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		<title>Wolrdviews Refuted- Enter Materialism</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/wolrdviews-refuted-enter-materialism/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a brief article, Dr. Al Mohler of Southern Baptist Seminary addresses the more prevalent worldview of the natural sciences, materialism:
http://www.albertmohler.com/blog_read.php?id=1122
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>In a brief article, Dr. Al Mohler of Southern Baptist Seminary addresses the more prevalent worldview of the natural sciences, materialism:</p>
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<p>For a quick review, a worldview is a set of lenses which one looks through to understand the world around him.  It is a person&#8217;s understanding of how matter works, what is the nature of the supernatural, what is at the core of human existence, what happens after death, etc.</p>
<p>Materialism is the view that attempts to explain everything by purely natural phenomenons and does away with the spiritual- ie: man is just matter- salts and minerals- and will return to salts and minerals upon death.  This view shaped the policies of Soviet Russia, and has been addressed prayerfully from the Christian perspective in Richard Wurmbrand&#8217;s <em><a href="https://www.vombooks.com/qry/qe_store.taf?_function=detail&amp;_peid=479&amp;_id=A345142999&amp;_code=P&amp;_nc=ee8adadc7e95464161db7d6ca7cf458a">Tortured for Christ</a></em>. </p>
<p> <a href="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/c25c096497f1e3ffce0caaef_09062007_135744.jpg" title="c25c096497f1e3ffce0caaef_09062007_135744.jpg"><img src="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/c25c096497f1e3ffce0caaef_09062007_135744.thumbnail.jpg" alt="c25c096497f1e3ffce0caaef_09062007_135744.jpg" /></a></p>
<p>One powerful refutation of materialism comes in the book where a simple factory worker stands up against a lecturer stating that man is only salts and minerals and will return to such on death.  The worker asks to speak after the lecture.  Permission is granted and he stands up, throws his chair down and stares at it.  Then he walks up to the lecturer and strikes him in the face.  The lecturer becomes irate and demands his arrest.  When questioned about his actions, the worker explains, &#8220;When I threw the chair down, it did nothing, it was just matter.  When I struck you, you became angry.  Man is more than matter, we are spiritual beings!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>The Patient has the Problem</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two years ago I was performing my EMT clinicals.  One of the EMTs gave me a word I haven&#8217;t forgotten.  When we waited in the break area between calls, I skimmed a medical book and commented that the hardest part of the job for me would be to see the more grotesque injuries.  I&#8217;m ok [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=271&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Two years ago I was performing my EMT clinicals.  One of the EMTs gave me a word I haven&#8217;t forgotten.  When we waited in the break area between calls, I skimmed a medical book and commented that the hardest part of the job for me would be to see the more grotesque injuries.  I&#8217;m ok seeing my own blood, but wince at someone else&#8217;s injuries- avulsions, contusions, open fractures, lacerations, etc.  The EMT answered me, but I didn&#8217;t think he&#8217;d heard.  He said, &#8220;The patient is the one with the problem.&#8221; </p>
<p>The pateint has the trauma.  You treat them.  You are not the one with the overdose or trauma at the end of the day.  It is someone else.</p>
<p>The praticality comes when applying this to theology.  As I&#8217;ve put my ear to the culture and listened to doctrines, more influenced by the spirit of the age than the Spirit of Christ, I&#8217;ve come away feeling the maladies.  Denial of Hell, diplomacy on the virgin birth, denial on the penal substitutionary atonement, mitigation sin, mitigation of the deity of Christ, etc.  I&#8217;ve come away feeling queasy myself.  Then I remembered, at the end of the day, the patient has the problem.  I remembered, you don&#8217;t defend a lion, you turn it loose; you loose the cure for all maladies of theological traumas, the Word of God, and let it speak itself.  God&#8217;s breath cuts and pierces and treats these maladies better than any surgeon&#8217;s scalpel.  I don&#8217;t need to address every scoffer that comes around, but I need to be ready to turn the scalpel loose on those who would here and be quickened under its power.</p>
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		<title>The Curse is Cast</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A quick glance at the news today brought this headline to sight (warning- offensive content). 
&#8220;Call-Girl Centerfold? Penthouse magazine wants woman at center of Eliot Spitzer call-girl scandal&#8221;
Shameless exhibition is too trite of a phrase to describe this situation, but nothing more fitting is coming to mind.  It&#8217;s sad that the sin that will change the life [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=270&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p align="left">A quick glance at the news today brought this headline to sight (<strong>warning- </strong>offensive content). </p>
<p>&#8220;<a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337662,00.html">Call-Girl Centerfold?</a> Penthouse magazine wants woman at center of Eliot Spitzer call-girl scandal&#8221;</p>
<p>Shameless exhibition is too trite of a phrase to describe this situation, but nothing more fitting is coming to mind.  It&#8217;s sad that the sin that will change the life of three daughters and a wife is now being exalted and spread, to dissolve more marriages and marr more lives.  What good came from it the first time?  Why is it still being spread?  Paul&#8217;s answer two thousand years ago is timely.  We have forgotten God and been given over to his gifts, which we have in turn exalted and made our Gods.  Like the plague that fell on Israelite exiles who were given meat until they could eat no more because of their complaining, we are in a land diseased with its lusting.  It&#8217;s no longer secret, it&#8217;s no longer shameful.  Listen to Paul&#8217;s words:</p>
<p align="center"><em>Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.</em></p>
<p align="center">Romans 1:24-25</p>
<p align="left">Paul&#8217;s solution to our problem:</p>
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<div align="left"> <em>if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved</em> (Rom 10:9-10).</div>
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<div align="left"><em>So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord!</em> (Rom 10:21-25a). </div>
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		<title>Good Analysis, Poor Recommendation</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An article in the local paper caught my attention this morning.  According to a federal study, 1/4 teen girls between 14-19 has contracted a sexually transmitted disease (STD).    The article does a good job explaining the problem and crunching the numbers.  But the recommendation by &#8220;U.S. health officials&#8221; is more telling.  The recommendation?   &#8221;Better screening, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=268&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>An <a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/T/TEEN_STDS?SITE=INLAF&amp;SECTION=HEALTH&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT">article</a> in the local paper caught my attention this morning.  According to a federal study, 1/4 teen girls between 14-19 has contracted a sexually transmitted disease (STD).    The article does a good job explaining the problem and crunching the numbers.  But the recommendation by &#8220;U.S. health officials&#8221; is more telling.  The recommendation?   &#8221;Better screening, vaccination and prevention.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sex has become an area of life like life itself.  Rather than asking why it is there, we jump in and indulge.  Science asks some questions, but is too satisfied with the superficial answers and misses the question. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear that human suffering is bad.  It&#8217;s clear that STDs are a form of suffering and are bad for us.  Like science&#8217;s bent on evolution, it observes and takes note of species mutations, then sidesteps the profound inquiry of the child, &#8220;What came first, the chicken or the egg?&#8221;  Science traces a line back in time past the chicken, past the egg, and then fading into obscurity as time and matter and chance simmer into primordial goop.  It misses again on why human languages differ, sidestepping the basics of Babel and appealing to ape dialectics.</p>
<p align="center"><a href="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/chicken-egg.jpg" title="chicken-egg.jpg"><img src="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/chicken-egg.thumbnail.jpg" alt="chicken-egg.jpg" /></a> </p>
<p>But maybe in the end STDs aren&#8217;t a result of inadequate screening or vaccination.  Maybe if we taught and saw and felt that long ago we turned away from God to create our lives and ended up under his curse, we might get further than if we put a screening facility in every high school and vaccinated every child.  Maybe we&#8217;d identify the result of depression and disease and a thousand other anomalies resulting from plundering the prize of sex from the trophy house of marriage to the squalor of the slums.  Maybe, just maybe, if we taught and ackowledged that sex outside of marriage should be opposed as the desire to murder and rape and steal, we might find a backbone to fight it and reduce the devestations of STDs and abortions.  There is to sex the creative force that tells us we were ourselves created and are ourselves accountable for our creating.  And Jesus is the creator of us and sex and the one to heal and clean us from any sexual sin, if only we would acknowledge to him our sin and struggles- that we can never vaccinate or screen or prevent enough- having made such a pollution of his gifts, and ask for him to teach us who he is and who we are and to follow his prescribed limits for his gifts. </p>
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		<title>He Always Trusted</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;All who see me mock me; they make mouths at me; they wag their heads; &#8216;he trusts in the LORD; let him deliver him; let him rescue him, for he delights in him!&#8217;
&#8220;Yet you are he who took me from the womb; you made me trust you at my mother&#8217;s breasts,&#8221;  (Ps 22:7-9).
As Easter nears, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=267&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>&#8220;All who see me mock me; they make mouths at me; they wag their heads; <em>&#8216;he trusts in the LORD; let him deliver him; let him rescue him, for he delights in him!&#8217;</em></p>
<p>&#8220;Yet you are he who took me from the womb; you made me trust you at my mother&#8217;s breasts,&#8221;  (Ps 22:7-9).</p>
<p>As Easter nears, remember that Jesus <em>always</em> trusted God during the incarnation.  From his mother&#8217;s womb, from his mother&#8217;s breasts.   And remember, &#8217;no deceit was found in his mouth&#8217;&#8230; ever. </p>
<p>Jesus&#8217;s trusting of God allowed God&#8217;s will to be accomplished through his life.  God&#8217;s will was his death. </p>
<p>Sometimes if circumstances seem unjust, unfair, overwhelming- not as a cause of disobedience but a result of obedience - it may be God&#8217;s hand moving to bloom the fruit of fruition. </p>
<p>William Cowper, a sickly saint acquainted with a suicidal darkness noted on the mysterious movements of God, &#8221;His purposes will ripen fast, unfolding every hour.  The bud may have a bitter taste, but sweet will be the flower.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t lose hope of the divine flower of God bringing his work to completion in your life.</p>
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		<title>Complementarian Quotes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are some snippets that have helped me see the value and state of gender roles and created differences between men and women. 
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The state of men in many places:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Here are some snippets that have helped me see the value and state of gender roles and created differences between men and women. </font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Enjoy:</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p><b><font face="Times New Roman">The state of men in many places:</font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"><em>In Seattle, the young men are, generally, pathetic. They are unlikely to go to church, get married, have children, or do much of anything else that smacks of being responsible. But they are known to be highly skilled at smoking pot, masturbating, playing video games, playing air guitar, free-loading, and having sex with their significant others&#8230; If there is any hope for a kingdom culture to be built in Seattle, getting the young men to undergo a complete cranial-rectal extraction is priority number one.</em></font><a name="_ftnref1" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn1"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[1]</span></span></span></span></a></p>
<p><b><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></b><b><font face="Times New Roman">Leadership</font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0 1in;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">P.T. Forsyth says that hierarchy- the placing of one above another-not was meant not for privilege, prerogative, favoritism, or dominion, but for leadership.<span>  </span>And leadership means service, sacrifice, help, uplifting, redemption, and a cross.<span>  </span>Leadership is not meant to exploit, but to lift; not to exterminate, but to rescue; not to rend, but redeem; not to devour, but to carry; not for primacy, but for priority.<span>  </span>It means, in the last analysis, obedience, service, even death, for the sake of others.</font><a name="_ftnref2" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn2"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[2]</span></span></span></span></a></p>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><b><font face="Times New Roman">Can women still influence men for Christ in areas of deep passion and conviction?</font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0 1in;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">It is obvious that we cannot and should not prohibit women from influencing men.<span>  </span>For example, prayer is certainly a God-appointed means women should use to get men to where God wants them to be.<span>  </span>Praying women exert far more power in this world than all political leaders put together.<span>  </span>This kind of powerful influence is compounded immensely when one considers the degree to which the world is shaped and guided by the effects of how men and women are formed by their mothers.<span>  </span>This influence is perhaps more effective than all the leadership of men put together</font><a name="_ftnref3" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn3"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[3]</span></span></span></span></a></p>
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<p style="margin:0 1in;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Women, then, have engaged in significant ministries, even if those ministries were unofficial.<span>  </span>One thinks of Abigail in I Samuel 25.<span>  </span>Abigail was not a prophetess and had no other official ministry that we know of.<span>  </span>Nevertheless, her humble and gentle advice to David persuaded him not to kill Nabal.<span>  </span>How many unrecorded events there must be of women persuading men, humbly and gently, to pursue a more righteous course!<span>  </span>What a good model this story is for traditionalists who think being a leader means they must always know the truth and that their opinion is always right.<span>  </span>David was certainly the leader in this account, but his humility is evident in that he listened to Abigail and was persuaded.<span>  </span>For women, Abigail is a model of gentle and humble persuasion.<span>  </span>There was no stridency or imperiousness about her manner.<span>  </span>She was winsome, yet bold.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0 1in;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"><span>            </span>The unofficial ministries of women, therefore, are of great importance, and some men, by desiring leadership for its status and power as the Gentiles do (Mark 10:42ff.), have contributed to the idea that these ministries are insignificant.<span>  </span>Such a secular concept of ministry has done great damage in Christ’s church.</font><a name="_ftnref4" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn4"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[4]</span></span></span></span></a></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">- pg 210</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p>
<p style="margin:0 1in 0 0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">There are so many ministries today in which a woman can advance the cause of Christ and righteousness!<span>  </span>I will list a few here so that one can get some idea of the wide scope available: engaging in personal witnessing and joining campus organizations committed to spreading the gospel, ministering to the sick and elderly, fighting against abortion, fighting against pornography, helping with literacy, writing to government leaders to support the cause of righteousness, helping with disabled, aiding the poor, ministering in prisons, counseling and praying with the troubled and confused, supporting missionaries and the church financially, visiting newcomers to the church, extending hospitality to the lonely, using artistic gifts by ministering in music, the visual arts, drama, and theater, helping in youth ministry, etc.</font><a name="_ftnref5" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn5"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[5]</span></span></span></span></a></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn1" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref1"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[1]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Mark Driscoll, Radical Reformission</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn2" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref2"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[2]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Elisabeth Elliot.<span>  </span>The Mark of a Man.<span>  </span>pg 134.</font></p>
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<div><a name="_ftn3" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref3"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[3]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2"><font face="Times New Roman"> Pg 61, John Piper.<span>  </span><i>What is the Difference?<span>  </span>Manhood and Womanhood Defined According to the Bible</i></font></font></div>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn4" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref4"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[4]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Thomas Schreiner.<span>  </span>Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood.<span>  </span>ed. John Piper and Wayne Grudem.<span>  </span>Pg 210</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><a name="_ftn5" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref5"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[5]</span></span></span></span></a><font face="Times New Roman"> Thomas Schreiner.<span>  </span>Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood.<span>  </span>ed. John Piper and Wayne Grudem.<span>  </span>Pg 223</font></p>
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		<title>The Dr.&#8217;s Prescription</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I stumbled upon this remedy for treating depression a couple years ago from &#8220;The Dr.&#8221; (Martyn Lloyd-Jones), and it has done my soul well.  May it do the same for you:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I stumbled upon this remedy for treating depression a couple years ago from &#8220;The Dr.&#8221; (Martyn Lloyd-Jones), and it has done my soul well.  May it do the same for you:</p>
<p><em>Have you realized that most of your unhappiness in life is due to the fact thyat you are listening to yourself instead of talking to yourself?  Take those thoughts that come to you the moment you wake up in the morning.  You have not originated them but they are talking to you, they bring back the problems of yesterday, etc.  Somebody is talking.  Who is talking to you?  Your self is talking to you.  Now this man&#8217;s treatment [in Psalm 42] was this: instead of allowing this self to talk to him, he starts talking to himself.  &#8220;Why art thou cast down, O my soul?&#8221; he asks.  His soul has been depressing him, crushing him.  So he stands up and says: &#8220;Self, listen for a moment, I will speak to you.&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>Invitation to the Classics- The Holy War</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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The city of Mansoul is visited by Diabolus (Satan) and Incredulous (Unbelief) in this classic.  With Innocence and Resistance destroyed by the enemies of Mansoul, the city soon is taken captive through the Eye Gate and Ear Gate.
Lord Will be Will takes charge as Reason and Understanding are deposed and imprisoned.
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<p align="left">The city of Mansoul is visited by Diabolus (Satan) and Incredulous (Unbelief) in this classic.  With Innocence and Resistance destroyed by the enemies of Mansoul, the city soon is taken captive through the Eye Gate and Ear Gate.</p>
<p align="left">Lord Will be Will takes charge as Reason and Understanding are deposed and imprisoned.</p>
<p align="left">This is the stage in John Bunyan&#8217;s <em>Holy War.</em>  An allegory depicting the story of stories- the creation of man, his exile from Eden, and God&#8217;s ensuing, pursuing love to deliver him from the corruption of his rebellion even as evil is leavened throgh the flesh of man.  With sobering scences and comical characters- the diabolianians, once identified within the city, crucified atop the city gates in full view of Diabolus in the vein of Colossians 3 &#8220;mortify your members&#8221; (KJV) &#8221;put to death whatever is earthly inside of you&#8221; or of Mr. Godly Fear and Mr. Carnal Delight- it can be explained to children and doubles as a primer on spiritual warfare. </p>
<p align="left">The story being told in terms like this is one of the best ways to awaken a knowledge to the truth and a sense of urgency.  As Bunyan commented elsewhere,<em> Praying in the Spirit,</em> one of the best ways to teach children [or anyone] to pray isn&#8217;t giving them some creed or scripted prayer, but to tell them, &#8220;of damnation and of salvation&#8230; of how to avoid the one and enjoy the other&#8230;&#8221;  This manner of teaching, he says, will be the quickest way to elicit hearty groans flowing from their hearts and chests, to teach them to <em>pray in the Spirit, </em>and to deliver them from the hypocrisy of those who &#8220;honor God with their lips while their hearts are far from him.&#8221; </p>
<p align="left">Before picking up the latest &#8220;bestseller&#8221; think about what are some of the best sayers of the truth.  Will that book on the New York Time&#8217;s list persist as a wealth of wisdom and warning in 100 years, or will it crumble away within a generation awaiting the next fad?  Take a step back in time and see that as we hit the big themes, &#8220;there is nothing new under the sun.&#8221; </p>
<p align="left">When it comes time to read, Joel R. Beeke says in <em>Feed My Sheep</em>, ask yourself whether or not that book will increase your love for God, help you to conquer sin, or if your time could be better spent reading another book.  For me, this book has been instrumental in appreciating the spiritual war in the heavenlies all around-seeing the enemy of soul&#8217;s tempting and entreating entrance at each of the five sesnes-, in awakening an urgency to the battle, equipping with a practicality against it, and in sensing the love and joy of God for his people.</p>
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		<title>As different as night and day?  [Part II]</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Where we left off last&#8230; Do complementarians hate women?  Are they just modern mysogynysts?</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Find out now!</font> </p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">The Egalitarian view seeks the inclusion of women in all areas of ministry based on the following observations from Scripture: </font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">1) Calling roles or distinctions into question based on gender is wrong and like doing so based on ethnicity (Jew or Greek) or social status (slave or free)</font></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Galatians 3:28- No distinctions in Christ between men and women</font></li>
</ul>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">2) A woman apostle is acknowledged by Paul</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Rom 16:7- Junia, <i>the latino disciple</i></font></li>
</ul>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">3) Women play a prophetic role in the Old Testament (ex: Deborah, Miriam, etc.), and are foretold to prophesy after the Ascension (Acts 2:17-18).</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">4) Women are referred to as “fellow-workers” with Paul, the same way Timothy, Titus, and other male disciples.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">5) Women serve in the office of deacon in the New Testament (Rom 16:1)</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">The complementaria argument views men and women as being designed to fit together not only biologically in marriage, but also emotionally and in various roles.:</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Humans are created male and female as nature is night and day, sea and land.<span>  </span></font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Both are: </font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Equally valuable</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Equally fallen</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Equally needing of a savior</font></li>
</ul>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Men are designed to initiate and lead</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Women are designed to nurture, receive, and affirm</font></p>
<p><b><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></b><b><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></b><b><font face="Times New Roman">Questions for Discussion:</font></b></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Is the egalitarian interpretation of Galatians 3:28 the best one?</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">What else is suggested by the immediate context of Galatians 3:28?</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">How do these observations relate to Paul’s instruction for church governance? </font></li>
</ul>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">On the other side:</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Do complementarians realize we are in the 21<sup>st</sup> century?</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Doesn’t the complementarian view just continue to exploit, demean, and repress women?</font></li>
</ul>
<p><b><font face="Times New Roman">Brief Response to points 1-5 of Egalitarian position</font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">1) Context in Gal 3 is not addressing / defining what it means to be a man or woman.<span>  </span>This does not, for example, mean that no distinction should be made between men and women, say in marriage (ie: “No longer male no female” does not apply to marriage covenant and does not throw out Paul’s advice to husbands and wives in Eph 5, it does not mean since there is no longer male nor female, that marriage can now apply to a man and a man or a woman and a woman).</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Elsewhere (Titus 2, I Timothy 2, etc.) Paul lays out clear distinctions for structure of church.<span>  </span></font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Gal 3:28 in context is referring to equal fallenness, need of savior, and value in God’s eyes of Jews, Gentiles, slaves, masters, men and women.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">This does not support egalitarian position.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">2) Woman apostle can have several different translations.<span>  </span>Jesus had no woman apostle.<span>  </span>Was his failure to due to cultural / traditional structure and pressure?<span>  </span>If so, why did he heal on a Sabbath, not have his disciples observe washing before eating, feed “crumbs” to a Gentile, etc.?<span>  </span>Was having a woman disciple too controversial for him?<span>  </span><br />
One phrase that is obscure, is not enough to base the egalitarian position on.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">3) Women did play role of prophet and will continue to prophesy.<span>  </span>However, they never were priests or elders in the Old Testament and are forbidden from teaching / usurping power from men in I Timothy 2:12.<span>  </span>It’s unlikely that Paul’s argument against women teaching over men in I Tim 2:12 is only cultural, because he follows it up by appealing to the order in Creation (I Timothy 2:13-14).</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">4) Women are fellow workers and should be treated as such.<span>  </span>This does not mean each worker has the same role.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">5) Women may have been deacons, and were definitely instructed to teach each other and younger women in the faith (Titus 2)</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman">Spiritual gifts: Spiritual gifts are given generously throughout the church (I Cor 12-14), but they are still regulated.<span>  </span>Women are still endowed with spiritual gift of teaching, but that should come in proper context, just as speaking in tongues has a certain context where, when it’s not obeyed, is not building up Christ’s body (I Cor 14:6-25).</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman">Many of the above points were researched and clarified, much more exhaustively by Tom Schreiner in <em>Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood</em>, edited by John Piper and Wayne Grudem.</font></p>
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		<title>As different as night and day?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two different schools of thought on how men and women should relate to each other and what their responsibilities are in the church.  
