than if they only see it&#8230; He that testifies his idea of God&#8217;s glory [doesn't] glorify God so much as he that testifies also his approbation of it and his DELIGHT in it.&#8221;<br />
-Jonathan Edwards as quoted by John Piper in Desiring God</p>
<p>John Newton, the man who wrote Amazing Grace, had a great way of looking at this. He told a story to point out what Christian have in Jesus.<br />
&#8220;Suppose a man was going to New York to take possession of a large estate, and his [carriage] should break down a mile before he got to the city, which obliged him to walk the rest of the way; what a fool we should think him, if we saw him ringing his hands, and blubbering out all the remaining mile, &#8216;My [carriage] is broken! My [carriage] is broken!&#8217;&#8221;<br />
-(Richard Cecil, Memoirs of the Rev. John Newton, in The Works of the Rev. John Newton, Vol. 1 (Edinburgh: The Banner of Truth Trust, 1985), p. 108.) as quoted by John Piper http://www.desiringgod.org/library/sermons/02/042102.html</p>
<p>“… Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.”<br />
-C.S. Lewis in The Weight of Glory</p>
<p>So next time you are put through a trial and testing, remember, what is refining for but gold? And what is gold for but the King? Remember, a pearl is only formed by pain (that of a small creature); the beatiful object comes from a grain of sand. Remember, diamonds come from coal, and are made such by an immensity of heat and the crushing force of the earth. Rejoice in the beauty of God&#8217;s holiness and God&#8217;s being set apart from sin, lies, and deceit. Remember that God&#8217;s holiness is the pure love, pure joy, pure peace, and true happiness.</p>
<p>By God&#8217;s Grace I write,<br />
T<br />
U<br />
Larry<br />
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P</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has long been held that most people will readily agree with four points of Calvinism, but they dispute the fifth. What is this point that they disagree on?<br />
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