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p align="left" style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Two different schools of thought on how men and women should relate to each other and what their responsibilities are in the church.<span>  </span></font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"><strong>1) Egalitarian-</strong> There should be no gender distinction in roles of men and women in the function or leadership of the church, to include ordination of women, or in society in general; in marriage the wife and husband not only are created equal as female and male, but there is no biblically-prescribed hierarchy giving the husband any authority over the wife. </font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman"><strong>2) Complementarian-</strong> God has created men and women equal in their essential dignity and human personhood, but different and complementary in function with male headship in the home and in the Church.&#8221;  Men are expected to take spiritual responsibility, often called &#8220;headship,&#8221; for leadership in the home and in the church. Women are restricted from holding the teaching office of the church and from spiritual leadership in the home and in marriage. </font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">I am a complementarian.<span>  </span>I believe that is what the Bible teaches.<span>  </span>I am ok with people disagreeing with me.<span>  </span>I don’t see its teaching as a salvation issue, but I do see it as an issue of healthy doctrine and I would divide from a church with a woman pastor.</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p>
<p align="center" style="text-align:center;margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:16pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">Egalitarian Approach</font></span></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Men and women are each created with authority over nature, Men and women are created inherently equal in their capacities to serve and lead, and negating an office of authority based on gender parallels the horrors of owning slaves and the horrors of racism.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Here are some points and Scriptures egalitarians frame their theology on:</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">1) Calling roles or distinctions into question based on gender is wrong and like doing so based on ethnicity (Jew or Greek) or social status (slave or free)</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Galatians 3:28- No distinctions in Christ between men and women</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Times New Roman">2) A woman is acknowledged by Paul as an apostle</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Rom 16:27- Apostleship given to a woman</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Times New Roman">3) Women play a prophetic role throughout the Bible</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Exod 15:20-21- Miriam is a prophetess and led the assembly of women in song</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">II Kings 22:14-20- Huldah is a prophetess and is consulted by messengers of Josiah</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Judges 4:4-5- Deborah was a prophetess and a judge over men</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Luke 2:36-38- Anna served as a prophetess and spoke to the people of the savior who would redeem Jerusalem</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Acts 2:17-18; Joel 2:28-32- God’s spirit would cause both men and women to prophesy, both men <b>and women</b> to dream dreams</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Times New Roman">4) Women are referred to as “fellow-workers” with Paul</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Romans 16:3- Priscilla referred to a fellow worker in Christ.<span>  </span>The same term is used for Timothy (Romans 16:21), Apollos (I Corinthians 2:9), Titus (II Corinthians 8:23), etc.</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Times New Roman">5) Women serve in the office of deacon in the New Testament</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">I Timothy 3:11 </font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Romans 16:1- Phoebe is referred to as a deacon</font></li>
</ul>
<p><b><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></b><b><font face="Times New Roman">Summary:</font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">To summarize the egalitarian position, positions of authority are now obliterated based on gender as are racial and social positions (Galatians 3:28) in Christ.<span>  </span>Women serve throughout Scripture as prophetesses, are referred to as fellow-workers, serve as deacons in the church, and one was also noted as an apostle.<span>  </span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><b><font face="Times New Roman">NEXT TIME: </font></b></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Is the egalitarian interpretation Galatians 3:28 the best one?</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">What else is suggested by the immediate context of Galatians 3:28?</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">How do these observations relate to Paul’s instruction for church governance? </font></li>
</ul>
<p><b><span style="font-size:16pt;"><font face="Times New Roman"></font></span></b><b><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:16pt;">Complementarian Approach</span></font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Complementarian view starts by looking at created structures in the beginning of Genesis and how they <i>fit together</i> or <i>complement each other</i>:</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Night and day (Gen 1:5)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Sea and sky (Gen 1:6)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Dry land and sea (Gen 1:10)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Sun and stars (Gen 1:16)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Day 6- Men and women (Gen 1:27)</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Times New Roman">Other ideas of <i>complements </i>are:</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Peanut butter and jelly</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Hot fudge brownie and ice cream</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Bert and Ernie</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><b><font face="Times New Roman">Gen 2- <i>God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve</i></font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Gen 2:20- There was not a suitable helper fit for Adam.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Gen 2:18- God said he would make a helper fit for Adam</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Woman comes <i>from </i>man.<span>  </span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Woman <i>fits</i> man</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Man is given responsibility in naming woman</font></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Question: Is the way woman <i>fits </i>man only biological?</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Question: What, if anything, does Adam’s naming of Eve represent?</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Times New Roman">Though both sinned, Adam is called out by God and is identified later in Scripture as the one in whom all sinned (he bears a <i>special </i>responsibility)</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Gen 3:9</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Rom 5:12-15</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><b><font face="Times New Roman">Gen 3- Complementary curses</font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Curses attack strengths of each character</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Gen 3:16- curse on woman- pain in childbearing, desire for husband&#8217;s rule power (manipulation), he shall rule over her, woman will desire to rule over her husband</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Gen 3:17- curse of man- Will work ground in pain, in sweat of face fighting weeds, thorns, etc.</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><b><font face="Times New Roman">Isaiah 3 Woman</font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Women in positions of authority over men is spoken of as being chaotic and an inversion of order</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Isaiah 3:12- Women ruling paralleled to infants in charge of the people</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><b><font face="Times New Roman">Authority and vows</font></b></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Men bear responsibility for their vows before God while women’s vows can be negated by their husbands or fathers</font></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Numbers 30</font></li>
</ul>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Times New Roman">Other issues to look at: Instructions for church governance (qualifications for elders / overseers, headship in marriage- Eph 5)</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><b><font face="Times New Roman">FOR NEXT POST: </font></b></p>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Do complementarians hate women? (No, next question)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">What are the implications of this view / How does this play out in everyday life?</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Is complementarianism really just modern misogyny?</font></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">How are the roles, outlined in the egalitarian view for women of prophetess, apostle, deacon assimilated into the complementarian view?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">Much of the analysis of this is taken from Tom Schriener in <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"><em>Recovering Biblical Manhood and Womanhood</em>.<span>  </span>ed. John Piper and Wayne Grudem.<span>  Thanks for the great work and analysis by the men and women in that book.</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>Clearing the Conscience</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do everything to the glory of God,&#8221; (I Cor 10:31).
At a recent meeting, I saw a mock sketch of the church budget:


30% building fund


20% facilities maintenance


25% missions and community outreach


25% staff salaries


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>&#8220;Whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do everything to the glory of God,&#8221; (I Cor 10:31).</p>
<p>At a recent meeting, I saw a mock sketch of the church budget:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<div>30% building fund</div>
</li>
<li>
<div>20% facilities maintenance</div>
</li>
<li>
<div>25% missions and community outreach</div>
</li>
<li>
<div>25% staff salaries</div>
</li>
</ul>
<p>20% of every offering dollar going to repalce light bulbs and clean toilets and take out garbage?  Could we just run this off of volunteers? </p>
<p>&#8220;Well no,&#8221; the pastor said, &#8220;in my experience that hasn&#8217;t worked.&#8221;</p>
<p>For the gospel to be preached and taught on a regular basis, order and structure is a really valuable thing.  To have gas, electric, phones puts the church in touch with the community and a place for the community to come in and fellowship.</p>
<p>Then it hit me.  Not all of my life is prayer or small groups or Sunday sermons or teaching Bible lessons.  Those are good things, but there are bills to be paid, a house to be maintained, etc.  In everything of life, do it to the glory of God.  It cleared my conscience of the guilt of not spending more time in the Bible when I need to fix a broken appliance or do laundry or do some little things, but those are part of the ~20% of my budget to maintain my life.  Aside from that, there&#8217;s the physical body to be a steward of as &#8220;You are not your own, you were bought for a price,&#8221; and &#8220;Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit?&#8221; </p>
<p>So though I&#8217;m a little slow, I&#8217;m learning and having my conscience cleared to be ok doing some of the more mundane things in life.</p>
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		<title>Reflections on Communion</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/reflections-on-communion/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple years ago, in the book Feed My Sheep, I came across the statement, &#8220;You don&#8217;t get a better Christ in Communion, but sometimes you get Christ better.&#8221;
Tonight at Communion as I was thinking about Jesus and his disciples, I thought soberly about God&#8217;s forgiveness.   Jesus knew what Peter would do, he knew of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=257&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>A couple years ago, in the book Feed My Sheep, I came across the statement, &#8220;You don&#8217;t get a better Christ in Communion, but sometimes you get Christ better.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tonight at Communion as I was thinking about Jesus and his disciples, I thought soberly about God&#8217;s forgiveness.   Jesus knew what Peter would do, he knew of his coming denial, he knew of the abandonment of the rest, the betrayal by Judas, but he still ate with them. </p>
<p>A couple weeks ago, my pastor asked a question for reflection, &#8220;Would God love me if he really knew me?&#8221;</p>
<p>Jesus really knew Peter.  Peter was about to curse and deny him.  But Jesus really loved Peter.  Jesus really loved his disciples.  Jesus really loves his disciples. </p>
<p>Looking at this, can anything, as Paul asked, separate us from the love of God, the past or present, angels or demons, rulers, authorities or anything else in creation?</p>
<p>Run to God with your denial and fear and shame.</p>
<p>He already knows. </p>
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		<title>Simon, Simon</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2008/03/01/simon-simon/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Simon, Simon, Satan has demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail.&#8221; (Luke 22:31-32a). 
Perhaps in this act, by Peter being sifted like wheat, Jesus agreed to the terms of Satan, that the hypocrisy might be filtered from Peter&#8217;s life.  So, by the pulverizing [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=256&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>&#8220;Simon, Simon, Satan has demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail.&#8221; (Luke 22:31-32a). </p>
<p>Perhaps in this act, by Peter being sifted like wheat, Jesus agreed to the terms of Satan, that the hypocrisy might be filtered from Peter&#8217;s life.  So, by the pulverizing and filtering of this man did Jesus purify and use him, ground to a powdery consistency, to spread his kingdom.  So does he rid Paul of grounds for boasting by allowing a demon to torment him and tell the apostle, &#8220;my power is sufficient for you&#8230; my power is perfected in weakness.&#8221; </p>
<p>And so does He take us, with this, that, or another pride or boast, leavened through the life, and purify the heart.  Praying for our faith and holding us sure as the enemy assaults, in some hour of darkness, does he then pull out the leaven from the broken pile of dust that would not be extracted from the whole life.  So does brother James admonish and encourage disciples to &#8220;be joyful when facing trials of many kinds&#8221; and Paul encourage us that, &#8220;suffering ends in hope, filled with the love of God.&#8221;  And it says, &#8220;no discipline at the time seems pleasant, but later it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness,&#8221; because the purifying is humiliating and painful.  But later, when we have a more fair estimation of ourselves, do we thank God and enter into trials with, or at least learn to come from them in hindsight, with joy. </p>
<p>&#8220;Strike the shepherd and the sheep will be scattered,&#8221; Isaiah tells us.  Make it look like God is in a vice and can&#8217;t get escape, as Peter watching his master betrayed, and we are robbed of hope and curse and deny.  But God&#8217;s always was and always is the power and he knows what he is doing.  And his power, even in it&#8217;s foolishness, is wiser than the wisdom of men.  Follow him and let him do the sifting and disciplining, and trust him with what he is doing.  Amen</p>
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		<title>The Practice of the Presence of Doctrine, by Sir Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2008/02/26/the-practice-of-the-presence-of-doctrine-by-sir-lawrence/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over a hundred years ago I heard that Spurgeon said regarding the defense of Scripture, &#8220;You don&#8217;t defend a lion, you turn it loose!&#8221;
You don&#8217;t defend the doctrines of Scripture, passed down from God through angels and miracles and his Son, to men, you turn them loose.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Over a hundred years ago I heard that Spurgeon said regarding the defense of Scripture, &#8220;You don&#8217;t defend a lion, you turn it loose!&#8221;</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t defend the doctrines of Scripture, passed down from God through angels and miracles and his Son, to men, you turn them loose.</p>
<p>The virgin birth is one of the clearest teachings in Scripture.  Listen to the words of God:<br />
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<p><em>Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of the things that have been accomplished among us, just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word have delivered them to us, it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely for some time past, to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, that you may have certainty concerning the things you have been taught.</em></p>
<p><em>&#8230;In the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, <strong>to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph</strong>, of the house of David. And the virgin’s name was Mary. And he came to her and said, &#8220;Greetings, O favored one, the Lord is with you!&#8221; But she was greatly troubled at the saying, and tried to discern what sort of greeting this might be. And the angel said to her, &#8220;<strong>Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son,</strong> and you shall call his name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end.&#8221; </em></p>
<p><em> And Mary said to the angel, <strong>&#8220;How will this be, since I am a virgin?&#8221;</strong></em></p>
<p><em> And the angel answered her, <strong>&#8220;The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy— the Son of God.</strong> And behold, your relative Elizabeth in her old age has also conceived a son, and this is the sixth month with her who was called barren. For <strong>nothing will be impossible with God.&#8221;</strong> And Mary said, &#8220;Behold, I am the servant of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word.&#8221; And the angel departed from her.</em></p>
<p>Luke 1:1-4,26-35</p>
<p><em>Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, <strong>before they came together she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit.</strong> And her husband Joseph, being a just man and unwilling to put her to shame, resolved to divorce her quietly. But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, &#8220;Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for <strong>that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.</strong> She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.&#8221;  All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet:<br />
  &#8220;Behold, <strong>the virgin shall conceive and bear a son,</strong> and they shall call his name Immanuel&#8221; (which means, God with us). When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him: <strong>he took his wife, but knew her not until she had given birth to a son.</strong> And he called his name Jesus.</em></p>
<p>Matthew 1:18-24</p>
<p>A few observations:</p>
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<div>The angel of the Lord visited a virgin</div>
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<div>Mary was assured she would conceive <em>by the power of God</em>. </div>
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<div>Joseph was not yet married to Mary</div>
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<div>Joseph was ready to leave Mary because it appeared she was pregnant in the natural way.</div>
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<div>Jesus, son of God, son of man, came to take away our sins!</div>
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		<title>Why haven&#8217;t I been blogging?</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/11/14/why-havent-i-been-blogging/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, congratulations again to Mark and Michelle on their baby.
Between several jobs (two to three) and not having internet at home, blogging has not been the most accessible tool or relevant use of my time.  That, and I&#8217;ve had to take a step back from the books and theology I love to read and step [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=254&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>First, congratulations again to Mark and Michelle on their baby.</p>
<p>Between several jobs (two to three) and not having internet at home, blogging has not been the most accessible tool or relevant use of my time.  That, and I&#8217;ve had to take a step back from the books and theology I love to read and step into other&#8217;s lives. </p>
<p>Some questions for you to chew on:</p>
<p>What is &#8220;the gospel&#8221;?</p>
<p>What would be the one or two overarching takeaways you would want to instill into a disciplee?</p>
<p>Is the difference between men and women only physiological?</p>
<p>What, if anything, are the differences in roles of men and women in the ministry?</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To my fellow bloggers, here&#8217;s a short apologia for my absence online.
I recently (a month or so ago) left my cushy engineering job and have been working 2 part time gigs locally, while continuing my seminary studies.  I also moved apartments this summer and no longer have internet access at home.   Further, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=253&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>To my fellow bloggers, here&#8217;s a short apologia for my absence online.</p>
<p>I recently (a month or so ago) left my cushy engineering job and have been working 2 part time gigs locally, while continuing my seminary studies.  I also moved apartments this summer and no longer have internet access at home.   Further, my wife is 1 week overdue w/ our first child.</p>
<p>So, somewhere between working two jobs, learning more greek and starting hebrew, and prepping the house for the first child, I have haven&#8217;t found time to write.  I hope you haven&#8217;t been heartbroken without your (bi?) weekly dose of Chesterton.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  But here&#8217;s something that is encouraging that I read for class last night:</p>
<p>E. Earle Ellis in his contribution to <em>Interpreting the New Testament Text</em> (eds. Bock, Fanning), Chapter 23 on Colossians 1:12-20, says the following regarding the corporate and individual visions of redemption in the New Testament:</p>
<p>&#8220;Col. 1:12-14 sets forth the same present eschatology [as other corporately salvific passages in Paul], but does this not, as in Romans 5-8 and in Ephesians 2, in terms of a corporate inclusion of all God&#8217;s chosen ones in Christ&#8217;s death, resurrection, and exaltation in AD 33, but in terms of an individual incorporation into him at one&#8217;s conversion. (footnote to <strong>O&#8217;Brien</strong>, <em>Colossians</em>&#8230;pg. 27)&#8230; In God&#8217;s gracious purpose the individual actualization, although temporally separated, does not exclude the prior corporate reality.  Nor is the prior corporate reality independent of the later individual actualization.  Both are complementary parts of one inseparable whole whose fulfillment is as certain as the character and the word of God himself.&#8221;(pg. 424)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if anybody else will dig this quote, but Ellis&#8217; exposition in <em>Interpreting</em> was 13 pages of dynamite.  If you&#8217;re preaching on Col. 1:12-20, check this chapter out.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Indispensable Basic Truth?  It&#8217;s never God&#8217;s will for us to be sick; He wants every person healed every time</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are a couple quotes that I&#8217;ve read in the past couple of days.  I&#8217;ve briefly addressed one of them at my other blog, but was wondering if any of the faithful here would want to interact with these quotes.
 Here&#8217;s another indispensable basic truth you must know and understand about healing: It&#8217;s never [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=252&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Here are a couple quotes that I&#8217;ve read in the past couple of days.  <a href="http://potc.wordpress.com/2007/08/28/does-god-cause-sickness/" target="_blank">I&#8217;ve briefly addressed one of them at my other blog</a>, but was wondering if any of the faithful here would want to interact with these quotes.</p>
<blockquote><p> Here&#8217;s another indispensable basic truth you must know and understand about healing: It&#8217;s never God&#8217;s will for us to be sick; He wants every person healed every time. That&#8217;s nearly-too-good-to-be-true news, but that&#8217;s the Gospel. Most Christians don&#8217;t know or believe that. They think the Lord makes them sick, or at the very least, He allows Satan to make them sick to either punish or correct them. That kind of thinking will get you killed; it&#8217;s not what the Bible teaches. <a href="http://awmi.net/extra/article/healing_knowledge" target="_blank">Full article here</a></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>If a person really believed that God is the one who put sickness on them because He is trying to work something for good in their life, then they should not go to the doctor or take any medicine. That would be resisting God&#8217;s plans. They should let the sickness run its course and thereby get the full benefit of God&#8217;s correction. Of course, no one advocates that. That is absurd. It is even more absurd to believe that God is the one behind the tragedy.  <a href="http://awmi.net/extra/article/sovereignty_god" target="_blank">Full article here</a></p></blockquote>
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		<title>New Blog</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/08/24/new-blog/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those of you interested I&#8217;ve started a new personal blog.
Even with the new blog, I still plan on blogging here (as the groans come-a-flying).  Lord willing, I would like to post something on here about once a week, maybe more.
Anyways, feel free to stop by my blog and say hi!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>For those of you interested I&#8217;ve started a <a href="http://potc.wordpress.com/" title="Ponderings of The Cross" target="_blank">new personal blog</a>.</p>
<p>Even with the new blog, I still plan on blogging here (as the groans come-a-flying).  Lord willing, I would like to post something on here about once a week, maybe more.</p>
<p>Anyways, feel free to stop by my blog and say hi!</p>
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		<title>ESV Bible Online</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This may be old news for most of you, but I have recently discovered a very handy and useful feature on ESV Bible Online.
Whenever I do an in-depth study of a text I like to read it without headings, chapters, and at time verse numbers.  This makes it easier for me to focus on [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=248&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>This may be old news for most of you, but I have recently discovered a very handy and useful feature on <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/" title="ESV Online" target="_blank">ESV Bible Online</a>.</p>
<p>Whenever I do an in-depth study of a text I like to read it without headings, chapters, and at time verse numbers.  This makes it easier for me to focus on the text and connect the thought flow of the writer.</p>
<p>Before, I would copy the text into a word file and go off and delete all the headings, chapters, etc.  This process, at times, proved cumbersome.  Now, I have discovered that you can do this on-line all by the simple click of a couple buttons.</p>
<p>First click on the options ling at the upper right hand of the page.</p>
<p>.<img src="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/esv-opt.jpg?w=228&#038;h=140" alt="ESV Opt" height="140" width="228" /></p>
<p>Next, it will bring you to an option menu, where you can customize the text that you&#8217;re reading or searching.</p>
<p><img src="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/esv-opt2.jpg" alt="esv-opt2.jpg" /></p>
<p>I have found these options to be very helpful for studying the Word.</p>
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		<title>Idol Talk</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>larry5</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark Driscoll has a short message on idolatry in America.  I&#8217;ve found it encouraging and a place for introspection to be done in my life.  In the video, an Indian woman, beside an altar to a chicken god, blasts America as the land where people build shrines to their sports teams and to their restaurants. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Mark Driscoll has a short message on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCjHm9kzHBg">idolatry in America</a>.  I&#8217;ve found it encouraging and a place for introspection to be done in my life.  In the video, an Indian woman, beside an altar to a chicken god, blasts America as the land where people build shrines to their sports teams and to their restaurants. </p>
<p>Idolatry in my own life- I&#8217;ve always loved football growing up.  I felt God tug on my heart in college and barely watched football and specifically did not watch the Super Bowl in college.  Spending time with Jesus in the Word was better and that has not been taken away.  Many have much better examples and experiences, but I have found Jesus 10,000x better than the biggest sports game of the year.  May we continue to find Jesus better than sports or anything else. </p>
<p>Idolatry to be done away- Driscoll hammers it with the restaurant and food illustrations.  Paul warns in Philippians 3, &#8220;many walk as enemies of the cross of Christ, their God is their belly, their end is destruction, with minds set on earthly things.&#8221;  It is a severe thing to seek first after food.  Where do I cross the lines in living to eat rather than eating to live?  I get up and am lethargic until I start to eat.  May I (and we) seek to eat to the glory of God (I Cor 10:31) with what he&#8217;s given, and not make an idol of food.</p>
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		<title>Deflecting Criticism</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do you deflect criticism and harsh words?  What do you do with the comments you receive, some about yourself some about your beliefs, that come across very bluntly?  
Each of us needs a model to process and deal with criticism.  We need to be able to process that which is true on the one hand while [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=246&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><em>How do you deflect criticism and harsh words?  What do you do with the comments you receive, some about yourself some about your beliefs, that come across very bluntly?  </em></p>
<p>Each of us needs a model to process and deal with criticism.  We need to be able to process that which is true on the one hand while filtering out that which is bad and does not define us.  The Bible&#8217;s words to &#8220;be slow to speak and slow to anger,&#8221; are good to remember in moments of criticism.  There may be a grain of truth or a heap of truth in what we are being told. </p>
<p>In the end, here are a few things to process comments.  First, we should remember that Satan means Accuser and he continually stands by to accuse Christians, BUT his power is gone.  The blood of Jesus, being washed in and refreshing your mind in what it means to be washed in the blood of Jesus means more than just we&#8217;re not condemned, but that we have a right standing with God (Rev 11:12, II Cor 5:21, Rom 8:1).  So if the comment is paralyzing you, plead the power of and refresh your mind on what is the power of Christ&#8217;s blood, repent of unrepented sin, and trust in God to justify you.  Study the Armor of God (Eph 6).  Are you saved from Hell and for Heaven (helmet)?  Are your words and actions girded with truth and integrity (belt)?  Study the rest of the armor!</p>
<p>So that is first.  But keep a few other practical notes in mind when being criticized.  How important is the comment?  Is dismantling something central to your beliefs, or is it rebuking a word of sarcasm, stylistic preference, or something else?  One of the above may have to be reconsidered, one may have to be repented of, and one can be shrugged aside and personal preference.  Next, consider the source- who is providing the criticism?  A close friend will require a much more thorough answer than a stranger off the street. </p>
<p>With these as a few notes, may we be able to press on in heavenly journey and receive, process and throw off those criticisms which prod, pain, and paralyze and follow Christ as ones who have been set free!</p>
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		<title>Senior High Ministry Reflections</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[            Interning with the senior high this summer has made me reflect on one word.  Discipleship.  Jesus made disciples.  He told his disciples to go and make other disciples.  When a man starts to follow Jesus, he is told he should find someone to disciple.  But what does that mean?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p class="MsoNormal"><span>            </span>Interning with the senior high this summer has made me reflect on one word.<span>  </span>Discipleship.<span>  </span>Jesus made disciples.<span>  </span>He told his disciples to go and make other disciples.<span>  </span>When a man starts to follow Jesus, he is told he should find someone to disciple.<span>  </span>But what does that mean?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>            </span>Last year when I tried to lead an 8<sup>th</sup> grade small group, I found the boys were not often interested in what I had to say.<span>  </span>They <em>were</em> interested in kicking sand into a cloud of dust that blocked them from my view, blowing air horns when I talked, and turning their memory verse bookmarks into anything from aeronautical instruments to New Year’s Eve confetti.<span>  </span>How could I break through to them?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>            </span>The answer was easy but challenging.<span>  </span>I needed to step into their lives.<span>  </span>I went to one and then another one of their basketball games.<span>  </span>The tone changed in the small group and they started to listen and interact.<span>  </span>I needed to step into their lives, to see what they were passionate about, and to start to know who they were</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>            </span>That time spilled over into this summer as they have gone into high school.<span>  </span>On a trip back from Colorado one of them asked me, “Larry, can we have small group tonight.”<span>  </span>I knew he was serious and I started to laugh and give thanks as we gathered and they led conversation discussing what changes they wanted to make and what they wanted to apply from experiencing God at camp.<span>        </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>            </span>Since a real faith is a practical faith and impacts those around thus, discipleship has meant leaving church for Bible study and getting something that will brighten someone’s day immediately after study.<span>  </span>It has meant accountability in setting goals- physical, social, and spiritual- each week.<span>  </span>It has meant pressing into the lives of students and seeing if and where there are areas they need to reconcile with a sibling or parent and to exhort them to do that.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>            </span>I could have talked about so much with the senior high ministry, from the garage sale where we raised over $4000, to the trip to Colorado where the power of the worship left several of the boys in tears, to the trip to New Orleans where strangers bought groceries for us in gratitude they had not been forgotten, to the service of students in anything from vacation Bible school to picking up trash at the Taste of Tippecanoe.<span>  </span>But as I review our work with them, discipleship, stepping into their lives, has been a crucial bridge to direct them on the Christian journey.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am in gratitude to David Wells for his concise summary of postmodern epistemology.  Certainty itself is hacked away.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I am in gratitude to David Wells for his concise summary of postmodern epistemology.  Certainty itself is hacked away.</p>
<p>&#8220;The dichotomy which postmodern epistemology wants to force is one between  knowing everything exhaustively or knowing nothing certainly at all.  And since  it would be arrogant in the extreme to claim to know what God alone knows the  only other option, it seems is to accept the fact that our knowledge is so  socially conditioned, so determined by our own inability to escape our own  reality, that we are left with no certain knowledge of reality at all.  This is  the epistemological position accepted by Richard Middleton and Brian Walsh. All  attempts at `getting reality&#8217; right, they say, have proved to be failures and  Christians should concede as much.&#8221;  <em>Above All Earthly Powers</em>, p. 158 (footnote 46)</p>
<p>For encouragement that we can be certain in what we know about God, see I John 2:26-27, &#8220;I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you.  But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you.  But as his anointing teaches you about evreything- and is true and is no lie,  just as it has taught you- abide in him&#8221; and also I John 5:20, &#8220;And we <strong>know</strong> that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that <strong>we may know </strong>him who is true; and <strong>we are in him who is true</strong>, in his Son Jesus Christ.  He is the <strong>true God </strong>and eternal life&#8221; and Luke 1:3-5 &#8220;it seemed good to me&#8230; to write an orderly account for you&#8230; <strong>that you may have certainty</strong> concerning the things you have been taught.&#8221;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Virgin Birth
Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.-Jude 3 One popular Christian author and pastor summarizes the idea of viewing doctrine (teaching) and specifically [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=243&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p align="center"><strong>The Virgin Birth</strong></p>
<p><em><span style="font-family:Arial;">Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you appealing to you to <strong>contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.</strong></span></em><span style="font-family:Arial;">-Jude 3</span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">One popular Christian author and pastor summarizes the idea of viewing doctrine (teaching) and specifically the virgin birth, the following way:</span><em><span style="font-family:Arial;">What if tomorrow someone digs up definitive proof that Jesus had a real, earthly, biological father named Larry, and archeologists find Larry’s tomb and do DNA samples and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the virgin birth was really just a bit of mythologizing the Gospel writers threw in to appeal to the followers of the Mithra and Dionysian religious cults that were hugely popular at the time of Jesus, whose gods had virgin births? </span></em><em><span style="font-family:Arial;">But what if, as you study the origin of the word “virgin” you discover that the word “virgin” in the gospel of Matthew actually comes from the book of Isaiah, and then you find out that in the Hebrew language at that time, the word “virgin” could mean several things. And what if you discover that in the first century being “born of a virgin” also referred to a child whose mother became pregnant the first time she had intercourse? </span></em><em><span style="font-family:Arial;">What if that spring [doctrine] were seriously questioned? Could a person keep on jumping? Could a person still love God? Could you still be a Christian? Is the way of Jesus still the best possible way to live? Or does the whole thing fall apart? </span></em><em><span style="font-family:Verdana;"></span></em><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">This sounds different than what the Bible says:</span><span style="font-family:Arial;">Luke writes a letter to his friend and begins it telling him how time and detail he took to make sure he had his facts right</span></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial;">“Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of the things that have been accomplished among us, just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word have delivered them to us, it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely for some time past, to write an orderly account… that you may have <strong><em>certainty</em></strong> concerning the things you have been taught”<span>  </span>(Luke 1:1-4).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Arial;">Halfway through the chapter, an angel appears to Mary and tells her she will have a child.<span>  </span>Her response?<span>  </span>She says, “How will this be, since I am a virgin?” (Luke 1:34).<span>  </span></span><span style="font-family:Arial;">The angel of GOD responds “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy- <strong><em>the Son of God</em></strong>”<span>  </span>(Luke 1:35).</span><strong><span style="font-family:Arial;">Son of God<em> </em></span></strong><span style="font-family:Arial;">above indicates that Jesus is God’s Son, or God is one of Jesus’s parents (ie: Father).<span>  </span></span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">Jesus’ disciple Matthew also found the virgin birth of Jesus miraculous and important enough to tell us (see Matthew </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">1:18</span><span style="font-family:Arial;">-25).</span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">Isaiah prophesies how Jesus will come into the world hundreds of years before: “behold, the virgin shall conceive…” (Isaiah 7:14).</span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">From the fourth century, the church had a unified statement of truths about God the Christian faith called the Nicene Creed.<span>  </span>This has been endorsed by all different denominations of Christians since.<span>  </span>It has defined who God has revealed himself as- the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.<span>  </span></span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">The virgin birth is both taught clearly in the Bible and upheld historically.<span>  </span>Doing away with it obscures the way God came into this world and lived as a man.<span>  </span>It is not open to negotiation.</span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought it would be fruitful to post some notes from this summer&#8217;s Bible study.  My theme has been Jude 3 and hammering home some of the definitive beliefs of the Christian in this postmodern milieu we find ourselves in.  The old saying goes that wherever the boundaries are established, there will the battle take [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=242&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I thought it would be fruitful to post some notes from this summer&#8217;s Bible study.  My theme has been Jude 3 and hammering home some of the definitive beliefs of the Christian in this postmodern milieu we find ourselves in.  The old saying goes that wherever the boundaries are established, there will the battle take place.  I&#8217;m ready to contend for these:</p>
<p align="center"><strong>The Resurrection</strong></p>
<p><em><span style="font-family:Arial;"></span></em><em><span style="font-family:Arial;">Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you appealing to you to <strong>contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.</strong></span></em><span style="font-family:Arial;">-Jude 3</span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Arial;">In popular Christianity, statements come up like the following:</span><span style="color:#333333;font-family:Arial;">I have friends who I am quite sure are Christians who do not believe in the bodily resurrection…</span><span style="color:#333333;font-family:Arial;">Marcus Borg really does not believe Jesus Christ was bodily raised from the dead. But I know Marcus well: he loves Jesus and believes in him passionately. The philosophical and cultural world he has lived in has made it very, very difficult for him to believe in the bodily resurrection.</span><span style="font-family:Arial;">Borg, mentioned above, has spent decades denying the virgin birth, miracles of Jesus (turning water to wine, walking on water, feeding multitudes, and more), and even that Jesus was God.<span>  </span>These exclude him from orthodox Christianity, but what if we limit the above statement to just the resurrection?<span>  </span>What does the Bible say about it?</span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:Arial;">Although this comes from a popular writer, is it Christian??</span><span style="font-family:Arial;">The Bible tells us:</span><span style="font-family:Arial;">If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that <strong>God rasied him from the dead</strong>, you will be saved.<span>  </span>For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">-Romans 10:9-10</span><span style="font-family:Arial;">Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, <strong><em>if</em></strong><em> </em>you hold fast to the word I preached to you- unless you believed in vain.<span>  </span>For I delivered to you as of <strong>first importance</strong> what I also received: that <strong>Christ died for our sins</strong> in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that <strong>he was raised on the third day </strong>in accordance with the Scriptures</span><span style="font-family:Arial;"><span>            </span>I Corinthians 15:1-4</span><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John all affirm the empty tomb, Jesus’ physical resurrection, and his interactions with the disciples after his death.<span>  </span>In his life he proved his power of nature (calming of storm), over the spiritual realm (casting out of demons), over the physical realm (turning water to wine), over knowledge (knowing all that was done by the Samaritan woman); in his resurrection he proves his power over death itself, the last enemy.<span>  </span></span><em><span style="font-family:Arial;">Death is swallowed up in victory.<span>  </span>O death, where is your victory?<span>  </span>O death, where is your sting –I Corinthians </span></em><em><span style="font-family:Arial;">15:54</span></em><em><span style="font-family:Arial;">-55</span></em><span style="font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-family:Arial;">The take away-</span></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial;">See to it that you are rooted and grounded in Christ.<span>  </span>See to it that no one, ‘takes you captive by human ideas (Colossians 2:6-8).<span>  </span></span></p>
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		<title>Weekly Dose of Chesterton &#8211; Proposed Origin of Religion</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is commonly affirmed, again, that religion grew in a very slow and evolutionary manner;  and even that it grew not from one cause; but from a combination that might be called a coincidence.  Generally speaking, the three chief elements in the combination are, first, the fear of the chief of the tribe&#8230;, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=241&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>It is commonly affirmed, again, that religion grew in a very slow and evolutionary manner;  and even that it grew not from one cause; but from a combination that might be called a coincidence.  Generally speaking, the three chief elements in the combination are, first, the fear of the chief of the tribe&#8230;, second, the phenomena of dreams, and third, the sacrificial associations of the harvest and the resurrection symbolized in the growing corn.  I may remark in passing that it seems to me very doubtful psychology to refer one living and single spirit to three dead and disconnected causes, if they were merely dead and disconnected causes&#8230;Nor could anyone imagine any connection between corn and dreams and an old chief with a spear, unless there was already a common feeling to include them all.  But if there was such a common feeling it could only be the religious feeling; and these things could not be the beginnings of a religious feeling that existed already.  I think anybody&#8217;s common sense will tell him that it is far more likely that this sort of mystical sentiment did exist already; and that in the light of it dreams and kings and corn-fields could appear mystical then, as they can appear mystical now.</p>
<p>G.K. Chesterton from <em>The Everlasting Man</em>, pg. 47.</p>
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		<title>Collaborative 40 Day Fast &#8211; Veterinary Missions</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today is my day in the collaborative 40 Day (Blog) Fast, round 2.  If you&#8217;ve been following the fast, thanks for stopping in.  I&#8217;m touched by the nature of changing the world this way.  What a small thing it is for me to fast and pray for a day, yet collaboratively God [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=240&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Today is my day in the <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/collaborative-40-day-fast/">collaborative 40 Day (Blog) Fast, round 2</a>.  If you&#8217;ve been following the fast, thanks for stopping in.  I&#8217;m touched by the nature of changing the world this way.  What a small thing it is for me to fast and pray for a day, yet collaboratively God may be pleased to use this in sweeping change in the world for his renown.</p>
<p>The ministry that shares the Gospel and cares for physical needs that I&#8217;d like to draw your attention to is the <a href="http://www.cvmusa.org/NETCOMMUNITY/Page.aspx?&amp;pid=183">Christian Veterinary Mission USA</a>.  Now I have never been on a trip with them, or even been to a seminar or conference.  But my father in law is a veterinarian and has made me aware of their work.</p>
<p>The exciting piece is that sustainable healthy living in 3rd world communities can be brought about in part through the foundation of healthy and productive livestock.  In fact, Jared Diamond in his popular <em>Guns, Germs, and Steel</em> argues that the technological and political primacy of Europe during the last several centuries is directly related to available crops and domesticatable livestock being available to that region for the last several thousand years.<br />
A sustained shift out of crippling poverty and famine in the third world through healthier livestock, in Jesus name &#8211; that&#8217;s a group we need to support.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cvmusa.org/NETCOMMUNITY/Page.aspx?&amp;pid=183">CVMUSA</a></p>
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		<title>Read the thoughts of a real life Missionary!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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Want to listen in on the thoughts of a current missionary to one of the world&#8217;s largest unreached people groups?  Now is your chance!  Check out Alan&#8217;s blog here.  Drop him an encouraging line while you&#8217;re at it &#8211; learning Japanese and communicating the Gospel cross-culturally is hard!
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<p>Want to listen in on the thoughts of a current missionary to one of the world&#8217;s largest unreached people groups?  Now is your chance!  Check out Alan&#8217;s blog <a href="http://yagimaster.blogspot.com/">here</a>.  Drop him an encouraging line while you&#8217;re at it &#8211; learning Japanese and communicating the Gospel cross-culturally is hard!</p>
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		<title>Iraqi Security Forces</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are interested in the Iraqi rebuilding/security effort, here&#8217;s a cool article you should read.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>If you are interested in the Iraqi rebuilding/security effort, here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?entry=6554">cool article</a> you should read.</p>
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		<title>Summer of Reading:  Book Recommendations</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Biographies:
Jonathan Edwards: A life, by George M. Marsden is a brilliant biography that goes deep into the life of a theological giant.  One of the many things I liked about this biography was it brings you into the reasons and motives for most of his works.
Classics:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><strong>Biographies:</strong></p>
<p>Jonathan Edwards: A life, by George M. Marsden is a brilliant biography that goes deep into the life of a theological giant.  One of the many things I liked about this biography was it brings you into the reasons and motives for most of his works.</p>
<p><strong>Classics:</strong></p>
<p>Count of Monte Cristo, by Alexander Dumas is an excellent adventure novel.  I usually don&#8217;t like to read books after I&#8217;ve seen the movie (the one that came out several years ago), but this was well worth it.  The movie and the book are nothing alike except for the similar themes of revenge and imprisonment.</p>
<p>Treasure Island, by Robert Louis Stevenson is another adventure novel that was a joy to read.  If you want to find out where the name &#8220;Long John Silver&#8221; comes from, I would suggest reading this book.</p>
<p>Persuasion by Jane Austen was my fourth Austen novel.  Though it wasn&#8217;t as good as some of here other works (IMHO), it still displayed the good ole Jane Austin style of writing that I&#8217;ve come to like.  I find her to be a very talented and witty author.</p>
<p><strong>Gospel:</strong></p>
<p>God is the Gospel by John Piper, is a typical piper book, loaded with scripture and a strong theological foundation.  This may be one of my favorite Piper books because God used it to give me a better and deeper understanding of the gospel.</p>
<p>Living the Cross Centered life by C.J. Mahaney is another book that gave me a better understanding of the gospel.  The book was loaded with gospel truths and practical advice that encourages you to live the cross centered life.</p>
<p><strong>Recent Fiction:</strong></p>
<p>Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince by J.K. Rowling.  Yes, I am a Harry Potter fan and I don&#8217;t just read them to engage the culture!  Rowling is a brilliant author who has brought us one of the most popular serious of all time.  She brings to life a story that is very intricate and always throws you for a loop.</p>
<p>Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows by J.K. Rowling is the final book in the Harry Potter series.  Does Harry and Voldermort live or die?  Is Snape good or bad?  What is the seventh Horcrux?  Those are all questions that are answered in this book.  And yes, I was one of those people who spent all of last Saturday reading it.  All I can say is Wow!</p>
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		<title>Killer Keller Quote</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;When I first began reading through the Bible I looked for some unifying themes. I concluded that there are many and that if we make just one theme the theme (such as ‘covenant’ or ‘kingdom’) we run the danger of reductionism. However, one of the main ways to read the Bible is as the ages-long [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=235&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>&#8220;When I first began reading through the Bible I looked for some unifying themes. I concluded that there are many and that if we make just one theme <em>the </em>theme (such as ‘covenant’ or ‘kingdom’) we run the danger of reductionism. However, one of the main ways to read the Bible is as the ages-long struggle between true faith and idolatry. In the beginning, human beings were made to worship and serve God, and to rule over all created things in God’s name (Gen 1:26­–28). Paul understands humanity’s original sin as an act of idolatry: “They exchanged the glory of the immortal God&#8230;and worshipped and served created things rather than the creator”(Rom 1:21–25).  Instead of living for God, we began to live for ourselves, or our work, or for material goods. We reversed the original intended order. And when we began to<strong> </strong>worship and serve created things, paradoxically, the created things came to rule over <em>us</em>. Instead of being God’s vice-regents, ruling over creation, now creation masters us. We are now subject to decay and disease and disaster. The final proof of this is death itself.  We live for our own glory by toiling in the dust, but eventually we return to the dust—the dust “wins” (Gen 3:17–19). We live to make a name for ourselves but our names are forgotten. Here in the beginning of the Bible we learn that idolatry means slavery and death.&#8221;</p>
<p>read on <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/articleprint.php?a=2">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>4th of July Bike Tour</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know you all have been waiting with baited breath for the release of the 4th of July Bike Tour Video.  Now it&#8217;s here!  Enjoy.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I know you all have been waiting with baited breath for the release of the 4th of July Bike Tour Video.  Now it&#8217;s here!  Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>Hebrews</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am on the verge of launching into a study of the book of Hebrews and was wondering if anyone would like to join.  I am also curious if any of you have suggested commentaries or other resources that would be helpful? I have wanted to do this study for a while but have [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=233&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I am on the verge of launching into a study of the book of Hebrews and was wondering if anyone would like to join.  I am also curious if any of you have suggested commentaries or other resources that would be helpful? I have wanted to do this study for a while but have been putting it off.  It will require significant time and energy which is now available and accompanied by an inprocrastinatable hunger brought on by Heb 1:1-4.</p>
<p>I appreciate any help and would like to study and discuss Hebrews on this blog if anyone else is interested.</p>
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		<title>Weekly Dose of Chesterton &#8211; Romance of Thrift</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 03:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p class="MsoNormal">Get ready, this is <strong>really</strong> a dose of Chesterton.  Enjoy!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">The larger part of womankind, however, have had to fight for things slightly more intoxicating to the eye than the desk or the typewriter; and it cannot be denied that in defending these, women have developed the quality called prejudice to a powerful and even menacing degree. But these prejudices will always be found to fortify the main position of the woman, that she is to remain a general overseer, an autocrat within small compass but on all sides.<span>  </span>On the one or two points on which she really misunderstands the man&#8217;s position, it is almost entirely in order to preserve her own.<span>  </span>The two points on which woman, actually and of herself, is most tenacious may be roughly summarized as the ideal of thrift and the ideal of dignity.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">Unfortunately for this book it is written by a male, and these two qualities, if not hateful to a man, are at least hateful in a man. But if we are to settle the sex question at all fairly, all males must make an imaginative attempt to enter into the attitude of all good women toward these two things. The difficulty exists especially, perhaps, in the thing called thrift; we men have so much encouraged each other in throwing money right and left, that there has come at last to be a sort of chivalrous and poetical air about losing sixpence.<span>  </span>But on a broader and more candid consideration the case scarcely stands so.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">Thrift is the really romantic thing; economy is more romantic than extravagance.<span>  </span>Heaven knows I for one speak disinterestedly in the matter; for I cannot clearly remember saving a half-penny ever since I was born.<span>  </span>But the thing is true; economy, properly understood, is the more poetic.<span>  </span>Thrift is poetic because it is creative; waste is unpoetic because it is waste.<span>  </span>It is prosaic to throw money away, because it is prosaic to throw anything away; it is negative; it is a confession of indifference, that is, it is a confession of failure.<span>  </span>The most prosaic thing about the house is the dustbin, and the one great objection to the new fastidious and aesthetic homestead is simply that in such a moral menage the dustbin must be bigger than the house. If a man could undertake to make use of all things in his dustbin he would be a broader genius than Shakespeare.<span>  </span>When science began to use by-products; when science found that colors could be made out of coaltar, she made her greatest and perhaps her only claim on the real respect of the human soul.<span>  </span>Now the aim of the good woman is to use the by-products, or, in other words, to rummage in the dustbin.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">A man can only fully comprehend it if he thinks of some sudden joke or expedient got up with such materials as may be found in a private house on a rainy day.<span>  </span>A man&#8217;s definite daily work is generally run with such rigid convenience of modern science that thrift, the picking up of potential helps here and there, has almost become unmeaning to him.<span>  </span>He comes across it most (as I say) when he is playing some game within four walls; when in charades, a hearthrug will just do for a fur coat, or a tea-cozy just do for a cocked hat; when a toy theater needs timber and cardboard, and the house has just enough firewood and just enough bandboxes.<span>  </span>This is the man&#8217;s occasional glimpse and pleasing parody of thrift.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">But many a good housekeeper plays the same game every day with ends of cheese and scraps of silk, not because she is mean, but on the contrary, because she is magnanimous; because she wishes her creative mercy to be over all her works, that not one sardine should be destroyed, or cast as rubbish to the void, when she has made the pile complete.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">The modern world must somehow be made to understand (in theology and other things) that a view may be vast, broad, universal, liberal and yet come into conflict with another view that is vast, broad, universal and liberal also. <span> </span>There is never a war between two sects, but only between two universal Catholic <span> </span>churches.<span>  </span>The only possible collision is the collision of one cosmos with another.<span>  </span>So in a smaller way it must be first made clear that this female economic ideal is a part of that female variety of outlook and all-round art of life which we have already attributed to the sex: thrift is not a small or timid or provincial thing; it is part of that great idea of the woman watching on all sides out of all the windows of the soul and being answerable for everything.<span>  </span>For in the average human house there is one hole by which money comes in and a hundred by which it goes out; man has to do with the one hole, woman with the hundred.<span>  </span>But though the very stinginess of a woman is a part of her spiritual breadth, it is none the less true that it brings her into conflict with the special kind of spiritual breadth that belongs to the males of the tribe.<span>  </span>It brings her into conflict with that shapeless cataract of Comradeship, of chaotic feasting and deafening debate, which we noted in the last section.<span>  </span>The very touch of the eternal in the two sexual tastes brings them the more into antagonism; for one stands for a universal vigilance and the other for an almost infinite output.<span>  </span>Partly through the nature of his moral weakness, and partly through the nature or his physical strength, the male is normally prone to expand things into a sort of eternity; he always thinks of a dinner party as lasting all night; and he always thinks of a night as lasting forever.<span>  </span>When the working women in the poor districts come to the doors of the public houses and try to get their husbands home, simple minded &#8220;social workers&#8221; always imagine that every husband is a tragic drunkard and every wife a broken-hearted saint.<span>  </span>It never occurs to them that the poor woman is only doing under coarser conventions exactly what every fashionable hostess does when she tries to get the men from arguing over the cigars to come and gossip over the teacups.<span>  </span>These women are not exasperated merely at the amount of money that is wasted in beer; they are exasperated also at the amount of time that is wasted in talk. It is not merely what goeth into the mouth but what cometh out the mouth that, in their opinion, defileth a man. They will raise against an argument (like their sisters of all ranks) the ridiculous objection that nobody is convinced by it; as if a man wanted to make a body-slave of anybody with whom he had played single-stick. But the real female prejudice on this point is not without a basis; the real feeling is this, that the most masculine pleasures have a quality of the ephemeral.<span>  </span>A duchess may ruin a duke for a diamond necklace; but there is the necklace.<span>  </span>A coster may ruin his wife for a pot of beer; and where is the beer?<span>  </span>The duchess quarrels with another duchess in order to crush her, to produce a result; the coster does not argue with another coster in order to convince him, but in order to enjoy at once the sound of his own voice, the <span> </span>clearness of his own opinions and the sense of masculine society.<span>  </span>There is this element of a fine fruitlessness about the male enjoyments; wine is poured into a bottomless bucket; thought plunges into a bottomless abyss.<span>  </span>All this has set woman against the Public House&#8211;that is, against the Parliament House.<span>  </span>She is there to prevent waste; and the &#8220;pub&#8221; and the parliament are the very palaces of waste. In the upper classes the &#8220;pub&#8221; is called the club, but that makes no more difference to the reason than it does to the rhyme.<span>  </span>High and low, the woman&#8217;s objection to the Public House is perfectly definite and rational, it is that the Public House wastes the energies that could be used on the private house.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">As it is about feminine thrift against masculine waste, so it is about feminine dignity against masculine rowdiness.<span>  </span>The woman has a fixed and very well-founded idea that if she does not insist on good manners nobody else will.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">Babies are not always strong on the point of dignity, and grown-up men are quite unpresentable.<span>  </span>It is true that there are many very polite men, but none that I ever heard of who were not either fascinating women or obeying them.<span>  </span>But indeed the female ideal of dignity, like the female ideal of thrift, lies deeper and may easily be misunderstood. It rests ultimately on a strong idea of spiritual isolation; the same that makes women religious.<span>  </span>They do not like being melted down; they dislike and avoid the mob That anonymous quality we have remarked in the club conversation would be common impertinence in a case of ladies.<span>  </span>I remember an artistic and eager lady asking me in her grand green drawing-room whether I believed in comradeship between the sexes, and why not.<span>  </span>I was driven back on offering the obvious and sincere answer &#8220;Because if I were to treat you for two minutes like a comrade you would turn me out of the house.&#8221;<span>  </span>The only certain rule on this subject is always to deal with woman and never with women.<span>  </span>&#8220;Women&#8221; is a profligate word; I have used it repeatedly in this chapter; but it always has a blackguard sound.<span>  </span>It smells of oriental cynicism and hedonism.<span>  </span>Every woman is a captive queen.<span>  </span>But every crowd of women is only a harem broken loose.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">I am not expressing my own views here, but those of nearly all the women I have known.<span>  </span>It is quite unfair to say that a woman hates other women individually; but I think it would be quite true to say that she detests them in a confused heap.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">And this is not because she despises her own sex, but because she respects it; and respects especially that sanctity and separation of each item which is represented in manners by the idea of dignity and in morals by the idea of chastity.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">from G.K. Chesterton&#8217;s <em>What&#8217;s Wrong With the World</em></p>
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		<title>Weekly Dose of Chesterton</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/07/02/weekly-dose-of-chesterton-3/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Of course, the main fact about education is that there is no such thing.  It does not exist, as theology or soldiering exist. Theology is a word like geology, soldiering is a word like soldering; these sciences may be healthy or no as hobbies; but they deal with stone and kettles, with definite things. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=231&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">&#8220;Of course, the main fact about education is that there is no such thing.<span>  </span>It does not exist, as theology or soldiering exist. Theology is a word like geology, soldiering is a word like soldering; these sciences may be healthy or no as hobbies; but they deal with stone and kettles, with definite things. But education is not a word like geology or kettles. Education is a word like &#8220;transmission&#8221; or &#8220;inheritance&#8221;; it is not an object, but a method.<span>  </span>It must mean the conveying of certain facts, views or qualities, to the last baby born.<span>  </span>They might be the most trivial facts or the most preposterous views or the most offensive qualities; but if they are handed on from one generation to another they are education.<span>  </span>Education is not a thing like theology, it is not an inferior or superior thing; it is not a thing in the same category of terms.<span>  </span>Theology and education are to each other like a love-letter to the General Post Office.<span>  </span>Mr. Fagin was quite as educational as Dr. Strong; in practice probably more educational.<span>  </span>It is giving something&#8211;perhaps poison.<span>  </span>Education is tradition, and tradition (as its name implies) can be treason.</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;"></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;">This first truth is frankly banal; but it is so perpetually ignored in our political prosing that it must be made plain.<span>  </span>A little boy in a little house, son of a little tradesman, is taught to eat his breakfast, to take his medicine, to love his country, to say his prayers, and to wear his Sunday clothes. Obviously Fagin, if he found such a boy, would teach him to drink gin, to lie, to betray his country, to blaspheme and to wear false whiskers.<span>  </span>But so also Mr. Salt the vegetarian would abolish the boy&#8217;s breakfast; Mrs. Eddy would throw away his medicine; Count Tolstoi would rebuke him for loving his country; Mr. Blatchford would stop his prayers, and Mr. Edward Carpenter would theoretically denounce Sunday clothes, and perhaps all clothes.<span>  </span>I do not defend any of these advanced views, not even Fagin&#8217;s. But I do ask what, between the lot of them, has become of the abstract entity called education.<span>  </span>It is not (as commonly supposed) that the tradesman teaches education plus Christianity; Mr. Salt, <span> </span>education plus vegetarianism; Fagin, education plus crime.<span>  </span>The truth is, that there is nothing in common at all between these teachers, except that they teach.<span>  </span>In short, the only thing they share is the one thing they profess to dislike:<span>  </span>the general idea of authority. It is quaint that people talk of separating dogma from education. Dogma is actually the only thing that cannot be separated from education. It is education.<span>  </span>A teacher who is not dogmatic is simply a teacher who is not teaching.&#8221;</span></p>
<p>~G.K. Chesterton from <em>What&#8217;s Wrong With the World</em></p>
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		<title>40 Day Blog Fast</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/06/28/40-day-blog-fast/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 15:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A group is doing it right now, here.  I&#8217;ve joined some friends who will be starting when the first group finishes.  Check it out and sign up here.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>A group is doing it right now, <a href="http://thesecretlifeofkat.com/pages/40dayfast">here</a>.  I&#8217;ve joined some friends who will be starting when the first group finishes.  Check it out and sign up <a href="isaiah543.wordpress.com/collaborative-40-day-fast/">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Weekly Dose of Chesterton</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/06/27/weekly-dose-of-chesterton-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Men invent new ideals because they dare not attempt old ideals. They             look forward with enthusiasm, because they are afraid to look back.
G.K. Chesterton, from What&#8217;s Wrong With the World.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Men invent new ideals because they dare not attempt old ideals. They             look forward with enthusiasm, because they are afraid to look back.</p>
<p>G.K. Chesterton, from <em>What&#8217;s Wrong With the World</em>.</p>
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		<title>RAID THE PIGGY BANKS!!!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just got an email from a friend pointing me to the DG store.  On June 27-28, all books in the DG store are going for $5!!! (see the banner ad.)
Have you always wanted to give that special someone (named Mark) the Piper books he doesn&#8217;t have?  Now is your chance!
Ok, really, this is incredible.  [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=228&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I just got an email from a friend pointing me to the <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Store/">DG store</a>.  On June 27-28, all books in the <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Store/">DG store are going for $5!!! (see the banner ad.)</a></p>
<p>Have you always wanted to give that special someone (named Mark) the Piper books he doesn&#8217;t have?  Now is your chance!</p>
<p>Ok, really, <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Store/">this</a> is incredible.  I&#8217;m emailing my small group to see if we want to give away books to people, etc.</p>
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		<title>Oh my, that&#8217;s funny</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Sacred Sandwich is advertising the new Pirates of the Magisterium.

This reminds me of 2 things:
1. If you&#8217;ve never tasted the biting sarcasm of the Sacred Sandwich, you should do so here.
2. I&#8217;ve seen some other pirates about recently&#8230; but they&#8217;re the kind that affirm Sola Scriptura.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://www.sacredsandwich.com">The Sacred Sandwich</a> is advertising the new <a href="http://www.sacredsandwich.com/advertisement19.htm"><em>Pirates of the Magisterium</em></a>.</p>
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<p>This reminds me of 2 things:</p>
<p>1. If you&#8217;ve never tasted the biting sarcasm of the Sacred Sandwich, you should do so <a href="http://www.sacredsandwich.com">here</a>.</p>
<p>2. I&#8217;ve seen some <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8854490@N08/tags/potc/">other pirates</a> about recently&#8230; but they&#8217;re the kind that affirm Sola Scriptura.</p>
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		<title>Request for Resources</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey 5Pointers,
In the Johanine Epistles class I&#8217;m currently taking, I have to write a little research paper (7-10 pages).  The topic I picked last night is &#8220;The Atonement in 1 John.&#8221;  There are plenty of meaty verses in 1 John to cover the page limit, and some interesting statements to wrestle with (e.g. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=226&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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<p>In the Johanine Epistles class I&#8217;m currently taking, I have to write a little research paper (7-10 pages).  The topic I picked last night is &#8220;The Atonement in 1 John.&#8221;  There are plenty of meaty verses in 1 John to cover the page limit, and some interesting statements to wrestle with (e.g. &#8220;not only for our sins, but also for the whole world&#8221; or &#8220;the Son of God appeared to destroy the works of the Devil&#8221; or &#8220;he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins&#8221;).</p>
<p>If you have any resources I should consider while researching these passages (and others), please let me know about them in the comments!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a list of texts (off the top of my head) that I will consult:</p>
<p>Lexicons/Dictionaries: TDNT, BDAG</p>
<p>Commentaries: Bruce, Marshall, Stott, Thompson, Boice, Carson (Gospel of John)</p>
<p>Themed  Works: Owen (Death of Death), Murray (Redemption), Pinnock (Grace Unlimited), Olsen (Beyond Calvinism&#8230;)</p>
<p>Thanks for your input.  And if my paper is any good I&#8217;ll put some of it online.   <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also, if you think of it, I could use your prayers as I research and write.</p>
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		<title>Text on Mormonism, Online</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/06/21/text-on-mormonism-online/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In listening to AOMin&#8217;s DL today (program dated 06/19/07), Dr. White mentioned that Letters to a Mormon Elder is available online for your reading and referencing.  You can check it out here for free.
I have been way behind in reading all the posts on Pros Apologian on LDS stuff, but I&#8217;ll get to them [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=225&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>In listening to <a href="http://www.aomin.org">AOMin</a>&#8217;s DL today (program dated 06/19/07), Dr. White mentioned that <a href="http://www.novus2.com/alphamin/LETTERS/MAINPAGE.htm"><em>Letters to a Mormon Elder</em></a> is available online for your reading and referencing.  You can check it out <a href="http://www.novus2.com/alphamin/LETTERS/MAINPAGE.htm">here</a> for free.</p>
<p>I have been way behind in reading all the posts on <em>Pros Apologian</em> on LDS stuff, but I&#8217;ll get to them eventually. Meanwhile, I hope this resource helps you in sharing the Gospel.</p>
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		<title>Weekly Dose of Chesterton</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/06/19/weekly-dose-of-chesterton/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Progress is Providence without God. That is, it is a theory             that everything has always perpetually gone right by accident. It is             a sort of atheistic optimism, based on an everlasting [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=224&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>&#8220;Progress is Providence without God. That is, it is a theory             that everything has always perpetually gone right by accident. It is             a sort of atheistic optimism, based on an everlasting coincidence far             more miraculous than a miracle.&#8221; ~G.K. Chesterton</p>
<p>(HT: <a href="http://www.chesterton.org">ACS</a>)</p>
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		<title>No one likes it&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nobody likes it when a friend or acquaintence can dish out the jokes but can&#8217;t recieve them back.  What&#8217;s worse is when it is on a national scale.  I think this news piece is the back end of this universal human fault.
Clearly, this is a place where the Brits and Americans have it [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=222&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Nobody likes it when a friend or acquaintence can dish out the jokes but can&#8217;t recieve them back.  What&#8217;s worse is when it is on a national scale.  I think <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6747801.stm">this news piece </a>is the back end of this universal human fault.</p>
<p>Clearly, this is a place where the Brits and Americans have it on the French.  A half-frenchman (Wallonie, right?) makes a joke, and the French can&#8217;t take it.  C&#8217;est la vie.</p>
<p>I know I could work against this frenchness in me and be less concerned with what others say about me, such that I&#8217;m not going to pounce on somebody to justify myself after thier joke.</p>
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		<title>Daily Dose of Chesterton</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/06/11/daily-dose-of-chesterton-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Our national claim to political incorruptibility is actually based on exactly the opposite argument; it is based on the theory that wealthy men in assured ositions will have no temptation to financial trickery.
Whether the history of the English aristocracy, from the spoliation of the monasteries to the annexation of the mines, entirely supports this theory [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=220&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p class="MsoNormal">&#8220;Our national claim to political incorruptibility is actually based on exactly the opposite argument; it is based on the theory that wealthy men in assured ositions will have no temptation to financial trickery.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Whether the history of the English aristocracy, from the spoliation of the monasteries to the annexation of the mines, entirely supports this theory I am not now inquiring; but certainly it is our theory, that wealth will be a protection against political corruption. he English statesman is bribed not to be bribed. <span> </span>He is born with a silver spoon in his mouth, so that he may ever afterwards be found with the silver spoons in his pocket. So strong is our faith in this protection by plutocracy, hat we are more and more trusting our empire in the hands of families which inherit wealth without either blood or manners. ome of our political houses are parvenue by pedigree; they hand on vulgarity like a coat of-arms. In the case of any a modern statesman to say that he is born with a silver spoon in his mouth, is at once inadequate and excessive. He is born with a silver knife in his mouth.<span>  </span>But all this only illustrates the English theory that poverty is perilous for a politician.&#8221;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">From G.K. Chesterton&#8217;s <em>What&#8217;s Wrong with the World</em>.</p>
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		<title>A fun way to support missionaries&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/06/10/a-fun-way-to-support-missionaries/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hold a Settler&#8217;s Tournament!  Get a bunch of guys together and have a tournament w/ an entrance fee &#8211; then give all the money to some missionaries that could use it.  It&#8217;s just that simple.
In the picture below, you can catch a glimpse of Joel, the &#8220;Lord of Catan.&#8221;  I think he [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=218&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Hold a Settler&#8217;s Tournament!  Get a bunch of guys together and have a tournament w/ an entrance fee &#8211; then give all the money to some missionaries that could use it.  It&#8217;s just that simple.</p>
<p>In the picture below, you can catch a glimpse of Joel, the &#8220;Lord of Catan.&#8221;  I think he easily won by two points.  Congrats Joel!</p>
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		<title>Wow this is sad.</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/06/07/wow-this-is-sad/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t know what to do about this as of yet, but I think linking to it here is a good start.  Basically a violinist, leaving the airport in MN was beat up and tased for riding his bicycle home.  Yeah.  Unbelievable.
Now, if you&#8217;ll excuse me, I&#8217;m going to ride my bicycle [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=217&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I don&#8217;t know what to do about <a href="http://greencycles.blogspot.com/">this</a> as of yet, but I think linking to it here is a good start.  Basically a violinist, leaving the airport in MN was beat up and tased for riding his bicycle home.  Yeah.  Unbelievable.</p>
<p>Now, if you&#8217;ll excuse me, I&#8217;m going to ride my bicycle home.</p>
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		<title>You haven&#8217;t read this yet?</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/06/07/you-havent-read-this-yet/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Read it.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/2007/06/06/nothing-to-see-here/">Read it.</a></p>
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		<title>Romance and Infancy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[  As many of you know, my wife and I are expecting our first child.  Fortunately for me, my wife has plunged into the world of literature on the subject and is becoming acquainted with all manner of philosophy on child health and rearing.  Since we recently finished The Man Who Was [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=215&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>  As many of you know, my wife and I are expecting our first child.  Fortunately for me, my wife has plunged into the world of literature on the subject and is becoming acquainted with all manner of philosophy on child health and rearing.  Since we recently finished <a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/chesterton/thursday.html"><em>The Man Who Was Thursday</em></a> together, we tried our hand at book one of<a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/augustine/confess.html"> Augustine&#8217;s <em>Confessions</em></a>.  Having read enough of it previously to know he talks about childhood and infancy, I was eager to read it with the wife.  Here&#8217;s an excerpt we came across yesterday that, I think, will be prophetic for our youngster.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>I began to smile; first in sleep, then waking: for so it was told me of myself, and I believed it; for we see the like in other infants, though of myself I remember it not. Thus, little by little, I became conscious where I was; and to have a wish to express my wishes to those who could content them, and I could not; for the wishes were within me, and they without; nor could they by any sense of theirs enter within my spirit. So I flung about at random limbs and voice, making the few signs I could, and such as I could, like, though in truth very little like, what I wished. And when I was not presently obeyed (my wishes being hurtful or unintelligible), then I was indignant with my elders for not submitting to me, with those owing me no service, for not serving me; and avenged myself on them by tears. Such have I learnt infants to be from observing them; and that I was myself such, they, all unconscious, have shown me better than my nurses who knew it.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Pretty Cool</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/05/24/pretty-cool/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 13:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here.
And here.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://www.aomin.org/index.php?itemid=2006">Here</a>.</p>
<p>And <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4313978.stm">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>A Timely Exhortation</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/a-timely-exhortation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 21:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>larry5</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Listen to brother James&#8217; sobering words. 
&#8220;Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.  For we all stumble in many ways, and if anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his whole [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=212&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Listen to brother James&#8217; sobering words. </p>
<p>&#8220;Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.  For we all stumble in many ways, and if anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his whole body.&#8221;</p>
<p>James 3:-1-2</p>
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		<title>1730s Marriage in Northampton</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 14:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been reading &#8220;Jonathan Edwards: A Life&#8221; by George M. Marsden the past week.  If you couldn&#8217;t tell by the title, it’s a biography on the life of Jonathan Edwards.  The book has been engaging and stimulating, even for a biography.  

One part that completely caught me by surprise was the average marrying age of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=211&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p class="MsoNormal">I&#8217;ve been reading <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Jonathan-Edwards-George-M-Marsden/dp/0300105967/ref=sr_1_1/102-5420252-7532951?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1179410120&amp;sr=8-1" title="A Life" target="_blank">&#8220;Jonathan Edwards: A Life&#8221; by George M. Marsden</a> the past week.<span>  </span>If you couldn&#8217;t tell by the title, it’s a biography on the life of Jonathan Edwards.<span>  </span>The book has been engaging and stimulating, even for a biography.<span>  </span></p>
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One part that completely caught me by surprise was the average marrying age of Northampton in the late 1720s and early 1730s.<span>  </span>From my previous understanding of marriage history (which is very limited), I would assume people during this era would have been married by, at the latest, their twentieth birthday.<span>  </span>I’ve always been under the impression that “back in the day,” people were marrying a lot younger and today’s marriage culture is a new phenomenon.<span>  </span>The “new” concept of marriage at an older age may not always have been the norm.<span>  </span>As Marsden points out, most men and women in Northampton around 1730 were in their late twenties when married (Edwards was early/mid twenties).<span>  </span>Now, this may have been a fluke and a rare occurrence, but shows that our “new” marriage culture <strong>may </strong>not be so new after all.<span>  </span></p>
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		<title>Good News &amp; Bad News</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 23:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, I&#8217;ll start with the good news.  If you wear a helmet when you bike, you have a chance when a delivery truck runs over your head!  Otherwise, you&#8217;re toast.  Talk about an ad for Giro helmets!
Now, for the bad news.  Champaign has repealed the ban on smoking in restaurants and bars.  Some bar owners [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=210&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>So, I&#8217;ll start with the good news.  If you wear a helmet when you bike, you have a chance <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/15/mangled.helmet.ap/index.html">when a delivery truck runs over your head!</a>  Otherwise, you&#8217;re toast.  Talk about an ad for Giro helmets!</p>
<p>Now, for the bad news.  <a href="http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2007/05/16/champaign_repeals_3-month-old_ban_on_bar_club_smoking">Champaign has repealed the ban on smoking in restaurants and bars.</a>  Some bar owners have complained about loss of profits.  The rest of society complains about rising health care costs&#8230;so what does our city council do?  5 to 4 they act like they weren&#8217;t using Giro helmets (see above).</p>
<p>The good news: the state of IL will likely place a statewide ban on smoking in public places later this year.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Watch this video &#8211; tell us what you think</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/05/07/watch-this-video-tell-us-what-you-think/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 13:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Resurgence&#8217;s Banned Church Planting Video
(HT:Unashamed Workman)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://theresurgence.com/md_blog_2007-04-28_banned_church_planting_video">Resurgence&#8217;s Banned Church Planting Video</a></p>
<p>(HT:<a href="http://unashamedworkman.wordpress.com/"></a><a href="http://unashamedworkman.wordpress.com/">Unashamed Workman</a>)</p>
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		<title>Pursuant to Our Discussion of Seminaries&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/pursuant-to-our-discussion-of-seminaries/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[from the Reformation 21 article on Domestication of Radical Ideas.
&#8230;in all of the effort to free the Bible from domesticated categories, it is sometimes forgotten that the taming of Christianity is not limited to the biblical text. For example, once theological education became competitive big business, the marketing of it turned into something well beyond [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=207&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>from the Reformation 21 article on <a href="http://www.reformation21.org/Counterpoints/Counterpoints/327/vobId__5857/">Domestication of Radical Ideas</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;in all of the effort to free the Bible from domesticated categories, it is sometimes forgotten that the taming of Christianity is not limited to the biblical text. For example, once theological education became competitive big business, the marketing of it turned into something well beyond the simple description to prospective students of what goes on at a seminary or a college. There is a complex relationship between traditional curricula, the demands of the church, the expectations of the students, and the ability of the marketplace itself not simply to satisfy needs but also to create needs and open up new markets. The implications of theology as commodity have not yet been self-consciously addressed by educational institutions; and, given the nature of the free market as something of a sacred cow in current Western thinking, such questions are unlikely to be pressed in the foreseeable future.</p></blockquote>
<p>(HT: <a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com">JT</a>)</p>
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		<title>Unsatisfactory Definition of Insanity</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/04/27/unsatisfactory-definition-of-insanity/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 03:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Can you tell I&#8217;m up past my bedtime?)
We&#8217;ve all heard it, something like: &#8220;doing the same thing and expecting a different result is a definition of insanity.&#8221;  I&#8217;ve heard it from college profs, read it in magazines and blogs &#8211; it seems to be accepted in our culture.  The problem is, that if [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=206&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>(Can you tell I&#8217;m up past my bedtime?)</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all heard it, something like: &#8220;<font face="Trebuchet MS, Georgia, Times New Roman, serif" size="2">doing the same thing and expecting a different result is a definition of insanity.</font>&#8221;  I&#8217;ve heard it from college profs, read it in magazines and blogs &#8211; it seems to be accepted in our culture.  The problem is, that if we stopped and actually considered it, we&#8217;d realize either it&#8217;s an unsatisfactory definition, or we&#8217;re all insane.</p>
<p>Everybody goes to sleep each night and wakes up in the morning.  Do we expect a different result after a night&#8217;s rest?  Do we expect today to be different from yesterday?  Yes.  We&#8217;d be crazy not to.</p>
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		<title>How about some John Stott too!</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/04/26/how-about-some-john-stott-too/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 02:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been reading The Cross of Christ by John Stott and here are some excerpts that I&#8217;ve read the past couple of days.  Enjoy and I would recommend this book as well!
The reason why many people give the wrong answers to questions about the cross, and even ask the wrong questions, is that they [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=205&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I&#8217;ve been reading <span style="font-style:italic;">The Cross of Christ</span> by John Stott and here are some excerpts that I&#8217;ve read the past couple of days.  Enjoy and I would recommend this book as well!</p>
<blockquote><p>The reason why many people give the wrong answers to questions about the cross, and even ask the wrong questions, is that they have carefully considered neither the seriousness of sin nor the majesty of God (Stott 91)</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>All inadequate doctrines of the atonement are due to inadequate doctrines of God and humanity.  If we bring God down to our level and raise ourselves to his, then of course we see no need for a radical salvation, let along for a radical atonement to secure it.  When, on the other hand, we have glimpsed the blinding glory of holiness of God and have been so convicted of our sin by the Holy Spirit that we tremble before God and acknowledge what we are, namely &#8220;hell-deserving sinners,&#8221; then and only then does the necessity of the cross appear so obvious that we are astonished we never saw it before.  (Stott 111)</p></blockquote>
<p>Stott, John. <span style="text-decoration:underline;">The Cross of Christ</span>. 20<span class="misspell">th</span> Anniversary Ed. Downers Grove: InterVarsity Press, 2006.</p>
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		<title>Daily Dose of Chesterton</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/04/24/daily-dose-of-chesterton/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Chesterton&#8217;s chapter on Mr. Berhnard Shaw in the work Heretics, he suggests what should be running through Shaw&#8217;s mind when he catches a sight of his own feet:
What are those two beautiful and industrious beings,” I can     imagine him murmuring to himself, “whom I see everywhere, serving me I know [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=204&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>In Chesterton&#8217;s chapter on Mr. Berhnard Shaw in the work <em>Heretics</em>, he suggests what should be running through Shaw&#8217;s mind when he catches a sight of his own feet:</p>
<blockquote><p>What are those two beautiful and industrious beings,” I can     imagine him murmuring to himself, “whom I see everywhere, serving me I know     not why? What fairy godmother bade them come trotting out of elfland when I     was born?  What god of the borderland, what barbaric god of legs, must I     propitiate with fire and wine, lest they run away with me?”</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Campus Ministry Question</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/04/20/campus-ministry-question/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’ve been pondering a question the past several weeks and have started asking others their thoughts.
Why do a lot of Christians who go off to college find non-church organizations (i.e. Campus Crusade, Navigators, IV, etc) more attractive than a local church?
Now I humbly ask for your thoughts and opinions!
Soli Deo Gloria, Adam
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I’ve been pondering a question the past several weeks and have started asking others their thoughts.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Why do a lot of Christians who go off to college find non-church organizations (i.e. Campus Crusade, Navigators, IV, etc) more attractive than a local church?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Now I humbly ask for your thoughts and opinions!</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Soli Deo Gloria, Adam</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>Ten Questions for Expositors</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t know about you, but I&#8217;ve throughly enjoyed Unashamed Workman&#8217;s &#8220;Ten Questions for Expositors&#8221; series.  You should check it out!  Here is a list of those he interviewed so far.
Tim Keller
Philip Ryken
Voddie Baucham
Excerpt from Baucham,
 7. What are the greatest perils that preacher must avoid?
Laziness, pride and the fear of men. Laziness [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=202&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p style="font-family:Arial;"><font size="2">I don&#8217;t know about you, but I&#8217;ve throughly enjoyed <a href="http://unashamedworkman.wordpress.com/" title="Unashamed Workman's" target="blank_">Unashamed Workman&#8217;s</a> <span style="font-style:italic;">&#8220;Ten Questions for Expositors&#8221;</span> series.  You should check it out!  Here is a list of those he interviewed so far.</font></p>
<p><font size="2"><a href="http://unashamedworkman.wordpress.com/2007/04/04/ten-questions-for-expositors/">Tim Keller</a></font></p>
<p><font size="2"><a href="http://unashamedworkman.wordpress.com/2007/04/11/ten-questions-for-expositors-ryken/">Philip Ryken</a></font></p>
<p><font size="2"><a href="http://unashamedworkman.wordpress.com/2007/04/18/10-questions-for-expositors-voddie-bauckham/" title="Voddie Baucham" target="blank_">Voddie Baucham</a></font></p>
<p><font size="2">Excerpt from Baucham,</font></p>
<blockquote><p><font size="2"><strong> 7. What are the greatest perils that preacher must avoid?</strong></font></p>
<p style="font-family:Arial;"><font size="2">Laziness, pride and the fear of men. Laziness will keep us from plumbing the depths of the Word. Pride will keep us from prayer, and the fear of men will keep us from preaching the hard things.<br />
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		<title>Missions Reading List</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 14:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Perspectives program has a helpful reading list, split up for all 15 weeks of the Perspectives course.  You can check out the titles and course outline here.  Go check it out!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>The <a href="http://www.perspectives.org/">Perspectives program</a> has a helpful reading list, split up for all 15 weeks of the Perspectives course.  You can check out the titles and course outline <a href="http://www.perspectives.org/coordinators/booktable.html">here</a>.  Go check it out!</p>
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		<title>Seminary: Cemetery?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 14:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The common joke goes something like that.  But there is a grain of truth in it that motivates many commentators.  In reading the introduction to D.A. Carson&#8217;s Exegetical Fallacies, 2nd Edition, I found some commentary that is helpful in the quest to allow seminary to be a spiritual green house, rather than a [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=201&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>The common joke goes something like that.  But there is a grain of truth in it that motivates many commentators.  In reading the introduction to D.A. Carson&#8217;s <em>Exegetical Fallacies, 2nd Edition</em>, I found some commentary that is helpful in the quest to allow seminary to be a spiritual green house, rather than a mortuary.</p>
<p>Carson describes the shift away from devotionally minded Bible reading into critical biblical study as experienced by a fictitious seminary student.  Most seminarians probably come from just such a situation &#8211; fluent in their tradition&#8217;s interpretation and eager for devotional insights, yet unacquainted with critical issues in the text and variant theological perspectives.  The jarring process the exegete undergoes in studying a text Carson describes as “distanciation.”  (Both my computer dictionary and my old red Webster&#8217;s failed me on that one!)  If you look up distanciation on the web, in English, you should find that it describes the process of being confronted with views that differ from your own, after which you must evaluate critically and reestablish your own view.  This process of alienation must happen when we come to the biblical text, otherwise we are just reading our own views or our preferred tradition into the text.</p>
<p>It is clear how this could contribute to some negative effects in the lives of seminarians!  Three responses Carson identifies are “a defensive pietism that boisterously denounces the arid intellectualism&#8230; all around” or “the vortex of a kind of intellectual commitment that squeezes out worship, prayer, witness, and meditative reading of Scripture” or one “may stagger along until he is rescued by graduation and returns to the real world.”(pg. 23)</p>
<p>Carson does not leave us with these three common responses, but suggests that we can enjoy the best of both worlds – intellectual and devotional satisfaction.  “Work hard at incorporating your entire Christian walk (practical/devotional) and commitment (intellectual), and the topic of this study (exegesis, specifically pitfalls therein) will prove beneficial.(pg 24)” [parenthesis added by me.]</p>
<p>So, this post has three encouragements: 1. Wrestle with the text and embrace the shifts in your worldview on account of interacting with Scripture, to be more conformed to it.  2.  There is in fact good stuff in the introductions to books!  3.  Seminary need not be Cemetery!</p>
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		<title>Seminary Selection</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 13:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those of you who are thinking about seminary, here is a helpful post by Mark Dever about factors to consider when selecting.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>For those of you who are thinking about seminary, <a href="http://blog.togetherforthegospel.org/2007/04/how_to_pick_a_s.html" title="How to pick a seminary">here </a>is a helpful post by Mark Dever about factors to consider when selecting.</p>
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		<title>Reflections</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have had the past couple of days to reflect upon what I learned from the retreat I spoke at this past weekend.   Overall I enjoyed it a lot and am thankful for the opportunity God had given me.   Here are some things that I’m learning, in no particular order.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p class="MsoNormal">I have had the past couple of days to reflect upon what I learned from the retreat I spoke at this past weekend.<span>   </span>Overall I enjoyed it a lot and am thankful for the opportunity God had given me.<span>   </span>Here are some things that I’m learning, in no particular order.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1.<span>  </span>Ungodly regret (2 Corinthians 7)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">It is easy to sit back and dwell upon things I should have said or clarifications I should have provided.<span>   </span>During this time I seem to become focused upon my words and how I could have done better.<span>   </span>There is nothing wrong with evaluating and using it as a time for God to teach and mold you, but when the focus is on yourself and how you could improve to make yourself look better, then that is when your trust is resting in yourself.<span>   </span>On Saturday evening this was the case, I cared more about how good of job I did, which resulted in disappointment and regret in the worldly sense.<span>   </span>My pride was more important than the glory of God.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2.<span>  </span>God is Sovereign (Philippians 2:15-18)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am a huge proponent of sound doctrine and accurately handling the word of truth, and I try by the grace of God to do so as well.<span>   </span>Though I desire this, I know that I haven’t been perfect.<span>  </span>Thinking back to some of the things I&#8217;ve believed and shared in the past, I can quickly point to instances where those things weren’t biblical.  Though God commands us to have healthy doctrine, it is His doctrine and He is in control of His word.<span>  </span>He can take the little truth that is there and use it for His glory.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">3.<span>  </span>Disagreement</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Whether it comes from a misunderstanding or different beliefs, people may not agree with you.<span>   </span>It is easy for me to become unsettled if someone doesn’t necessarily agree with what I had to say.<span>   </span>This once again comes from a man centered focus rather than a Christ exalting one.<span>   </span>Not everyone is going to agree with you, regardless, if you’re right or wrong.<span>  </span>  Paul and other heroes of the faith were always being opposed and opposing people frequently.<span>   </span>Though I’m not comparing my self to Paul and others, by any means, it is a fact that if you preach the truth there will be opposition.<span>   </span>Now, disagreement should always take you back to the Scripture.<span>   </span>God will use His word to confirm a truth or reform you to the truth.<span>   </span>And if you&#8217;re wrong praise God that he has used someone to draw you closer to the Truth.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">4.<span>  </span>Can’t expect everyone to understand right away</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">When you think your talk makes perfect sense, it may not make sense to others.<span>   </span>Some people may be tracking with you right away, but others may have a hard time following.<span>   </span>I know, for myself, I have to take time to process information and that may take days or weeks to comprehend what was shared at a talk.<span>   </span>So, if someone isn’t registering with you right away, that’s OK.<span>   </span>The Spirit works in His own time and that’s different for each individual.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’m sure there are other things that I’m learning, but those are some that are sticking out right now.<span>   </span>I have found it fascinating that God continues to teach you as you&#8217;re teaching others.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Soli Deo Gloria</p>
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		<title>Literature and Amazing Grace</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[For class, my professor challenged us all to read a how to book on evaluating different forms of media- whether art, movies, literature, or poetry.  I read Richard Foster&#8217;s How to Read Literature Like a Professor.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>For class, my professor challenged us all to read a <em>how to </em>book on evaluating different forms of media- whether art, movies, literature, or poetry.  I read Richard Foster&#8217;s <em>How to Read Literature Like a Professor.</em></p>
<p>This helped me focus on the broader scope of what is at play when I read.  For example, consider what genre you are drawing from- is it allegory, prose, poetry, satire, etc.?  What might some of the elements symbolize in the book?  And then as I stepped back to consider the question, <em>Why read literature?</em>  I was helped by my professor&#8217;s response: read for entertainment- because you enjoy reading.  It&#8217;s a toold to help us teach and help us learn.  And it&#8217;s helpful to understand the present time, past times, and what vantage point the author is coming from.  </p>
<p>To demonstrate how this has helped me, I&#8217;ll explain a few areas I noticed when watching the movie <em>Amazing Grace.</em><font face="Times New Roman"><span>    <span style="font-family:Georgia;"><span>           </span></span></span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span><span style="font-family:Georgia;"><span></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Georgia;">The main idea is repeated-that Wilberforce persevered to end the slave trade.<span> </span>Right after the Parliament passesa bill that would effectively stop 80% of the slave trade, Wilberforce is seenin the darkness of his house, breaking glass.<span> </span>His wife, fully pregnant, runs down thestairs.<span> </span>He crawls to her and they begindiscussing their child who, she says, will play with him in the garden.<span> </span>In the nextscene the father runs through the garden with his boy on his shoulders,laughing.<span> </span>Then his wife runs to them and tellsWilberforce he must come quickly.<span> </span>He appears in front of his friend,William Pitt, who informs him that soon power will shift and his abolition billwill pass.<span> </span>The next scene, the Parliament is insession and overwhelmingly approves his abolition bill.</span><span></span></p>
<p></span></span><span style="font-family:Georgia;"><span>            </span>To move from the bill stopping 80% of the trade to the final bill abolishing all of slavery, the director simply doesn’t flash us from success in Parliament to success two years later.<span> <span> </span></span>He shows that Wilberforce’s wife is expecting.<span> <span> </span></span>Then she talks of him playing with the child in the garden which demonstrates a future time and new birth.<span> <span> </span></span>The darkness after the passage of the first bill is drowned out by the singing and laughing with the child two years later in the garden.<span> <span> </span></span>Instead of constructing a sheer gulf between the approval one bill and the final abolition bill, the director walks us along a graded path, easing us, through the darkness of night, through the child, through the light and joy of the garden, through the visit to William Pitt, that old power is waning and that new life has begun.<span> <span> </span></span><span><span> </span><span> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:Georgia;"><span>Another structural element present is that of allusions- references to other forms of literature or other works.<span> <span> </span></span>For example, symbols within the movie can be read different ways depending on the background of the listener.<span> <span> </span></span>In one scene the former slave Oloudah Equiano, when asked how he survived his trafficking across the ocean replied, “Your life is a thread.<span> <span> </span></span>It breaks or it doesn’t.” <span><span> </span></span>As I heard that, I ran a quick internal check of what it meant for life to be “a thread.”<span> <span> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Georgia;"><span style="font-family:Georgia;">In Greek mythology, the three sisters of fate determined life span.<span> <span> </span></span>The first sister drew out the <em>thread </em>of life, the second sister measured it and the third sister cut it.<span> <span> </span></span>Therefore, it quite possibly meant that the fates had not decided for Equiano to go yet; his thread of life had not reached its end.<span> <span> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:Georgia;">Yet another way to understand this thinking is understanding more of Equiano’s background.<span> <span> </span></span>In West African thinking, likely Equiano’s origin due to his history and accent, not all questions are returned with linear answers.<span> <span> </span></span>So when Equiano is asked how he survived, he doesn&#8217;t simply say he adjusted his hips to keep them from dislocating or collected droplets of sweat to keep himself hydrated or fell back on some other instinct.<span> <span> </span></span>He replies that his life simply did not break.<span> <span> </span></span>It seems that, here too, the element of fate is involved, though coming from a different cultural landscape.<span> <span> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:Georgia;">And yet even modern molecular biology and the cellular components it elucidates, coming into existence more than a hundred years after this story, can enrich Equiano’s analogy.<span> <span> </span></span>This understanding of life as a thread has to do with cell replication.<span> <span> </span></span>Inside the nucleus of each human cell, DNA is stored which serves as the genetic blueprint of life.<span> <span> </span></span>At the end of DNA is a region of repeating DNA, called telomeres, of which a fraction get lopped off following each replication.<span> <span> </span></span>The DNA is getting cleaved and some scientists speculate that this action plays a role in our aging and dying.<span> <span> </span></span>Whether or not this theory holds, it remains established that though DNA is wound up in the nucleus, when it is unwound, it becomes a long strand- like a thread.<span> <span> </span></span>Even the term biologists use to indicate DNA- single-<em>stranded </em>double-<em>stranded</em>, leading-<em>strand</em>, lagging-<em>strand</em>, etc.-alludes to the idea of a thread.<span> <span> </span></span>And encoded in each thread of DNA, <em>fates</em> are determined.<span> <span> </span></span>They predispose one to early mortality or to chemical dependency or to immune-deficiency and numbers of other <em>fates</em>.<span> <span> </span></span></span><span><span style="font-family:Georgia;">Each of these frameworks helps explain Equiano’s reply.<span> <span> </span></span>Although they were likely not the writer’s intent, they demonstrate that literature makes a thread whose ideas and allusions span generations and cultures.<span> <span> </span></span>Why have some of the strongest and ablest perished in their prime while some of the sick and diseased have continued to live has not been answered on a linear scale.<span> <span> </span></span>How did Equiano survive when often two-thirds or more of the slaves would die?<span> <span> </span></span>His answer points to fate.<span> <span> </span></span></span></span></span><span style="font-family:Georgia;"><span>            </span>And so literature is not just a form relevant to a select few.<span> <span> </span></span>It has and does make up the culture we live in.<span> <span> </span></span>Understanding its techniques and methods enhances our enjoyment of literature.<span> <span> </span></span>And just like a basic understanding of framing architecture does not denude the beauty in well-built houses like a dissection does to the life of an animal, so too a basic understanding of literary elements does not rob us of the different components that give life to stories.<span> <span> </span></span>These basic elements enhance the experience of plays and music, movies and novels.<span> <span> </span></span>They are devices to teach and learn, applicable in the sciences and essential in the arts. <span> </span></span></span></font></p>
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		<title>Contending for the Faith</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wrestling with several issues and consultation with the youth pastor I help has led me, in the spirit of Jude 3, to identify some (though not all) of the propositional truths at the center of the Scriptures.   This is referred to as the Bounded Set theory of Christianity which has been heavily emphasized since the reformation.  It [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=194&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Wrestling with several issues and consultation with the youth pastor I help has led me, in the spirit of Jude 3, to identify some (though not all) of the propositional truths at the center of the Scriptures.   This is referred to as the <em>Bounded Set </em>theory of Christianity which has been heavily emphasized since the reformation.  It hedges, or fences, what is definitely out as far as being Christian.  Deny the resurrection, you&#8217;re still a son of Adam, but you are not a Christian. </p>
<p>Complementing the Bounded Set is a theory more emphasized recently called the <em>Centered Set</em> theory.  It allows for various stylistic components and forms of worship, and takes as its litmus test the various fruit of the Spirit, that no one will condemn.  Are you loving?  serving?  growing in patience?  etc.  It&#8217;s emphasis is on lifestyle.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, some of the contemporary and emerging church emphasies have thrown away the bonded set, or so muddied its boundaries that heresies come in unchecked leading to death.  And unfortunately, it can define love in such a way that asks whether or not we are accepting people and making them feel comfortable at the expense of truth.  A good definition of this comes from John Piper, &#8220;Relationships trump truth.&#8221; </p>
<p>We need both the Bounded and Centered Set views.  We need the proper knowledge of Chirst.  We need the proper response to Christ yielded from it, including living out a life worhty of the gospel (Phil 1) that highlights the Spirit&#8217;s transforming power in our lives.  Here are some of the Bounded Set propositions I have come to.  The essential nature of a select few may be debated, but it would be wise to view anything else with a critical eye from someone denying one of them:</p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">God</font></span></strong></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">One God- existing in three persons (Is 9:6)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Holy, perfect, sinless (Mt 5:48, Ps 24:3, Isa 6:3, Lev 19:2)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Created everything from nothing (Col 1)</font><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span></strong></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">Jesus</font></span></strong></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Always was, begotten NOT created (Col 1, John 1)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Born of the Virgin Mary (Luke 1:26-38, 2:6-7)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Substitutionary Atonement- God’s sacrifice to God for sin- Lamb of God (John 1:29)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Lived sinless (Heb 4:15)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Fully God / Fully Man (The Bible)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">The one way to God (John 14:6)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Lord / King / Master (Rom 1, et al.)<strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font size="+0"> </font></span></strong></font></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">Who is Man</font></span></strong></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">A creature created in God’s Image (Gen 1:27)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Given authority over nature (Gen 1:28-31)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Created as Male and Female- Two COMPLEMENTARY not interchangeable stewards of his creation (Gen 1:27)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Born into sin- (Rom 5:12, Ps 51:5)</font></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">Who is the Holy Spirit</font></span></strong></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">God- person of the Trinity (I Cor 12:4-6, II Cor 13:14)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">The promised counselor from Jesus to lead us in the way (Is 9:6, John 16-17)</font></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"></span></strong><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">Satan</font></span></strong></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Powerful / Personal Evil</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Father of Lies, Liar from the beginning (John 8:44)</font></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"></span></strong><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">Hell</font></span></strong></span></strong></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Hell- An eternal punishment that most of humanity will enter </font><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font></span></strong></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size:14pt;"><font face="Times New Roman">What is the Bible</font></span></strong></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Inerrant in its original manuscript (Num 23:19, Ps 12:6, Prov 30:5)</font></p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">Inspired by God (Ex 31:18, 32:6, Deut 31:24-26, Isa 30:8, John </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">14:26</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">, Isa 30:8)</span></p>
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<p>Feel free to comment or add anything on the above.  Loving Jesus for who He is.</p>
<p>Larry</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger,&#8221; (James 1:19)  is not only good advice but essential in discerning and evaluating truth claims.
Last fall, I came across the following statements by N.T. Wright in The Australian:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>&#8220;Let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger,&#8221; (James 1:19)  is not only good advice but essential in discerning and evaluating truth claims.</p>
<p>Last fall, I came across the following statements by N.T. Wright in The Australian:</p>
<p>&#8220;[N.T. Wright] An eminent theologian, an expert on the historical and biblical Jesus and a staunch believer in the resurrection, he baulks at denouncing those who are not.  </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;I have friends who I am quite sure are Christians who do not believe in the bodily resurrection,&#8217; he says carefully, citing another eminent scholar, American theologian Marcus Borg&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;Marcus Borg really does not believe Jesus Christ was bodily raised from the dead. But I know Marcus well: he loves Jesus and believes in him passionately. The philosophical and cultural world he has lived in has made it very, very difficult for him to believe in the bodily resurrection. &#8216;&#8221; (Article by Jill Rowbotham, Apr 13, 2006 <em>Not all Christians believe in the resurrection</em>)</p>
<p>I saw some bloggers immediately condemn Wright and I started to lean in that direction.  Then I started to ask questions.  What if Borg does believe in the resurrection in a spiritual sense and affirms most everything else about Jesus?  Would he be excluded as he tried passionately to follow the Jesus his philosophical and cultural worldview would not allow?  Be slow to speak&#8230;</p>
<p>Wright defends the historical Jesus and especially the resurrection voluminously, eloquently, and passionately.  He also reaches out to and engages his academic brothers of the liberal persuasion.  He challenges the liberal world to consider his Jesus.</p>
<p>But his statements are provocative.  They were the more so coming near Easter last year from a scholar who has spent decades on the first century period and historical Jesus.  And being provoked, I picked up one of Marcus Borg&#8217;s most recent books, <em>Jesus: Uncovering the Life, Teachings, and Relevance of a Religious Revolutionary.  </em>It was an uncomfortable process leading me to evaluate the skeletal system of the faith.</p>
<p>Here are several observations about the Jesus that Borg knows:</p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Not the second person of the Trinity</font><a name="_ftnref1" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn1" title="_ftnref1"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[1]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Fully man, Not God before Easter</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Not the Son of God</font><a name="_ftnref2" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn2" title="_ftnref2"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[2]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Not raised to life from the dead</font><a name="_ftnref3" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn3" title="_ftnref3"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[3]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Not born of the Virgin Mary</font><a name="_ftnref4" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn4" title="_ftnref4"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[4]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Not sinless</font><a name="_ftnref5" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn5" title="_ftnref5"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[5]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">A wisdom teacher on level with Buddha and Lao Tzu</font><a name="_ftnref6" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn6" title="_ftnref6"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[6]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">One among many ways to God</font><a name="_ftnref7" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn7" title="_ftnref7"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[7]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Not necessary to be believed in</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Jesus did not die FOR the sins of the world</font><a name="_ftnref8" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn8" title="_ftnref8"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[8]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Jesus’ crucifixion was NOT necessary</font><a name="_ftnref9" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn9" title="_ftnref9"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[9]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Jesus died for political reasons</font><a name="_ftnref10" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftn10" title="_ftnref10"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[10]</span></span></span></span></a></li>
<li class="MsoNormal">Didn&#8217;t perform miracles like changing water to wine, walking on water, etc.</li>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">In contrast to Borg’s Jesus, the testimony borne in the Scripture of Jesus is contradictory on almost every point:</font></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Always was, begotten NOT created (Col 1:15-19, John 1:1-5)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Rose from the dead (I Cor 15, Mark 16, Matthew 28, Luke 24, and John 20-21)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Born of the Virgin Mary (Luke 1:26-38, 2:6-7)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Died for the sins of the world (John 3:16) as a Substitutionary Atonement- God’s sacrifice to God for sin- Lamb of God (John 1:29, 3:14)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Lived sinless (Heb 4:15)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">The One way to God (John 14:6)</font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman">Necessary to be believed in (Rom 10:9)</font></li>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal">What is obvious is that these are two radically different pictures of Jesus and by Wright saying he has friends who don&#8217;t believe in the resurrection but he is quite sure are Christians, and then identifying Borg as one, is profoundly troubling.  There is no doubt, from his construction of Jesus and his denial of the testimony that led to the death of many of the apostles that Borg is preaching another gospel (the severity of which is highlighted in Gal 1:8). </p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal">At best, this demonstrates fuzziness as far as Wright&#8217;s understanding of the gospel.  Borg&#8217;s own <a href="http://www.westarinstitute.org/Periodicals/4R_Articles/Borg_bio/borg_bio.html">autobiographical sketch</a> identifies growing up in a traditional Lutheran community and fails to liberate him from having a cultural or philosophical worldview from which he can deny the bodily resurrection.  Wright is quite wrong about the standing of his friend.</p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoNormal">Practically, it is one thing to say Wright should not waffle on the eternal standing of his liberal friends.   It is quite another for us to do the same, being ready to have friends and family who drive us out and hate us for the name of Christ because we ourselves have a better hope (Matt 10:34-39, Luke 6:22, Heb 10:34-36). </p>
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<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn1" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref1" title="_ftn1"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[1]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman">Borg 136 “Was Jesus- the pre-Easter Jesus- God?<span>  </span>No.&#8221;<span>  </span>also Pg 321.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn2" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref2" title="_ftn2"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[2]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 135-136</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn3" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref3" title="_ftn3"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[3]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 274-276</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn4" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref4" title="_ftn4"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[4]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 60-63. </font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn5" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref5" title="_ftn5"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[5]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 120 tells us Jesus “decided to undergo, “John’s baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins,” and on pg 173 Borg entertains as an interesting possibility the notion that Jesus was the prodigal spoken of in Luke 15.</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn6" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref6" title="_ftn6"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[6]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 166</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn7" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref7" title="_ftn7"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[7]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 328</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn8" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref8" title="_ftn8"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[8]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 274 “According to the gospels, Jesus did not die for the sins of the world.<span>  </span>The language of sacrificial substitution is absent from their stories.<span>  </span>But in an important sense he was killed <em>because </em>of the sins of the world.”</font></p>
<p style="margin:0;" class="MsoFootnoteText"><a name="_ftn9" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref9" title="_ftn9"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[9]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 274 “Did Good Friday have to happen?<span>  </span>As divine necessity?<span>  </span>No.<span>  </span>As human inevitability?<span>  </span>Virtually.”</font></p>
<p><a name="_ftn10" href="http://5pointers.wordpress.com/wp-includes/js/tinymce/blank.htm#_ftnref10" title="_ftn10"><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';">[10]</span></span></span></span></a><font size="2"><font face="Times New Roman"> Ibid 274</font></font></p>
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		<title>5,000 Visitors</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometime in the past week(s) we passed 5,000 visitors.  Stats really aren&#8217;t that important to me, but I can&#8217;t speak for the others who claim to blog at this site   .   I&#8217;m guessing if they cared they would post more and try to drive the traffic up by posting on some [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=192&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Sometime in the past week(s) we passed 5,000 visitors.  Stats really aren&#8217;t that important to me, but I can&#8217;t speak for the others who claim to blog at this site <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  .   I&#8217;m guessing if they cared they would post more and try to drive the traffic up by posting on some controversial topic.  Anyways back to the stats, to be honest today was the first day in a while I checked out our blog stats.  And our traffic has been turtleishly slow recently.   This past week we averaged around 10 visit per day, while during our peak I think we would average around 35 (this is an educated guess).  Our highest day ever was 147.  I know those aren&#8217;t stellar numbers, but what I do interpret from the numbers is we&#8217;ve been slacking in our posting.  You&#8217;d think with 5 people involved in the blog we would have more posting, nudge nudge.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>We&#8217;ll I just want to confess and say that I&#8217;m a terrible blogger and slacker, but I&#8217;m still alive and kicking.  How about the other bloggers?  You there?</p>
<p>I see Mark&#8217;s still alive, sorry for bumping you brother.  Your post is much better than mine.</p>
<p>Speaking of controversy&#8230;  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobus_Arminius" title="Jacobus Arminius" target="_blank">Jacobus Arminius</a> is my Homeboy!</p>
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		<title>Shot in the arm</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are like me, you find it very easy to stop thinking and praying about reaching out with the gospel to our muslim neighbors here in the US.  I don&#8217;t like that inertia.
Grab the feed of the Crescent Project podcast and keep these necessary things in front of yourself.  Fouad Masri publishes [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=190&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>If you are like me, you find it very easy to stop thinking and praying about reaching out with the gospel to our muslim neighbors here in the US.  I don&#8217;t like that inertia.</p>
<p>Grab the feed of the <a href="http://www.crescentproject.org">Crescent Project</a> podcast and keep these necessary things in front of yourself.  Fouad Masri publishes the podcast once a month &#8211; and you know you&#8217;ve got a spare 15 minutes this month.  It&#8217;s worth it.</p>
<p>(By the way, if you&#8217;re really pumped, check out thier staff opportunities, too!)</p>
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		<title>Goin&#8217; to the chapel and we&#8217;re gonna get Married</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[   I was reading parts of Piper’s sermon last week titled, Lionhearted and Lamblike: The Christian Husband as Head, Part 2 and came across this quote talking about leadership in physical protection.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p class="MsoNormal">   I was reading parts of Piper’s <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Sermons/ByDate/2007/2022_Lionhearted_and_Lamblike_The_Christian_Husband_as_Head_Part_2/" title="The Christian Husband as Head, Part 2">sermon </a>last week titled,<em> Lionhearted and Lamblike: The Christian Husband as Head, Part 2</em><a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Sermons/ByDate/2007/2022_Lionhearted_and_Lamblike_The_Christian_Husband_as_Head_Part_2/" target="_blank"> </a>and came across this quote talking about leadership in physical protection.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> This is too obvious to need illustration—I wish. If there is a sound downstairs during the night and it might be a burglar, you don’t say to her: This is an egalitarian marriage, so it’s your turn to go check it out. I went last time.” And I mean that even if your wife has a black belt in karate. After you’ve tried, she may finish off the burglar with one good kick to the solar plexus. But you better be unconscious on the floor, or you’re no man. That’s written on your soul, brother, by God Almighty. Big or little, strong or weak, night or day, you go up against the enemy first. Woe to the husband—and woe to the nation—that send their women to fight their battles.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">   I found myself visualizing this scenario in my head, which brought out a good chuckle.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">   On a more serious note, I have thoroughly enjoyed his series on marriage even though I’m still single.<span>  </span>The series has provided great biblical truths about men, women, and marriage.<span>  </span>The world has seriously rejected and reinterpreted these biblical truths, and ashamedly I’ve done so also.<span>  </span>May my understanding of marriage come from the Bible and not from my presuppositions based on worldly, man centered knowledge.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On another note, I’m done with the preparation for my talks tomorrow and I praise God for the strength, wisdom, and perseverance to complete them.<span>  </span>I really enjoyed preparing, even though there were some rough patches.<span>  </span>Sorry for not posting any of it on the blog, I quickly realized that I wasn’t going to have time to post.<span>  </span>Lord willing, I’ll post some things from it next week.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">To God be the glory</p>
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		<title>Hebrews Participation</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ladies and Gents, as I prepare for a couple of talks I&#8217;m going to recruit your help.  Currently I&#8217;m going to base the talks off of Hebrews 3:12-14,


12 Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. 13 But exhort one another every [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=188&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p class="MsoNormal">Ladies and Gents, as I prepare for a couple of talks I&#8217;m going to recruit your help.  Currently I&#8217;m going to base the talks off of Hebrews 3:12-14,<span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;"><br />
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;">12 Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. 13 But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end.</span></p>
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<p>OK, now I want <span style="font-weight:bold;">you</span> to make some observations about this text.  Don&#8217;t be shy, give me at least 5 observations and feel free to bring in more context as well.  Different perspectives will be useful, but if no one participates, this may be the last time I ask for your help in my preparation. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Over the course of the next couple weeks I&#8217;ll post parts of the talks so you can get a flavor for what I&#8217;m going to share.  And feel free to give your two cents worth as well.  Maybe this will bring the blog back to life&#8230; <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Books:  Must Reads</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/03/08/books-must-reads/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you haven&#8217;t read &#8220;The Holiness of God&#8221; by R.C Sproul, you need to move it up on the reading list.  It has planted itself firmly in my top 5 book list.
Another book I&#8217;ve been working on for a while and almost finished is &#8220;Overcoming Sin and Temptation&#8221; by John Owen.  If you [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=187&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>If you haven&#8217;t read <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Holiness-God-R-C-Sproul/dp/0842339655" title="The Holiness of God" target="_blank"><em>&#8220;The Holiness of God&#8221;</em></a> by R.C Sproul, you need to move it up on the reading list.  It has planted itself firmly in my top 5 book list.</p>
<p>Another book I&#8217;ve been working on for a while and almost finished is <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Overcoming-Sin-Temptation-John-Owen/dp/1581346492/ref=sr_1_1/002-1540023-2358452?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1173359120&amp;sr=1-1" title="Overcoming Sin and Temptation" target="_blank"><em>&#8220;Overcoming Sin and Temptation&#8221;</em></a> by John Owen.  If you haven&#8217;t read this book or don&#8217;t plan too, you need to put down your Hardy Boys or Nancy Drew and get some meat. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>True or False</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/03/04/true-or-false/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 03:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While reading a systematic theology (of sorts) I came across the following statement, which I&#8217;d like you to comment on.  This was taken from a discussion of the church and it&#8217;s mission.  I am not concerned so much with what the quote says regarding the church, but what it says about God.  [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=186&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>While reading a systematic theology (of sorts) I came across the following statement, which I&#8217;d like you to comment on.  This was taken from a discussion of the church and it&#8217;s mission.  I am not concerned so much with what the quote says regarding the church, but what it says about God.  What do you think?  True or False? (and why!)</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;The church does not exist for itself alone any more than God has not chosen to exist for God alone.&#8221;</strong></p>
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		<title>The church for me</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/02/27/the-church-for-me/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[CEFC is a great church, God is working here, but I think it&#8217;s time for my wife and I to attend Holy Kiss Baptist Church.   
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>CEFC is a great church, God is working here, but I think it&#8217;s time for my wife and I to attend <a href="http://tominthebox.blogspot.com/2007/02/church-goes-glam-rock-to-attrack-old.html#links">Holy Kiss Baptist Church</a>.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Monergism Updated</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/monergism-updated/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monergism has a new and slick website.  It is way cooler than the old site with the same great resources.
If you&#8217;ve never been there you should check it out!
www.monergism.com 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Monergism has a new and slick website.  It is way cooler than the old site with the same great resources.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve never been there you should check it out!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.monergism.com" title="Monergism.com" target="_blank">www.monergism.com </a></p>
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		<title>Sermon Quote</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/02/12/sermon-quote/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 02:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mikeb</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My pastor preached a really good sermon on tithing this morning and quoted a sermon he gave last year in a sermon series called &#8220;Buried Treasure&#8221; (www.bethelweb.org).  Great series!  Anyway, here is a cool quote about the fine line of teaching &#8220;tithing&#8221; and its application in our Christian lives:
&#8220;If you don&#8217;t make it [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=183&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>My pastor preached a really good sermon on tithing this morning and quoted a sermon he gave last year in a sermon series called &#8220;Buried Treasure&#8221; (www.bethelweb.org).  Great series!  Anyway, here is a cool quote about the fine line of teaching &#8220;tithing&#8221; and its application in our Christian lives:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you don&#8217;t make it a rule, people who love money don&#8217;t start there.  If you make it a rule, legalists stop there.&#8221; (http://www.bethelweb.org/sermons/2006/060219.pdf)</p>
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		<title>Hear No Evil</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2007/01/26/182/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>larry5</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Can everyone who has a cell phone take it out and raise it in the air?&#8221; The MC asked. &#8220;Now, everyone who has a phone, make sure that you turn it off.&#8221; Ten minutes later I laughed, but no one could hear me. Even if every cell phone in the room was on, no one [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=182&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>&#8220;Can everyone who has a cell phone take it out and raise it in the air?&#8221; The MC asked. &#8220;Now, everyone who has a phone, make sure that you turn it off.&#8221; Ten minutes later I laughed, but no one could hear me. Even if every cell phone in the room was on, no one would hear them ringing.  The praise music was that loud.</p>
<p>The overriding theme in worship at youth retreats I have helped lead is that the louder the music, the better the worship. Now this view presupposes several things: first, that worship is only or primarily singing and not praying, pouring over God&#8217;s Word, telling people about God, or stuyding the lives, teachings, and wisdom of bygone saints. Second, this view seems to presuppose that God is honored more by a destructive decibal level than the hearts of those singing and the choice of lyrics in the songs. Now I would like to proceed carefully, because the best way to be rid of a fly is not to pound it against the wall with a sledgehammer, but to swat it with a rolled up newspaper or magazine; if I come down too hard, I find my critique of this peripheral issue doing more harm than good, all the while missing the fly.  If I miss the &#8220;fly&#8221; with the newspaper, it still stands as little more than a minor nuisance, but a nuisance nonetheless.</p>
<p>Hearing is one of those God-given faculties that, like the ability to run or speak, the gift of a wife or a child or a godly mother and father, is not given to all, but is a grace from God. It is unique and helpful to us as is seeing or tasing or smelling or touching. Now my contention is this- when the music gets too loud, I can neither hear the person next to me, nor in front of me, nor even myself.  Damage is done, permanent damage is done, to my hearing.  I, for the choice of several minutes of worship, have lessened the worship I can do later by listening to the hand of the Creator in the song of a carol of a bird or the lullaby of a cricket or the roar of a waterfall (all your breakers and your waves have rolled over me -Ps 42).</p>
<p>The other struggle I have is that when the music gets so loud, I stop thinking about singing to God and start focusing more on the singer. I can hear nothing else, and the intensity of the beat points back to the musician, and in my experience, away from God.  And does playing the music so loud that one can hear nothing else cause us to be more reflective of the words, or mindlessly repeat them as they have been burned into our brains. Would we do this with another sense?  Would it be advisable that, upon making a worship video, the graphics editor would intensify the light source of the media to watch, thereby burning our retinas?  And one may, it seems, counter that God did this very thing to Paul, focusing his eyes on Christ whom he was persecuting. Paul we are told, possibly as a result of this, struggled with very real problems with his eyes, but he never forgot how God changed his life one day to Damascus. Yet I would respond this that it was God who blinded Paul, and man did not work as an agent in that act  (excepting the prayers likey lifted up on Paul&#8217;s behalf); and secondly, Paul did not want this ailment, and we are told that many would have given their eyes to him (Gal 4:15).</p>
<p>Finally, there is a carnality at work in this that leads away from maturity in Christ, but back towards more experience with spiritual excesses.  Music and TV at home are turned to levels that keep people from talking in regular voices.  Music in cars is blasted to recreate that <em>worship feeling</em> so that people, feet away from each other, can be worlds away emotionally and otherwise.  Though there are many other factors at play, I have found the previous two to be true. </p>
<p>I maintain that raising the volume to levels similar to those of industrial machinery does damage and creates a tolerance for such noise that will detract from other worship and carry over to other environments, hampering dialogue and relationships.</p>
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		<title>A Helpful Explanation of what is meant by the “Active” and “Passive” Obedience of Christ</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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&#8220;The real use and purpose of the [Active/Passive Obedience] formula  is to emphasize the two distinct aspects of our Lord&#8217;s vicarious obedience.  The truth expressed rests upon the recognition that the law of God has both penal sanctions and positive demands.  It demands not only the full discharge of its precepts but [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=181&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;The real use and purpose of the </span><span>[Active/Passive Obedience] </span><span>formula  is to emphasize the two distinct aspects of our Lord&#8217;s vicarious obedience.<span>  </span>The truth expressed rests upon the recognition that the law of God has both penal sanctions and positive demands.<span>  </span>It demands not only the full discharge of its precepts but also the infliction of penalty for all infractions and shortcomings.<span>  </span>It is this twofold demand of the law of God which is taken into account when we speak of the active and passive obedience of Christ.<span>  </span>Christ as the vicar of his people came under the curse and condemnation due to sin and he also fulfilled the law of God in all its positive requirements.<span>  </span>In other words, he took care of the guilt of sin and perfectly fulfilled the demands of righteousness.<span>  </span>He perfectly met both the penal and the preceptive requirements of God&#8217;s law.<span>  </span>The passive obedience refers to the former and the active obedience to the latter.<span>  </span>Christ&#8217;s obedience was vicarious in the bearing of the full judgment of God upon sin, and it was vicarious in the full discharge of the demands of righteousness.<span>  </span>His obedience becomes the ground of the remission of sin and of actual justification.&#8221;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From John Murray’s <em>Redemption Accomplished and Applied</em>, pg. 21 &amp; 22.<span>  </span></p>
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		<title>On Writing Well</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My lovely wife gave me On Writing Well, by William Zinsser this Christmas.  In a desire to write well I have set about reading Zinsser&#8217;s insights.  It is my goal over the next several weeks to post on the chapters I&#8217;ve read (one per week), and you can judge the improvement of my [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=180&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Writing-Well-30th-Anniversary-Nonfiction/dp/0060891548/sr=8-2/qid=1168875197/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/104-7445708-2711101?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books"><img src="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/onwritingwell.thumbnail.jpg?w=128&#038;h=128" alt="On Writing Well" align="left" height="128" width="128" /></a>My lovely wife gave me <em>On Writing Well</em>, by William Zinsser this Christmas.<span>  </span>In a desire to write well I have set about reading Zinsser&#8217;s insights.<span>  </span>It is my goal over the next several weeks to post on the chapters I&#8217;ve read (one per week), and you can judge the improvement of my writing as I report and review.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Chapter 1: The Transaction</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Zinsser explains that the transaction between author and reader is the communication of the &#8220;humanity and warmth&#8221; of the author.<span>  </span>What is the vehicle of this transaction?<span>  </span>The language used.<span>  </span>This is startlingly obvious, and yet helpfully insightful.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> This insight comes after Zinsser explains that we write to be known.<span>  </span>I&#8217;m struck by the vanity of the writing endeavor.<span>  </span>It reveals me as selfish, but it’s true.<span>  </span>Where this vanity persists, there is also, subtly, a God-likeness.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Am I saying that we are like God by being vain?<span>  </span>Well, God is not vain, but he is the most God-focused person in the universe.<span>  </span>(How else would you understand passages like Isaiah 48:11?)<span>  </span>So, in this sense, in wanting to be known, by expressing ourselves to others, we are like God.<span>  </span>The chief difference of course is that we are creatures and not God.<span>  </span>Further, God is good to us by revealing himself to us.<span>  </span>In fact, the greatest good in the universe &#8211; knowing and delighting in God &#8211; is achieved by the revealing of God to us.<span>  </span>I&#8217;m sorry to disappoint you, but my self-revelation in this text is not your greatest good.<span>  </span>Hence, my writing teeters on vanity, while God&#8217;s writing is a blessing of the first order.<span>  </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Once again, this seems startlingly obvious, and yet insightful.<span>  </span>We bear the image of God, so of course our creative activities will be marked by a similarity to his.<span>  </span>He has written his name on his creation, and his incarnation.<span>  </span>As people made in his image, it should be expected that we would follow suit in what we make.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Zinsser’s identification of “humanity and warmth&#8221; as best communicated with &#8220;clarity and strength&#8221; in ‘writing well’ ignites two additional thoughts:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1.)<span>  </span>God&#8217;s writing (the Scripture) communicates the &#8216;divinity and life&#8217; of God to us.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2.)<span>  </span>As writers (even casual ones like me) we desire communication of the &#8220;humanity and warmth&#8221; within us.<span>  </span>What is my humanity?<span>  </span>What is the warmth of my life? Indeed, it is the Man, the Definer of Humanity, Christ Jesus.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Zinsser seeks and teaches a transaction through non-fiction writing of the personhood of the author.  Redeemed humanity bears forth Christ, the image of the invisible God.  May our writing share Christ through us, in such a transaction.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 15:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>A Bad Argument</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 04:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I&#8217;ve formulated areas of contention I have with the New Paul Perspective (NPP), I terminated one.  As St. Augustine showed me in a slightly different address, the argument was bad. My line of thought went like this, &#8220;The NPP sprung out of liberal theology; it&#8217;s original theology runs so bad as to be unorhodox; [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=177&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>As I&#8217;ve formulated areas of contention I have with the New Paul Perspective (NPP), I terminated one.  As St. Augustine showed me in a slightly different address, the argument was bad. My line of thought went like this, &#8220;The NPP sprung out of liberal theology; it&#8217;s original theology runs so bad as to be unorhodox; therefore a distilling of the material and subsequent refined NPP objective is bad because of where it came from.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/12022.htm">Augustine had a great image (Chapter 40).</a> He developed the scene- God moved on the hearts of the Egyptian people and the Israelites plundered them of their gold.  Where heathen philosophy, moralism, etc. lines up with what we know to be true, we shouldn&#8217;t just ignore it or defame it.  We should take that which we find to be true and liberate it.  In this way, the Israelites plundered the Egyptians for their gold as they left Egypt.  The gold articles and &#8220;gold philosophies&#8221; erected to serve idols and demons had no idea they would eventually go to serve the one true and living God.  And in this way, Augustine quotes Acts, &#8220;Moses was learned in ALL the wisdom of the Egyptians&#8221; (Acts 7:22). In the same way we can take the gold studies from biology, built on an evolutionary principle, and use them to understand the world and help cure diseases, etc.  We don&#8217;t just throw out the whole field because it serves a Darwinian model.</p>
<p>If the historical research done by E.P. Sanders is really that great, then it should be liberated and refined to honor the God of the Bible.  There&#8217;s an old Latin proverb that says, &#8220;There&#8217;s no book so bad that it has no value.&#8221;  Now I&#8217;d not side 100% with this quote, but see it as a challenging principle.  Therefore, I find it a bad argument to fault Wright for reading / engaging Sanders and adopting principles from his studies.  My perception is that he has done <em>enough</em> to separate them / liberate them from the agenda Sanders was serving.</p>
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		<title>Between the Lines</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 05:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#8217;t plan on this post, but it came as a reaction to an article I read two weeks ago.  The reaction came most strongly as I analyzed how I read the article.  I read it quickly and was very assuming.   
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I didn&#8217;t plan on this post, but it came as a reaction to an <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/TasteAndSee/ByDate/2006/1908_Jesus_Islam_Pharisees_and_the_New_Perspective_on_Paul/">article</a> I read two weeks ago.  The reaction came most strongly as I analyzed <em>how</em> I read the article.  I read it quickly and was very assuming.   </p>
<p>The first time I skimmed through the article and set it aside.  I understood Piper was likening the NPP folks the Pharisees of Christ&#8217;s day.  I reread the same points and same thing.  BUT THEN, as I read it again, <em>slowly</em>, I saw this was not his point in writing.  He was appealing to Romans to refute one of the main claims of the NPP; that the Jews of Christ&#8217;s days weren&#8217;t trying to work themselves into the people of God, they were already born into it and under grace.  The Judaism of Christ&#8217;s day, they say, wasn&#8217;t about moralism so much as racial distinction and being the true people of God.  One lesson I learned- READ SLOWLY and CAREFULLY, especially as the stakes and import of what is being read rises. </p>
<p>In a class I took, one student heckled another, &#8220;In the footnotes it says??  WHO READS THE FOOTNOTES??&#8221; and a couple weeks later, &#8220;Hey, I was making fun of you the other night for reading the footnotes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Carfeul, assiduous study leads to engaging the author- understanding what he did say and not purporting what he did not.  I am guilty of being sloppy and assuming in my study.  As I&#8217;ve seen it in others, I commend all the more reading less and understanding more.  My resolution is to not  pat myself on the back for volume of material conquered, but to aim more for depth and engagement with the author and material.</p>
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		<title>Spurgeon on the birth of Jesus and Christmas</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/12/22/spurgeon-on-the-birth-of-jesus-and-christmas/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are some excerpts from a sermon preached the Lord&#8217;s-Day morning December 24th, 1871
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   Joy Born at Bethlehem
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Here are some excerpts from a <a href="http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/1026.htm" title="Spurgeon Sermon" target="_blank">sermon</a> preached the Lord&#8217;s-Day morning December 24th, 1871</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" align="center"><strong>   Joy Born at Bethlehem</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> &#8220;And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.&#8221;—Luke 2:10-12.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> On the birth&#8230;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The joy which this first gospel preacher spoke of was no mean one, for he said, &#8220;I bring you good tidings&#8221;—that alone were joy: and not good tidings of joy only, but &#8220;good tidings of great joy.&#8221; Every word is emphatic, as if to show that the gospel is above all things intended to promote, and will most abundantly create the greatest possible joy in the human heart wherever it is received. Man is like a harp unstrung, and the music of his soul&#8217;s living strings is discordant, his whole nature wails with sorrow; but the son of David, that mighty harper, has come to restore the harmony of humanity, and where his gracious fingers move among the strings, the touch of the fingers of an incarnate God brings forth music sweet as that of the spheres, and melody rich as a seraph&#8217;s canticle. Would God that all men felt that divine hand.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> On Christmas&#8230;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">WE HAVE NO superstitious regard for times and seasons. Certainly we do not believe in the present ecclesiastical arrangement called Christmas: first, because we do not believe in the mass at all, but abhor it, whether it be said or sung in Latin or in English; and, secondly, because we find no Scriptural warrant whatever for observing any day as the birthday of the Saviour; and, consequently, its observance is a superstition, because not of divine authority. Superstition has fixed most positively the day of our Saviour&#8217;s birth, although there is no possibility of discovering when it occurred. Fabricius gives a catalogue of 136 different learned opinions upon the matter; and various divines invent weighty arguments for advocating a date in every month in the year. It was not till the middle of the third century that any part of the church celebrated the nativity of our Lord; and it was not till very long after the Western church had set the example, that the Eastern adopted it. Because the day is not known, therefore superstition has fixed it; while, since the day of the death of our Saviour might be determined with much certainty, therefore superstition shifts the date of its observance every year. Where is the method in the madness of the superstitious? Probably the fact is that the holy days were arranged to fit in with heathen festivals. We venture to assert, that if there be any day in the year, of which we may be pretty sure that it was not the day on which the Saviour was born, it is the twenty-fifth of December. Nevertheless since, the current of men&#8217;s thoughts is led this way just now, and I see no evil in the current itself, I shall launch the bark of our discourse upon that stream, and make use of the fact, which I shall neither justify nor condemn, by endeavoring to lead your thoughts in the same direction. Since it is lawful, and even laudable, to meditate upon the incarnation of the Lord upon any day in the year, it cannot be in the power of other men&#8217;s superstitions to render such a meditation improper for to-day. Regarding not the day, let us, nevertheless, give God thanks for the gift of his dear son.</p>
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		<title>Can I get some Cowper this morning?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Jehovah-Jesus
My song shall bless the Lord of all,
My praise shall climb to His abode;
Thee, Saviour, by that name I call,
The great Supreme, the mighty God.

Without beginning or decline,
Object of faith and not of sense;
Eternal ages saw Him shine,
He shines eternal ages hence.
As much when in the manger laid,
Almighty Ruler of the sky,
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><strong> Jehovah-Jesus</strong></p>
<p>My song shall bless the Lord of all,<br />
My praise shall climb to His abode;<br />
Thee, Saviour, by that name I call,<br />
The great Supreme, the mighty God.<br />
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<p>Without beginning or decline,<br />
Object of faith and not of sense;<br />
Eternal ages saw Him shine,<br />
He shines eternal ages hence.</p>
<p>As much when in the manger laid,<br />
Almighty Ruler of the sky,<br />
As when the six days&#8217; work He made,<br />
Fill&#8217;d all the morning stars with joy.</p>
<p>Of all the crowns Jehovah bears,<br />
Salvation is His dearest claim;<br />
That gracious sound well pleased He hears<br />
And owns Emmanuel for His name.</p>
<p>A cheerful confidence I feel,<br />
My well placed hopes with joy I see;<br />
My bosom glows with heavenly zeal,<br />
To worship Him who died for me.</p>
<p>As man He pities my complaint,<br />
His power and truth are all divine;<br />
He will not fail, He cannot faint;<br />
Salvation&#8217;s sure, and must be mine.</p>
<p>-William Cowper</p>
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		<title>Ungodly Driven Blogging</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Over the past several weeks I was intending to write some post over various issues, such as the NPP and egalitarianism.  Each post would have been a response to books I&#8217;ve been reading or a brief conversation I had with a friend.  To post about the two topics isn&#8217;t inherently wrong, but for me, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=173&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p> Over the past several weeks I was intending to write some post over various issues, such as the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Perspectives_on_Paul" title="NPP" target="_blank">NPP</a><span style="font-style:italic;"></span><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;"></span></span> and egalitarianism.  Each post would have been a response to books I&#8217;ve been reading or a brief conversation I had with a friend.  To post about the two topics isn&#8217;t inherently wrong, but for me, my heart&#8217;s intentions were driven by sin.  As I was diagramming the posts in my head (yeah I&#8217;m an internalizer ) I was noticing some common themes in my thoughts. <span id="more-173"></span></p>
<p>First, a lot of my thoughts were being based off of ungodly emotions.  What I mean by this is that my response to the two events had elements of anger and frustration as the driving force for the posts.  They wouldn&#8217;t have been full of grace, love and humility, even though the foundational premise for these posts was biblical.</p>
<p>Second, a lot of the thoughts were being directed at the persons rather than the principles of their arguments.  Pride was taken over my heart with the I&#8217;m better than you attitude.  If I went through with the two posts at that time they would have been man centered rather than gospel centered.</p>
<p>God is most gracious and I thank him for his always convicting gospel.  It&#8217;s amazing how blogging has been spiritual rewarding.  In all my reasons for taking up blogging, I never would&#8217;ve thought God would use it to reveal areas of sin in my life.</p>
<p>As I continue with blogging, hopefully more than what I&#8217;ve been doing, I think there are some (not exhausted) basic principles I should follow before I start outlining a post (And all of life for that matter).</p>
<blockquote><p> 1.  <span class="chapter-num"></span>If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. (<span class="verse-num">2) </span>Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth.  Col 3:1-2</p>
<p>2.  <span class="verse-num"></span>Put to death therefore what is earthly in you:<span class="footnote"> </span>sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. (<span class="verse-num">6) </span>On account of these the wrath of God is coming.<span class="footnote"> <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Colossians+3#f3" name="b3" title="Some manuscripts add 'upon the sons of disobedience'"></a></span><span class="verse-num">(7) </span>In these you too once walked, when you were living in them. <span class="verse-num">(8) </span>But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth.  Col 3:5-8</p>
<p>3.  <span class="verse-num"></span>Put on then, as God&#8217;s chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassion, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience, <span class="verse-num">(13) </span>bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive.  Col 3:12-13</p>
<p>4.  <span class="verse-num"></span>And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony. Col 3:14</p>
<p>5.  <span class="verse-num"></span>And let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, to which indeed you were called in one body. And be thankful. Col 3:15</p>
<p>6.  <span class="verse-num"></span>Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God.  Col 3:16</p>
<p>7.  And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.  Col 3:17</p>
<p><span class="verse-num">8.  </span>Therefore, having put away falsehood, let each one of you speak the truth with his neighbor, for we are members one of another. Eph 4:25</p>
<p>9.  <span class="verse-num"></span>Be angry and do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger, <span class="verse-num">(27) </span>and give no opportunity to the devil. <span class="verse-num">Eph 4:26-27</span><br />
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<span class="verse-num">10.  </span><span class="verse-num"></span>Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear. <span class="verse-num">Eph 4:29</span><br />
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<span class="verse-num">11.  </span><span class="verse-num"></span>Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. <span class="verse-num">Eph 4:31</span><br />
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<span class="verse-num">12.  </span>Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.  Eph 4:32</p>
<p>13.  <span class="verse-num-woc"></span><span class="woc">So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.  Matt 7:12</span></p>
<p><span class="verse-num"></span>*All references are from the ESV.</p></blockquote>
<p>I pray that our blogging will be glorifying to God!</p>
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		<title>Of the Father&#8217;s Love Begotten</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This past Lord&#8217;s Day we sang a hymn a cappella called Of the Father&#8217;s Love Begotten.  Besides being a particularly beautiful tune (in spite of my singing a cappella) and having glorious theology wonderfully phrased in english, it has an impressive history.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>This past Lord&#8217;s Day we sang a hymn <em>a cappella</em> called <em>Of the Father&#8217;s Love Begotten</em>.  Besides being a particularly beautiful tune (in spite of my singing <em>a cappella</em>) and having glorious theology wonderfully phrased in english, it has an impressive history.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading ahead for next semester in some of the courses for which I am registered.   One required text is Mark Noll&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Turning-Points-Decisive-Moments-Christianity/dp/080106211X/sr=8-1/qid=1166625945/ref=sr_1_1/104-7445708-2711101?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books"><em>Turning Points: Decisive Moments in the History of Christianity</em></a>.  Through the first quarter of the text, it is delightful &#8211; and I expect the rest to follow suit.  Regardless, the third chapter is introduced with a poem written by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurelius_Clemens_Prudentius">Aurelius Clemens Prudentius</a> of the same title as our hymn.  Clearly the hymn&#8217;s forebear is this ancient poem.  Compare the two, and consider that we&#8217;re singing the same praise that was lifted up 1600 yrs ago.<br />
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Prudentius&#8217; version, as shown in Noll:</p>
<blockquote><p>Of the Father&#8217;s love begotten<br />
Ere the worlds began to be,<br />
He is Alpha nd Omega,<br />
He the source, the ending he,<br />
Of the things that are, that have been,<br />
And that future years shall see.<br />
Evermore and evermore.</p>
<p>O that birth for ever blessed!<br />
When the Virgin, full of grace,<br />
By the Holy Ghost conceiving,<br />
Bore the Saviour of our race;<br />
And the Babe, the world&#8217;s Redeemer,<br />
First revealed his sacred face,<br />
Evermore and evermore.</p>
<p>O ye heights of heaven, adore him;<br />
Angel hosts, his praises sing;<br />
Powers, dominions bow before him,<br />
And extol our God and King;<br />
Let no tongue on earth be silent,<br />
Every voice in concert ring,<br />
Evermore and Evermore.</p></blockquote>
<p>Modern Version:</p>
<blockquote><p>Of the Father&#8217;s love begotten, ere the worlds began to be,<br />
He is Alpha and Omega, He the source, the ending He,<br />
Of the things that are, that have been,<br />
And that future years shall see, evermore and evermore!</p>
<p>This is He Whom heav&#8217;n-taught singers sang of old with one accord;<br />
Whom the Scriptures of the prophets promised in their faithful word;<br />
Now He shines, the long expected,<br />
Let creation praise its Lord, evermore and evermore!</p>
<p>O ye heights of heaven adore Him; angel hosts, His praises sing;<br />
All dominions, bow before Him, and extol our God and King!<br />
Let no tongue on earth be silent,<br />
Every voice in concert ring, evermore and evermore!</p>
<p>Christ, to Thee with God the Father, and, O Holy Ghost, to Thee,<br />
Hymn and chant with high thanksgiving, and unwearied praises be:<br />
Honor, glory, and dominion,<br />
And eternal victory, evermore and evermore!</p></blockquote>
<p>The point for which Noll used this poem was illustrating the Christological view hammered out at the council of Chalcedon.  I guess I don&#8217;t give my elders enough credit, as the sermon this week was on Colossians 2:9-10, and emphasised the (orthodox) Chalcedonian view of the hypostatic union!  Go to the sermon for 12/17/2006 <a href="http://www.communityefc.org/html/preaching/indexmp3_year2006.php">here</a>.  And you thought us Protestants paid no attention to church history&#8230; <a href="http://www.communityefc.org/html/preaching/indexmp3_year2006.php"> </a></p>
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		<title>Geomagnetic Storm</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If anyone has been keeping up with the news you would have known that a coronal mass ejection has begun hitting the earth.  So what&#8217;s the big deal?
Well, for those of you in the Northern regions of the United States this could provide a chance to see the Auroa Borealis (Northern Lights).  The further north [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=171&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>If anyone has been keeping up with the <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,236520,00.html" target="_blank" title="Geomagnetic Storm">news</a> you would have known that a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronal_mass_ejection" title="Coronal Mass Ejection" target="_blank">coronal mass ejection</a> has begun hitting the earth.  So what&#8217;s the big deal?</p>
<p>Well, for those of you in the Northern regions of the United States this could provide a chance to see the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_borealis" title="Auroa Borealis">Auroa Borealis</a> (Northern Lights).  The further north you are the better shot you have of seeing this phenomenon.  According to the forecast found on the <a href="http://www.gedds.alaska.edu/auroraforecast/" title="Geophysical Institute" target="_blank">Geophysical Institute</a> website you may be able see it overhead as far south as Minneapolis and on the horizon as far south as Chicago.  A comment from the forecaster also suggest a chance of seeing it into the middle sections of the U.S.</p>
<p>For those of us in the Lafayette, IN area the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-index" title="Kp index">Kp </a>index must be between 7 and 9 to see the auroa.  This <a href="http://sec.noaa.gov/Aurora/globeNW.html" title="Kp Map">map</a> shows the U.S. and where each Kp indexes needs to be for your area to see the lights.  To check out a short term forecast of the Kp index <a href="http://www.gedds.alaska.edu/auroraforecast/ShortTerm.asp" title="Short Term Kp Forecast">this site</a> may be useful.</p>
<p>For best chance at veiwing I would suggest to get as far away from city lights as you can.  Let me know if you see the lights?</p>
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		<title>Gifts for Guys</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A brother at church sent me this link as a gift idea for the bibliophile who appreciates fine furniture.
Also, I saw this link from JT today to CJ Mahaney&#8217;s guy gift ideas.  I think it is interesting as a window into who he is more than anything else.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>A brother at church sent me this <a href="http://www.nobodyandco.it/sito/inglese/the%20bibliochaise.html">link</a> as a gift idea for the bibliophile who appreciates fine furniture.</p>
<p>Also, I saw this <a href="girltalk.blogs.com/girltalk/2006/12/cjs_gift_ideas_.html">link</a> from <a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com">JT</a> today to CJ Mahaney&#8217;s guy gift ideas.  I think it is interesting as a window into who he is more than anything else.</p>
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		<title>Edwards Quote</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got to finish Jonathan Edwards&#8217; sermon The Excellency of Christ today.  Edwards unpacks something of the &#8220;admirable conjunction of diverse excellencies in Jesus Christ&#8221;, and goes  on to give us application to them.
Consider this juicy quote:
One design of God in the gospel is to bring us to make God the object of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=168&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I got to finish Jonathan Edwards&#8217; sermon <em>The Excellency of Christ</em> today.  Edwards unpacks something of the &#8220;admirable conjunction of diverse excellencies in Jesus Christ&#8221;, and goes  on to give us application to them.</p>
<p>Consider this juicy quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>One design of God in the gospel is to bring us to make God the object of our undivided respect, that he may engross our regard [in] every way, that watever natural inclination there is in our souls, he may be the center of it; that God may be all in all.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can read it for free <a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/edwards/sermons/files/excellency.html">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Misquoting Jesus Review</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In case you aren&#8217;t aware of it, check out the Christian Research Institute Journal webpage. The journal is producing some good stuff that we should be reading.  Consider for instance Daniel B. Wallace&#8217;s review of Misquoting Jesus by Bart Ehrman.  With all the media hype and parroting of liberal arguements against the Scriptures [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=167&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>In case you aren&#8217;t aware of it, check out the <a href="http://www.equip.org/journal/index.asp">Christian Research Institute Journal</a> webpage. The journal is producing some good stuff that we should be reading.  Consider for instance <a href="http://www.equip.org/free/JAB111.pdf">Daniel B. Wallace&#8217;s review</a> of <em>Misquoting Jesus</em> by Bart Ehrman.  With all the media hype and parroting of liberal arguements against the Scriptures today, reviews like this one are a necessary read as we share with friends, family, and neighbors.</p>
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		<title>Pastor&#8217;s Conference</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 23:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mikeb</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is anyone interested in going to Desiring God&#8217;s Pastor&#8217;s Conference?  I don&#8217;t know all the details about who is &#8220;allowed&#8221; to go but my understanding is that if you are training for Pastoral ministry, one could attend.  I am entertaining the thought given the topic!  (not that they ever disappoint)  Just a thought!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Is anyone interested in going to Desiring God&#8217;s Pastor&#8217;s Conference?  I don&#8217;t know all the details about who is &#8220;allowed&#8221; to go but my understanding is that if you are training for Pastoral ministry, one could attend.  I am entertaining the thought given the topic!  (not that they ever disappoint)  Just a thought!</p>
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		<title>Anecdotal Pair</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 20:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[2 Hilarious things to share:
First, my ten year-old brother informed me that he was joining a band:
Bro: I&#8217;m joining a band.
Me: Really!  What instrument are you playing?
Bro: The triangle.  Actually, the Electric Triangle.  [Followed by guitar distortion sounds produced from brother's mouth, alongside the striking of an "air triangle."]
&#8211;
Secondly, I&#8217;ve been growing [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=165&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>2 Hilarious things to share:</p>
<p>First, my ten year-old brother informed me that he was joining a band:</p>
<p>Bro: I&#8217;m joining a band.</p>
<p>Me: Really!  What instrument are you playing?</p>
<p>Bro: The triangle.  Actually, the <em>Electric </em>Triangle.  [Followed by guitar distortion sounds produced from brother's mouth, alongside the striking of an "air triangle."]</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>Secondly, I&#8217;ve been growing a beard.  Rather, I&#8217;ve attempted a beard for a good 6 weeks or so.  Today at work, a coworker (honestly) asked me if I was <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish">Amish</a>.   Bear in mind that I am a type of software engineer.</p>
<p>I informed her that in my cubicle I have a wooden laptop.</p>
<p>When pressed, I mentioned that I &#8220;used to be, but just wasn&#8217;t plain enough for them.&#8221;  We&#8217;ll see how far this goes.</p>
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		<title>Justifincriminating Evidence</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bryanr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe a few of you are entrenched in the NPP battle, using those Holy Ghost Machine Guns for good.  Maybe, like me, you hear a bit about it but read and understand only a little.  I have been spending some time thinking about Luke 18:9-14 in preparation for a talk.  This passage [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=164&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Maybe a few of you are entrenched in the NPP battle, using those Holy Ghost Machine Guns for good.  Maybe, like me, you hear a bit about it but read and understand only a little.  I have been spending some time thinking about Luke 18:9-14 in preparation for a talk.  This passage is one of those scary and amazing parables, depending which character you relate with.  I also recently listened to a <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Sermons/ByDate/2006/1773_This_Man_Went_Down_to_His_House_Justified/">Piper sermon</a> on it (&#8220;<em>This man went down to his house justified</em>&#8220;) .  I find his thoughts on this passage intriguing and directly relevant to NPP.</p>
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<blockquote><p>He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: 10 “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘<strong>God, I thank you</strong> that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ 13 But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ 14 <strong>I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other.</strong> For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”  <strong>Luke 18:9-14 (ESV)</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Piper argues that the Pharisee was NOT a Legalist (my previous understanding), because he is thanking God for his own &#8220;righteousness&#8221; and not seeking to earn favor with God on his own merit.  Excerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p>He is not presented as a legalist—one who tries to earn his salvation. That is not the issue. One thing is the issue: This man was morally upright. He was religiously devout. He believed God had made him so. He gave thanks for it. <strong>And that is what he looked to and trusted in for his righteousness before God—for his justification. And he was dead wrong</strong>. (emphasis added)</p></blockquote>
<p>The idea that this man rightfully thanked God for working in his life, looking to God as the means to his right living and yet went home UNJUSTIFIED (verse 14)  is fascinating, perplexing, and terrifying.  The problem is not that his morality or religion are wrong, but that these works of righteousness are insufficient for salvation and leave him condemned in the Judgement.</p>
<p>This is of coarse the problem with removing the imputation.  A problem that Piper clearly explains in the rest of the sermon.   No matter how &#8220;righteous&#8221; you are, how much &#8220;good&#8221; is in your life even by God&#8217;s provision, Justification is on the BASIS OF CHRIST ALONE!</p>
<p>The summary: <span style="font-weight:bold;">make sure you bring the right currency to the judgement</span>.  I can&#8217;t hear this message enough.  Just thought you might enjoy reading or listening to it if you have time.  I would be interested in any discussion on the implications this Pharisee&#8217;s view would have on Christian Living &#8211; What does it look like to trust in yourself?</p>
<p>Peace</p>
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		<title>Dream of Another Day</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 03:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go watch this video now.  Then go here.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Go watch <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gKV7R7RBnk">this video</a> now.  Then go <a href="http://www.serve-im.org/home">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>sanctity of marriage, nah, that&#8217;s in the past</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mikeb</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tend to read alot of news on a variety of subjects, perhaps it is a waste (especially in the case of ridiculous articles) but I want to be culturally relevant in some sense and thus I find lunacy such as this&#8230;
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,228107,00.html?sPage=fnc.foxlife/spears
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I tend to read alot of news on a variety of subjects, perhaps it is a waste (especially in the case of ridiculous articles) but I want to be culturally relevant in some sense and thus I find lunacy such as this&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,228107,00.html?sPage=fnc.foxlife/spears">http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,228107,00.html?sPage=fnc.foxlife/spears</a></p>
<p>Did you catch that?  Britney&#8217;s divorce is a good business decision AND it will allow her to return to her charitable ways.  Well in that case&#8230;it MUST be good.  As long as we can break our vows for the good of humanity we are in the clear, in fact, it may make more sense for us to do so. </p>
<p> Very, very, very sad indeed.</p>
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		<title>Attack of the &#8230; Sea Lion?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading this article, I think it could make a great movie based off of the Jaws premise.  Just picture the duh dah, duh dah, duh dah, duh dah (speed up after each phrase) then seeing a huge giant sea lion with cute whiskers staring you down as a tasty snack?  Ohh the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=160&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>After reading <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,229891,00.html" target="_blank" title="Revenge of the Sea Lion">this</a> article, I think it could make a great movie based off of the Jaws premise.  Just picture the duh dah, duh dah, duh dah, duh dah (speed up after each phrase) then seeing a huge giant sea lion with cute whiskers staring you down as a tasty snack?  Ohh the possibilites &#8230;</p>
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		<title>Sola Scriptura Seminar</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On December 1st Eric Nielsen and I are headed to St. Charles, MO for some Sola Scriptura Action with Dr. James White!  Topics to be discussed are the doctrine of &#8220;Sola Scriptura&#8221; as well as the sufficiency of Scripture in the light of some modern Roman Catholic approaches.
If you are interested in joining us, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=159&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>On December 1st <a href="http://www.agent000.com">Eric Nielsen</a> and I are headed to St. Charles, MO for some <a href="http://covenantofgracechurch.org/modules/tinycontent1/">Sola Scriptura Action</a> with <a href="http://www.aomin.org">Dr. James White</a>!  Topics to be discussed are the doctrine of &#8220;Sola Scriptura&#8221; as well as the sufficiency of Scripture in the light of some modern Roman Catholic approaches.</p>
<p>If you are interested in joining us, please contact me (mark dot 5pointers &#8216;at sign&#8217; gmail dot com) ASAP as we are arranging hotel accomodations and travel times.  The details of the seminar can be retrieved <a href="http://covenantofgracechurch.org/modules/tinycontent1/">here</a>.</p>
<p>Our current plan is to head down Friday, December 1st, during the afternoon.  We&#8217;ll be coming back in time for Sunday morning worship in Urbana.</p>
<p>Costs are solely: food, shared gas, and shared lodging.</p>
<p>Let me know if you are interested via the comments or my email address!</p>
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		<title>Social Commentary for Dummies</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all have to deal with it in the internet age: SPAM.  It&#8217;s constant, it&#8217;s annoying, and it&#8217;s frequently offensive or downright sinful.  Not only has spam changed the way we use email, it has garnered a major software industry and federal legislation.
But something that I noticed today as I went in to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=152&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2006/11/spamcans-s1.jpg" title="spamcans-s1.jpg"><img src="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2006/11/spamcans-s1.thumbnail.jpg" alt="spamcans-s1.jpg" align="left" /></a>We all have to deal with it in the internet age: SPAM.  It&#8217;s constant, it&#8217;s annoying, and it&#8217;s frequently offensive or downright sinful.  Not only has spam changed the way we use email, it has garnered a major software industry and federal legislation.<span id="more-152"></span></p>
<p>But something that I noticed today as I went in to to delete the filtered advert spam, was a new use or benefit of spam.  You see, advertisers are selling products in ways that appeal to people&#8217;s needs and desires, right?  I posit that the more clear the connection between product and benefits, the more likely a customer will purchase said product.  Not surprisingly, most spam is aimed at private desires and deep seeded needs.  The good thing about this is the window it provides to what advertisers think is the desire of the modern american heart.</p>
<p>What do people want, truly?  More money, more stuff, nicer stuff, better sex lives, US citizenship, prestige (through degrees, cars, aforementioned stuff), etc.  The constant stream of spam is a ticker-tape of the american heart.  Sadly, the barometer of human desire does not indicate a rising of affections to God.</p>
<p>Fortunately I am not bombarded with <em>Theological and Puritan Book Spam</em>, as I would probably max out our credit card in a day&#8230;  but I digress.</p>
<p>I suppose the point I&#8217;m getting at is how, if we are not tempted by the spam, we can use it as social commentary.  Advertisers are doing thier darndest to sell stuff to people, and they aim at the heart.  They are doing my work for me!  If I want to know what&#8217;s on my neighbor&#8217;s mind, I could get a clue from just looking through the spam.  And this is somehow noteworthy to me and valuable enough to share, go figure!</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
<p>After I wrote this I popped over to Amazon and looked at thier <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/ref=pd_ts_h/104-7445708-2711101">25 top selling books</a> (which updates every hour,) currently they are:</p>
<p align="center"><em>You:      On A Diet: The Owner&#8217;s Manual for Waist Management </em><br />
by Michael F. Roizen, Mehmet C. Oz</p>
<p align="center"> <em>The      God Delusion </em><br />
by Richard Dawkins</p>
<p align="center"> <em>The      Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream </em><br />
by Barack Obama</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Cross </em><br />
by James Patterson</p>
<p align="center"> <em>The      Innocent Man: Murder and Injustice in a Small Town      </em><br />
by John Grisham</p>
<p align="center"> <em>For      One More Day</em><br />
by Mitch Albom</p>
<p align="center"> <em>I Like      You: Hospitality Under the Influence </em><br />
by Amy Sedaris</p>
<p align="center"> <em>The      End (A Series of Unfortunate Events, Book 13) </em><br />
by Lemony Snicket, Brett Helquist (Illustrator)</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Joy of      Cooking: 75th Anniversary Edition &#8211; 2006 </em><br />
by Irma S. Rombauer, Marion Rombauer Becker, Ethan Becker</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Martha      Stewart&#8217;s Homekeeping Handbook: The Essential Guide to Caring for      Everything in Your</em> <em>Home</em><br />
by Martha Stewart</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Wild      Fire </em><br />
by Nelson DeMille</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Culture      Warrior </em><br />
by Bill O&#8217;Reilly</p>
<p align="center"> <em>YOU:      The Owner&#8217;s Manual: An Insider&#8217;s Guide to the Body that Will Make You      Healthier and</em> <em>Younger</em><br />
by Michael F. Roizen, Mehmet Oz</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Dear      John </em><br />
by Nicholas Sparks</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Living      Divine Relationships </em><br />
by Zhi Gang Sha</p>
<p align="center"> <em>The      Shape Shifter (Joe Leaphorn/Jim Chee Novels) </em><br />
by Tony Hillerman</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Marley      &amp; Me: Life and Love with the World&#8217;s Worst Dog </em><br />
by John Grogan</p>
<p align="center"> <em>State      of Denial:      Bush at War, Part III </em><br />
by Bob Woodward</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Nature      Girl </em><br />
by Carl Hiaasen</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Lisey&#8217;s      Story </em><br />
by Stephen King</p>
<p align="center"> <em>A      Photographer&#8217;s Life: 1990-2005 </em><br />
by Annie Leibovitz (Photographer)</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Letter      to a Christian Nation </em><br />
by Sam Harris</p>
<p align="center"> <em>America      Alone: The End of the World as We Know It </em><br />
by Mark Steyn</p>
<p align="center"> <em>Next </em><br />
by Michael Crichton</p>
<p align="center"> <em>The      World Is Flat [Updated and Expanded]: A Brief History of the Twenty-first      Century </em><br />
by Thomas L. Friedman</p>
<p>Truly a pretty depressing lot.  However, I find this to be another social barometer, if you will.  While I think the only one I&#8217;d care to read is <em>Morley and Me</em> or maybe <em>The End</em>, but what do you glean from this list?  What does this tell us about the American population?  (Assuming Amazon.com customers accurately represent the American population.)</p>
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		<title>Get Help, Get Healing</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you suffering right now?  We all are.  Purgatorio has been down for 4 days! 4 DAYS!
To help the hurting, I&#8217;m posting this link to a cached view of Purgatorio dated Nov. 6th, 2006.  I hope that this will help you manage the headaches, dizziness, boredom, fear, manic depression, fits of rage, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=158&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Are you suffering right now?  We all are.  <a href="http://purgatorio1.com">Purgatorio</a> has been down for 4 days! 4 DAYS!</p>
<p>To help the hurting, I&#8217;m posting this <a href="http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:jOw0ELaT8qUJ:purgatorio1.com/+purgatorio&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;client=firefox-a">link to a cached view of Purgatorio dated Nov. 6th, 2006.</a>  I hope that this will help you manage the headaches, dizziness, boredom, fear, manic depression, fits of rage, and panic attacks that may have afflicted you as Heinrich&#8217;s comedic genius has been absent over the last several days.</p>
<p>Do not fear little one.  Either Purgatorio will return, or a new Satirical Prophet will arise in Blogisrael.</p>
<p><em><strong>Update:</strong></em>  Speculation is rampant in many quarters that either a.) the Rapture already happened OR b.) we all have (unbeknownst to us) recieved an indefinate <em>Get Out of Purgatorio Free</em> card or c.) Marc&#8217;s server is down.  Time will tell.</p>
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		<title>On Writing</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot recently about blogging and why I blog, and the benefit(s) (if any?) gained thereby.  Today I was encouraged to find two articles spurring me in the very motive with which I began blogging, now almost a year on.
Writing.  I need practice, and the blog is an easy place [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=155&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot recently about blogging and why I blog, and the benefit(s) (if any?) gained thereby.  Today I was encouraged to find two articles spurring me in the very motive with which I began blogging, now almost a year on.</p>
<p><em>Writing</em>.  I need practice, and the blog is an easy place to do so.  Well, here are two posts that should encourage you in it; <a href="http://www.jesuscreed.org/?p=1659">here</a> and <a href="http://euangelizomai.blogspot.com/2006/11/reflection-on-scot-mcknights-recent.html">here</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Reading makes a full man; speaking makes a ready man; writing makes an exact man.&#8221; ~Francis Bacon</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Election Comfort from Daniel and Paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After feeling some discomfort with the results of this week&#8217;s election a couple of passages have provided some much needed encouragement, comfort, and truth to my heart.
  &#8220;21 He changes times and seasons;
he removes kings and sets up kings;
he gives wisdom to the wise
and knowledge to those who have understanding;
22 he reveals deep and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=153&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p class="MsoNormal">After feeling some discomfort with the results of this week&#8217;s election a couple of passages have provided some much needed encouragement, comfort, and truth to my heart.</p>
<p>  &#8220;21 He changes times and seasons;<br />
<span class="indent"></span>he removes kings and sets up kings;<br />
he gives wisdom to the wise<br />
<span class="indent"></span>and knowledge to those who have understanding;<br />
<span class="verse-num">22 </span>he reveals deep and hidden things;<br />
<span class="indent"></span>he knows what is in the darkness,<br />
<span class="indent"></span>and the light dwells with him.&#8221;<br />
Daniel 2:21-22</p>
<p>&#8220;1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. <span class="verse-num">2 </span>Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.&#8221;<br />
Romans 13:1-2</p>
<p>I am very thankful that we have a sovereign Lord!</p>
<p>Random thought that just brought about a chuckle&#8230;<br />
Who said, &#8220;Elected because I selected?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Grab Bag</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#8217;s some blogspotting and interesting stuff:

Desiring God has a &#8220;Taste and See&#8221; article up by Dr. John Piper: Why Vote If you are Disillisioned? I found it encouraging and interesting as someone who has consistantly not voted due to lack of confidence in all participants.  (I have a stellar record of inactivity &#8211; 6 [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=151&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Here&#8217;s some blogspotting and interesting stuff:</p>
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<li>Desiring God has a &#8220;Taste and See&#8221; article up by Dr. John Piper: <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/TasteAndSee/ByDate/2004/1272_Why_Vote_If_You_Are_Disillusioned/"><em>Why Vote If you are Disillisioned?</em></a> I found it encouraging and interesting as someone who has consistantly not voted due to lack of confidence in all participants.  (I have a stellar record of inactivity &#8211; 6 years of voting eligibility and Zero votes cast for anything outside of College Dorm councils&#8230;not something to be proud of.)  Yes, I am going to the polls tomorrow, and I encourage you to do so as well.  Check out this article by Piper on the matter, and if you are in IL, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_statewide_office_elections%2C_2006">this</a> might be useful too.</li>
<li>The Evangelical Textual Criticism blog interviewed Dr. Bart Ehrman <a href="http://evangelicaltextualcriticism.blogspot.com/2006/09/interview-with-bart-ehrman.html">here</a>.  Dr. James White has interacted with some of Ehrman&#8217;s material on the DL and in posts like <a href="https://www.aomin.org/index.php?itemid=1210">this one</a>.</li>
<li>Just up the road in Chicago is the University of Chicago&#8217;s Oriental Institute <a href="http://oi.uchicago.edu/OI/MUS/OI_Museum.html">Museum</a>.  Anyone interested in an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Near_East">ANE</a> fieldtrip in the next couple of months?  I&#8217;m going to try to make it up to Chicago around &#8220;New Years&#8221;, it would be a great place to rendezvous and and opportunity to learn!</li>
<li>Spring Courses are <a href="http://www.urbanaseminary.org/academic_courses_spring.html">online at UTS</a> for those who are interested.</li>
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		<title>Faith and Culture Lecture</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/11/03/faith-and-culture-lecture/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Urbana Theological Seminary&#8217;s Annual Faith and Culture Lecture is this Saturday (11/04/06) at University Baptist Church, 1300 to 1600hrs.
Pursuing Methuselah: A Theological Response to Anti-Aging Science will be presented by Assistant Professor of Theology at UTS, Todd Daly.
The lecture will be followed by a panel discussion featuring:
George Pyle, Three Hierarchs Greek Orthodox Church
Christine A Weaver, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=150&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://www.urbanaseminary.org/">Urbana Theological Seminary</a>&#8217;s Annual <em>Faith and Culture Lecture</em> is this Saturday (11/04/06) at <a href="http://www.bsfui.org/bsf_church.html">University Baptist Church</a>, 1300 to 1600hrs.</p>
<p><strong><em>Pursuing Methuselah: A Theological Response to Anti-Aging Science</em></strong> will be presented by Assistant Professor of Theology at <a href="http://www.urbanaseminary.org/">UTS</a>, Todd Daly.</p>
<p>The lecture will be followed by a panel discussion featuring:</p>
<p>George Pyle, <a href="http://www.threehierarchs.org/">Three Hierarchs Greek Orthodox Church</a></p>
<p>Christine A Weaver, Phsician and Geneticist, <a href="http://www.carle.com/">Carle Clinic Association</a></p>
<p>David Delaney, Scholar at the <a href="http://www.sjcnc.org/">Newman Institue of Catholic Thought</a></p>
<p>I hope you can come as it should be an interesting and stimulating lecture and discussion!</p>
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		<title>Reviewing Romans 6:7</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In case you missed it, or have already fogotten about it, Pastor Mike kind of shook up the whole world with his sermon on Romans 6:5-10.  I was doing a little looking at Romans 6:7, and specifically at this whole &#8220;freed&#8221; vs. &#8220;justified&#8221; translation issue.  This is critical because it really shapes our [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=149&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>In case you missed it, or have already fogotten about it, Pastor Mike kind of shook up the whole world with his sermon on Romans 6:5-10.  I was doing a little looking at Romans 6:7, and specifically at this whole &#8220;freed&#8221; vs. &#8220;justified&#8221; <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/can-i-get-another-witness/">translation issue</a>.  This is critical because it really shapes our reading of the following verses and our understanding the relationship of our hearts to sin.</p>
<p>I started with the english translations and how they render this verse.  The grossest offender that I saw was the <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans%206:7;&amp;version=51;">NLT</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>For when we died with Christ we were set free from the power of sin.</p></blockquote>
<p>As opposed  to the ESV (footnoted) translation:</p>
<blockquote><p>For one who has died has been justified from sin.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans%206:7;&amp;version=53;">Wycliffe </a>got it right though:</p>
<blockquote><p>For he that is dead [<em>to sin</em>], is justified from sin.</p></blockquote>
<p>Also of interest is the Greek used here.  Even if you don&#8217;t know anything about Greek, check out the parsed version at Zhubert.com, <a href="http://www.zhubert.com/bible?source=greek&amp;verseref=romans+6%3A7">here</a>.  Just run your mouse over the terms to get the parsing and a definition.  Of course the word is shaped by the context, but this isn&#8217;t an exegisis paper, we&#8217;re just perusing the Greek.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Pride, Impatience, and Faith</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/pride-impatience-and-faith/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>markfrench</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark Dever at the Together for the Gospel blog posted on pride being a root of impatience.
My tendency is to be patient in situations I like.  And that&#8217;s no patience!  Patience is endurance through things that challenge us, and it is rooted in humility, as surely as my impatience is rooted in pride.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Mark Dever at the Together for the Gospel blog <a href="http://blog.togetherforthegospel.org/2006/10/pride_as_impati.html">posted</a> on pride being a root of impatience.</p>
<blockquote><p>My tendency is to be patient in situations I like.  And that&#8217;s no patience!  Patience is endurance through things that challenge us, and it is rooted in humility, as surely as my impatience is rooted in pride.</p></blockquote>
<p>This reminded me of John Piper&#8217;s chapter in Future Grace  on patience.  Here&#8217;s a snapshot of Piper&#8217;s connection between faith and patience:</p>
<blockquote><p>Patience is the evidence of an inner strength&#8230;That is why Paul is praying for the Colossians.  He is asking God to empower them for the patient endurance that the Christian life requires.  But when he says that the strength of patience is &#8220;according to [God's] glorious might&#8221; he doesn&#8217;t just mean that it takes divine power to make a person patient.  He means that faith in this glorious might is the channel through which the power of patience comes.(<em>Future Grace</em> pg. 173)</p></blockquote>
<p>Things to think about as we confess our pride and plead for faith today.</p>
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		<title>Reformation Day Wrap-Up</title>
		<link>http://5pointers.wordpress.com/2006/10/31/reformation-day-wrap-up/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today is Reformation Day, and so it seems fitting to post the party pic, and link you to Jadeejf&#8217;s post on it here.  (I had always thought it was JadeElf, but it&#8217;s ejf.  I&#8217;m geekier than I thought&#8230;)  I think everyone had a good time and learned something, if not about the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=146&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>Today is Reformation Day, and so it seems fitting to post the party pic, and link you to Jadeejf&#8217;s post on it <a href="http://jadeejf.livejournal.com/666867.html" target="_blank">here</a>.  (I had always thought it was Jade<em>Elf</em>, but it&#8217;s <em>ejf</em>.  I&#8217;m geekier than I thought&#8230;)  I think everyone had a good time and learned something, if not about the reformation and Luther, than about each other &#8211; specifically Nat.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/reformationdayparty.JPG" title="Reformation Day Party"><img src="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/reformationdayparty.JPG" alt="Reformation Day Party" /></a></p>
<p>Some other cool Reformation day items are this <a href="http://www.agent000.com/item/67">post</a> by ENielsen, this <a href="http://isaiah543.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/thoughts-on-halloween/#comment-977">post</a> by Isaiah543, these <a href="http://cavman.wordpress.com/2006/10/25/reformation-sunday-justification/" target="_blank">Justification book recommendations</a>, <a href="http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/history/95theses.htm" target="_blank">the 95 theses</a>, and here&#8217;s the <a href="http://5pointers.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/reformationdayresouces_w_95theses.pdf" title="Resource Sheet and 95 Theses">Resource Sheet and 95 Theses</a> from the party if you are interested (in PDF).<br />
Finally, the trivia question we couldn&#8217;t answer, and I hope you answer in the comments is: In what language were Luther&#8217;s originally posted theses?  (German? Latin? <strike>Engligh?</strike> ah, yeah, citation requested!)  Oh, and if you think of it, what is your favorite thesis?  Mine is #62.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Political Fact Check</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t like political controversy and campaigning and all of that, but I do think this political fact check looks like something to keep at the ready in our browsers.  I think it wouldn&#8217;t be necessary if we had more robust political discourse (i.e. not just sound bite politics.)  But with all the [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=5pointers.wordpress.com&blog=403948&post=145&subd=5pointers&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I don&#8217;t like political controversy and <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6085922.stm" target="_blank">campaigning</a> and all of that, but I do think this <a href="http://factcheck.org" target="_blank">political fact check</a> looks like something to keep at the ready in our browsers.  I think it wouldn&#8217;t be necessary if we had more robust political discourse (i.e. not just sound bite politics.)  But with all the mudslinging I&#8217;ve seen in my local state senate race (yeah, <em>state</em>), this looks like a good thing to know about and check back to.</p>
<p>Also, Justin Taylor <a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2006/10/closest-thing-to-spending-hour-with.html" target="_blank">posted a link</a> to a presidential interview on foriegn policy that was very interesting.  We could have a lot of commentary on this, but I&#8217;ll see what develops.</p>
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		<title>Window on the Modern Jewish Soul</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 13:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My wife and I recently watched &#8220;Crimes and Misdemeanors&#8221;, a Woody Allen film.  Below I&#8217;ve left some things I&#8217;ve noted as they relate to God and ethics.  I found the film hilarious at times, heartbreaking at others, and insightful throughout.  Sadly, what Allen needs most, Allen misses most.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>My wife and I recently watched &#8220;Crimes and Misdemeanors&#8221;, a Woody Allen film.  Below I&#8217;ve left some things I&#8217;ve noted as they relate to God and ethics.  I found the film hilarious at times, heartbreaking at others, and insightful throughout.  Sadly, what Allen needs most, Allen misses most.</p>
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The plot alternates between two Jewish men, Woody Allen and Martin Landau playing Clifford Stern and Judah Rosenthal respectively.  Clif is a struggling, idealistic, documentary film maker while Judah is a successful, philandering, opthamalogist.  The film follows thier seperate exploits concluding with them attending the same party and a dialogue recapping Judah&#8217;s struggles &#8211; as a pitch for a new film.  Like I said, interesting and challenging, and probably due for another viewing in a few years.  So here are my random thoughts (topics marked by &#8216;~&#8217;.)</p>
<p>~One of Clif&#8217;s brothers-in-law is a rabbi who argueably has the most biblical worldview in the picture.  But he goes blind.  Is Allen saying in some hamfisted way that the rabbi is blind to reality? Is Allen saying that the rabbi is the one who really sees &#8211; showing spiritual insight through physical seperation?  I&#8217;m given to think the former, judging by the rest of the film.  Regardless, an interesting presentation.</p>
<p>~Immorality blooms in the fields of self focus and rationalization (relativism.) Incredibly Clif asks a collegue to marry him while he is struggling through the last throws of his current unhappy marriage. Everybody is meeting somebody and giving up on thier marriages it seems &#8211; aside from Judah who from self-preservation orders the murder of his mistress to keep his wife in the dark. Repeatedly throughout the film I found myself thinking: &#8220;If you didn&#8217;t have an affair in the first place, you wouldn&#8217;t be in this crisis.&#8221; The little decisions set the course for the tectonic shifts! It is not crazy then for me to think in my own life, but it is very real.  The little things matter.</p>
<p>~In the midst of Judah&#8217;s soul searching (following his realized sins), he goes to his boyhood home.  Judah then enters a conversation at a past Seder, in which his aunt stresses the relative nature of morality and the absence of god (as illustrated by the holocaust &#8211; clearly there is no justice in the world&#8230;)  The religious Rosenthal patriarch argues that even if there is no god, it is still better to pursue him and live according to his statues so that one has some moral ground to stand on.  That is, apart from a revealed diety, life is meaningless.  Allen draws out the dialogue to the point that the elder Rosenthal is forced to say &#8220;Yes, if required I will choose god over the truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Meanwhile the struggling Judah hears both sides that replay in his head from childhood.  The conversation concludes with the father stressing that the wicked will be punished.  This really looses it&#8217;s punch with Allen constantly suggesting that god is our intellectual and emotional placebo.</p>
<p>The resolution later in the film is that Judah shows he is dead to the god without, and only worships the god within.  He can live with the murder of his mistress, he is the center of the universe.  Clif laments &#8220;I don&#8217;t think anyone could live with that.&#8221;  Judah goes on living with it, claims &#8220;this is reality&#8221;, and it looks like the happily ever after.</p>
<p>~Taking in the sum of available arguements on morality and God, the film left me in the gloom of a false dichotomy between truth and God.  But the startling fact was that while Jesus&#8217; name was on everybody&#8217;s lips as an expression of surprise or dissent, no-one recognized him.  The fact that changes everything, that dominates the landscape of the discussion, is that the Son has been lifted up and illumines the truth of God, which is <em>the truth</em>. But the film presented the Jewish soul as lost between God&#8217;s denial (in the face of Holocaust induced doubt and suffering) on the one hand, and pandering to empty traditions on the other.  You&#8217;re either right and hopeless or happy and thoughtless.  This reminds me of something Tim Keller recently said at the DG conference: &#8220;The resurrection of Jesus Christ is both intellectually credible and existentially satisfying.&#8221;  Amen.</p>
<p>The answer for the athiest Jew or the &#8220;faithful&#8221; Jew is found in Christ. What the Jews have missed for a time, and (professing) athiests dismiss, and christians too quickly forget, is that Christ is risen and is Supreme in all things.</p>
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		<title>Cage Match:  Paul vs James</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[   For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.

    Romans 3:28 (ESV)
VS.
You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.
James 2:24 (ESV)


OK, which verse wins the match? Hmm&#8230; I think I&#8217;m going with&#8230;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p style="text-align:center;font-weight:bold;font-family:Arial;">   <font size="2">For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.<br />
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<p style="text-align:center;font-family:Arial;">   <font size="2"><span style="font-weight:bold;"> Romans 3:28 (ESV)</span><br />
<span style="font-weight:bold;">VS.</span><br />
<span style="font-weight:bold;">You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.<br />
James 2:24 (ESV)</span><br />
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OK, which verse wins the match? Hmm&#8230; I think I&#8217;m going with&#8230;<span id="more-143"></span></font></p>
<p><font size="2">This week with my small group at church we&#8217;re going over <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=James+2" target="blank_" title="14-26">James 2:14-26</a> . This section of James is a treasure trove that some have buried and sealed in a lack of understanding or thoughts of contradiction. Martin Luther wasn&#8217;t too keen on James as I&#8217;m sure others weren&#8217;t as well since it seems to go against Paul&#8217;s teaching. When most Christians (myself included) finish reading this section of James they are somewhat perplexed, especially if they&#8217;ve spent a lot of time in Paul&#8217;s letters, primarily Romans and Galatians. Nevertheless, Once you finish James multiple thoughts could be going through your mind, &#8220;What does he mean by faith with out works is dead&#8221; or &#8220;Is he talking a